Our "Team" leader out to lunch

[B19 Flyer]

Hard for most of us to believe this happened (which has led to much of the mistrust of what mgmt says) but if you told any one of us 6 years ago that this is what the company would have looked like now, we would have certainly bailed. It's hard to accept the loss after all this time and it's happened slowly so most guys just continue to hang on hoping....

It's only a coincidence that the union began organizing 6 years ago.

 

[Whoosh!]

That's a pretty pathetic response Bob. They got to be paying you better than that.

 

[AeroBoy]

It's only a coincidence that the union began organizing 6 years ago.

The union was being organized at Raytheon Travel Air before the merger with Flight Options. Ricci promised the RTA pilots that he would walk on water for them and defeated the union drive. Ricci had a hard time upholding his promises because pilot integration was tougher than he expected, and the merger mess led to his untimely departure. Then Raytheon started installing stupid CEOs who knew nothing about fractionals and degraded pilot pay and benefits, causing the union drive to gain momentum. But of course it's the pilot/union's fault that the company is going downhill, right Bob/B19?

 

[TurboHonda]

The union was being organized at Raytheon Travel Air before the merger with Flight Options. Ricci promised the RTA pilots that he would walk on water for them and defeated the union drive. Ricci had a hard time upholding his promises because pilot integration was tougher than he expected, and the merger mess led to his untimely departure. Then Raytheon started installing stupid CEOs who knew nothing about fractionals and degraded pilot pay and benefits, causing the union drive to gain momentum. But of course it's the pilot/union's fault that the company is going downhill, right Bob/B19?

It was more than just a drive. It actually was in the voting stage. The vote was a narrow defeat for the union, because of the charismatic Mr. Ricci. Had the vote gone the other way, it is doubtful that the merger would have happened at all.

One can only guess where the two company's would be today. One thing's for sure: B19 would not exist.

 

[SilverSurfer]

Another moron team leader

Well we had another moron "team" leader try and hold an impromptu management propaganda meeting in DFW this week and the response was another embarrassment to them.

Timmy Montie dropped in on the 135 recurrent class just before lunch break to answer questions if anyone had any. No one in the class stayed to see what Montie had to say, not a single pilot. :beer:

I think management may finally be getting the word that this pilot group does not give a crap about the BS management feeds the rest of the company. like the old saying says you know when management is lying when their lips are moving.

 

[B19 Flyer]

Well we had another moron "team" leader try and hold an impromptu management propaganda meeting in DFW this week and the response was another embarrassment to them.

Timmy Montie dropped in on the 135 recurrent class just before lunch break to answer questions if anyone had any. No one in the class stayed to see what Montie had to say, not a single pilot. :beer:

I think management may finally be getting the word that this pilot group does not give a crap about the BS management feeds the rest of the company. like the old saying says you know when management is lying when their lips are moving.

ROFL!!

:laugh: :laugh:

Wow, are you inexperienced in these things, aren't you?

You know and understand that they don't expect pilots at these meetings, right? Internally and privately, these things are a joke, but are a necessary evil while the union is playing their games.

Not showing up is not a stand of defiance, it is expected and the union leadership knows what is going to happen. The union leadership will make the membership THINK that they are making a stand to rile the troops up. They make it into a big deal, because it gets a reaction from the union mob.

"We showed them!" the union membership is saying, but in reality the company management knew well in advance it would be a short night, but if the meetings aren't held it will appear as though the company didn't care.

The company does care, but they also know that it's out of their hands. When it goes to mediation, the company will be able to say, "Well, we tried but nobody showed up. It's not our fault they didn't get the message. 1108 suggested a boycott."

It's not a stand of defiance, a stand of defiance would be to have an overwhelming attendance. You folks are blinded by the union light! (you need sunglasses!)

 

[skyismyoffice]

OK Bob, if management is so damn smart and really one step ahead of the game all the time as you suggest...Why wouldn't you want to just get this thing done?

Do you really think prolonging things will lead to decertification?

Was it just a fluke that after Net Jets settled their contract and the Union and the company started to work together, the company flourished?

Or maybe you don't want the company to flourish?

Please, send me your wisdom...Why are you standing by watching the company go down the toilet? Or don't you see it?

 

[Whoosh!]

B19, it's pretty obvious you get compensated in some way to be on this board with the goal of breaking up solidarity. You seem to write well (albeit the crap you post is false and/or extremely biased) and I doubt someone truly as stupid as you're trying to make yourself appear could do that.

But, do you really think you're going to make a difference? You can't/won't even prove your credibility. You hide or play games when asked direct questions about you're background. You chime in on specific events that occur at FLOPS with "facts", yet claim you have no affiliation with the company.

Seems like your posts are getting more frequent and agressive lately... are you starting to feel the heat/pressure from the bosses to accomplish your task? Any coincidence to the increasing desperateness of FLOPS management and worsening health of the company?

Should we expect a straight answer or more obscure bullsh1t commentary?

 

[nomore]

I can answer that!

Should we expect a straight answer or more obscure bullsh1t commentary?

Whoosh let me answer for "Not Bob" B-19.

YES!



N

 

[Voice Of Reason]

"We showed them!" the union membership is saying, but in reality the company management knew well in advance it would be a short night, but if the meetings aren't held it will appear as though the company didn't care.

...so WHICH side is "playing games", Bob?
When this is all said and done, though, the company you are now dedicating your entire life toward helping, is going to send YOU to the unemployment line, NOT 500 or so pilots. Gnaw on that one. I'll be here laughing as security escorts you out. YOU've done more to hurt FLOPS than ANYONE, and it gets more expensive the more they blindly let you run the show from behind the scenes. Reality will occur to even upper mgt idiots soon enough. You aren't worth all THAT.