say again?!?!?!
Hey, 737.......it's a miracle that we all survived those 59 year-olds when their 60 year-old superiors retired. Close one. Shudder to think that there are 55 year-olds in left seats, too. I'll buy a few stories from the baby boomers, but I'm sick and dam tired of hearing that the "kids" can't do it as well as they can. The generation that shouldn't "trust anyone over 30" has turned in to the generation won't relinquish control to anyone under 50.
These old guys that were flying paying pax with a couple hundred hours back in the 60s don't trust someone with thousands of hours now to do the same thing. Why is that? Once again: I don't buy the "because I'm still better than you are" routine.
you are getting bogged down in literacy and missing the spirit of the point.
the point is simply that whether you are 55 or 59 or 65, if you are being forced out while you are still sharp and solid....that is the tragedy that i am talking about. until there is a definitive way for the industry to weed out those that should retire physically and or mentally, we are sadly going to debate this while we still lose people.....again...one of those injustices that i mentioned previously.
Im sorry to also inform you that no ERAU or UND can sell you what they take with them! I bet you are sick and tired of hearing that "kids cant do it like they can" unfortunately they are right and wrong. they are right about that when talking to snot nosed brats who dont know better. their own ignorance and flat out disrespect are their biggest downfall and stand in the way of their own evolution. but there are those "kids" who do go through, catch a few lucky breaks and do arrive at the big leagues with AN OPEN EAR AND A CLOSED MOUTH. These seem to be the minority though, which is why you hear alot of what you hate to hear, and I'd bet that these kids get treated a whole lot better and best of all....get a "front row seat to the best on the job training from some of the world's best teachers" of their life!
your reference to the generation that was trusted but now doesnt trust is right on. Someone else just made a post about the reason why and it has to do with society as a whole. Unfortunately the majority of kids today ruin it for the rest by their lack of respect, discipline, and up bringing. today you hear of kids shooting each other in school, parents that think their kids are right and teachers who dont have any authority anymore. this crap didnt exist back in their day. back in their day the greatest generation, were given command of B-17's with less than 500TT and told to go bomb Germany. Their training took place among bullets and bombs. The korean, vietnam vets had their training when flight envelopes werent as defined as they are today. these guys feel that they could handle a jet better than today's pilots because when and if the automation craps out, then are left with what they learned on...a stick and rudder. that may come across as BS, and when you apply it to the masses they are right, i believe. now on an individual basis, they are wrong because i believe that there are sharp kids out there that would fly circles around these older guys with their familiarity with automation and FMS's....i mean you guys grew up with PS2 and Windows....they grew up with rocks and chutes and ladders!!! lol....
kidding aside tho......older guys should be aware that not all kids are rotten, and if you think today's behavior is BS from the (old and greedy)....you would never make it through what they had to deal with when they got started.....they flew with skygods and werent allowed to touch anything!
This is a hard time for us all, it is a rough passing of the baton and there is hurt on both sides.......it just makes it worse when people who havent been around long and can still tell you to the hour what their total time is at any given time come along and say "youve had 30 years to prepare for your retirement, im sick of this BS".....yeah, they had 30 years, but in no time were they expecting to lose 30 years worth of pension investments 2-3 years before retirement idiot!
let me speak in terms that the author of this thread can understand. He's an FO i think on some turboprop. Say you are boarding and the Captain is inside getting paperwork and you are doing your thing in the right seat. a little boy of say 10 years boards along with his mother on the way to see nana...he looks up there and says i wanna see the pilot! (doesnt politely ask, just almost demands it) he sees you, and just about as you are going to welcome him in your cockpit and show him around and take pleasure in doing so......he says to you: You're not the PILOT, youre just a copilot, I want to talk to the REAL PILOT.
Ignorance is bliss isn't it? Not so cute when his mother doesn't correct him on the spot, ....and downright disgusting when it comes from someone sharing the flight levels with you.
