Our "Team" leader out to lunch

[dime line]

Two years of wasted time.
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http://airlinesafety.com/Unions/UnionVictoryAtEastern.htm


The "Victory" at Eastern Airlines

January 18, 1991. A date which will live in Union Infamy. That is the day that Eastern Airlines expired, with it's last gasps of tortured breath. That is also the day that the Eastern Employee Unions declared "Victory." That is the day that they celebrate, the day they "won the war" against Frank Lorenzo.

Ernie Mailhot was a ramp worker and cleaner at Eastern Airlines and a "strike staff coordinator for International Association of Machinists Local Lodge 1018 from December 1989 to December 1990." He declared the demise of Eastern Airlines to be a "victory" for all union workers everywhere. ​

Here are some excerpts, from an article by Mr. Mailhot, which was entitled The Eastern Strike Was a Victory for Workers, copyright (c) 1991 by Pathfinder Press:

After 686 days on strike against Eastern Airlines, rank- and-file members of the International Association of Machinists (IAM) and our supporters registered the final piece of our victory against the union-busting drive of the employers when the carrier folded at midnight on January 18, 1991.​

Eastern strikers from coast to coast, from Puerto Rico to Canada, reacted by calling to congratulate each other and going out to airports to celebrate.​

The sign I think expressed our feelings the best was the one at the Miami airport that read, "We said we'd last `One day longer.' ".​

When we walked out on March 4, 1989, most of the rank and file of the IAM sensed our strength for the first time. The Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) and Local 553 of the Transport Workers Union (TWU), which organized the flight attendants, also recognized our strength and our fighting determination. They joined our picket lines. The unity we had achieved between the unions and the pilots' association greatly increased our initial strength, and, in turn, our confidence.​

The unity of the Machinists, flight attendants, and pilots in a major national strike, over a period of eight and a half months, is something that had not been seen in the airline industry before.​

Our slogan became that we would last "one day longer" than Frank Lorenzo. This meant that we would never let Eastern run a profitable airline as long as it operated with scab labor. We knew that by achieving that goal, we would help set an example for every other working person in the United States and internationally - our real family, not the "Eastern family." On April 18, 1990, in a victory for all labor, our slogan became a reality. On that day the federal government, through its bankruptcy court, removed Lorenzo from control of Eastern....​

After Lorenzo was removed, our slogan remained "One day longer," but it became "One day longer" than Eastern....​

Because of our fight at Eastern, a boss who is considering forcing his workers out on strike so he can break their union and lower their wages and benefits will think a little longer before making such a move.​

As important as that is, even more important is the impact we have had on the thinking of working people who are inspired by our fight and will come to follow our example. ​

And that is the thinking of the Kamikaze Union leaders. That is why they deliberately drop bombs on their own ships----Because it is better to destroy jobs, than it is to allow anyone to work of their own free will, without a union contract. ​

And that is why I have long said that unions do not create and protect jobs----they destroy them. The Flight Attendant and Mechanics unions at United Airlines are now poised to repeat that leap into the Dinosaur Tar Pits, and you can be assured if they do go out on strike----ensuring the total demise of United Airlines----they too will declare that they have won another "Victory for Labor."

Is it any wonder that union membership in the United States has declined from a high of about 32%, in the mid-1950s, to a low of about 8% today, in the private sector? One can only hope that the unions will keep on "winning" those kinds of victories, since the wealth, size and prosperity of the Great American Middle Class seems to keep growing and expanding in reverse correlation to that decline in union membership.​

So how did it feel to cross the picket line Bob? How did you wife feel about it? Do you feel like you did the honorable thing?

 

[1po'dpilot]

Two years of wasted time.
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http://airlinesafety.com/Unions/UnionVictoryAtEastern.htm


The "Victory" at Eastern Airlines

January 18, 1991. A date which will live in Union Infamy. That is the day that Eastern Airlines expired, with it's last gasps of tortured breath. That is also the day that the Eastern Employee Unions declared "Victory." That is the day that they celebrate, the day they "won the war" against Frank Lorenzo.

Ernie Mailhot was a ramp worker and cleaner at Eastern Airlines and a "strike staff coordinator for International Association of Machinists Local Lodge 1018 from December 1989 to December 1990." He declared the demise of Eastern Airlines to be a "victory" for all union workers everywhere. ​

Here are some excerpts, from an article by Mr. Mailhot, which was entitled The Eastern Strike Was a Victory for Workers, copyright (c) 1991 by Pathfinder Press:

After 686 days on strike against Eastern Airlines, rank- and-file members of the International Association of Machinists (IAM) and our supporters registered the final piece of our victory against the union-busting drive of the employers when the carrier folded at midnight on January 18, 1991.​

Eastern strikers from coast to coast, from Puerto Rico to Canada, reacted by calling to congratulate each other and going out to airports to celebrate.​

The sign I think expressed our feelings the best was the one at the Miami airport that read, "We said we'd last `One day longer.' ".​

When we walked out on March 4, 1989, most of the rank and file of the IAM sensed our strength for the first time. The Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) and Local 553 of the Transport Workers Union (TWU), which organized the flight attendants, also recognized our strength and our fighting determination. They joined our picket lines. The unity we had achieved between the unions and the pilots' association greatly increased our initial strength, and, in turn, our confidence.​

The unity of the Machinists, flight attendants, and pilots in a major national strike, over a period of eight and a half months, is something that had not been seen in the airline industry before.​

Our slogan became that we would last "one day longer" than Frank Lorenzo. This meant that we would never let Eastern run a profitable airline as long as it operated with scab labor. We knew that by achieving that goal, we would help set an example for every other working person in the United States and internationally - our real family, not the "Eastern family." On April 18, 1990, in a victory for all labor, our slogan became a reality. On that day the federal government, through its bankruptcy court, removed Lorenzo from control of Eastern....​

After Lorenzo was removed, our slogan remained "One day longer," but it became "One day longer" than Eastern....​

Because of our fight at Eastern, a boss who is considering forcing his workers out on strike so he can break their union and lower their wages and benefits will think a little longer before making such a move.​

As important as that is, even more important is the impact we have had on the thinking of working people who are inspired by our fight and will come to follow our example. ​

And that is the thinking of the Kamikaze Union leaders. That is why they deliberately drop bombs on their own ships----Because it is better to destroy jobs, than it is to allow anyone to work of their own free will, without a union contract. ​

And that is why I have long said that unions do not create and protect jobs----they destroy them. The Flight Attendant and Mechanics unions at United Airlines are now poised to repeat that leap into the Dinosaur Tar Pits, and you can be assured if they do go out on strike----ensuring the total demise of United Airlines----they too will declare that they have won another "Victory for Labor."​

Is it any wonder that union membership in the United States has declined from a high of about 32%, in the mid-1950s, to a low of about 8% today, in the private sector? One can only hope that the unions will keep on "winning" those kinds of victories, since the wealth, size and prosperity of the Great American Middle Class seems to keep growing and expanding in reverse correlation to that decline in union membership.​

Dear Scab,
What part of NetJets or FLOPS not being 121 dont you understand? Get it through your thick skull, they are 135, 91, 91k... How about comparing apples to apples. They dont have passengers, they have owners. To compare the 2 operations is senseless. Let's get this straight too, since you continuously fail to comprehend. 1108 is not ALPA, they are not APA they arent any of the unions you mention. For future reference using large font and bold doesnt make your statement either right or applicable. Try to come up with something relevant as opposed to pointing out the same garbage over and over again. Repetition does not your drivel true. Go enjoy youre fake 121 non union utopia and get out of here. Try using your time more productively and save the JetBlue pilots from the big bad union instead of an industry you dont work in (so you say - yeah right) and could care less about. Try to absorb that SCAB.

 

[nomore]

02-11

"M" had his meeting tonight in Dallas. There were 30 pilots and a dozen mechanics in Dallas. 2 pilots went, Jody Leverknight and Tom Parks were in attendance. What a great turnout.

 

[jetwash]

JL had to go to keep her nice training position in DAL and TP goes every month since he lives in the DAL area and can't get the former manager mindset out of his system I bet his nose is brown.

So I guess it was a Ménage à trois.


Congratulations to all the other pilots who showed unity :beer:

 

[Galaxy]

man, you called it on the other thread. 2 pilots. Spot on! End MS NOW!

 

[dime line]

"M" had his meeting tonight in Dallas. There were 30 pilots and a dozen mechanics in Dallas. 2 pilots went, Jody Leverknight and Tom Parks were in attendance. What a great turnout.

You knew she would be there, I bet there is a sceret handshake between him and her.

But that was a great turnout.

 

[B19 Flyer]

What part of NetJets or FLOPS not being 121 dont you understand? Get it through your thick skull, they are 135, 91, 91k... How about comparing apples to apples.

I've worked in 91K, 135 on demand, 135 scheduled, 121 supplemental and 121 scheduled. We all operate under 91 (that was boneheaded by you to include that one)

It is apples to apples. 135 and 91K are both under Part 119 and hold OpSpecs/Mspecs. Just like every other certificated carrier out there.

And to be even more specific, Part 135 is identical to Part 121 Supplemental, but it is for small airplanes with 30 or less seats set to a higher safety standard.

Part 91 is for everybody, so that leaves only one difference, which is the thing about 91K.

91K was developed to match up with Part 135 rules.

So, we are back to the original thought. You haven't a clue as to what you are talking about, you are ignorant, don't understand the industry and have a very thick skull in realizing that when a union member makes a statement that they would rather see the company fail than give the rest of the employees the right to having free will, the union victory will be identical to that at Eastern.

Boy, the union showed Eastern a thing or two, didn't they!

If you do what Hobbes is suggesting, then it is very much apples to apples. It doesn't make any difference what kind of company it is. Everybody loses when there is a union.

 

[B19 Flyer]

So how did it feel to cross the picket line Bob? How did you wife feel about it? Do you feel like you did the honorable thing?

Had I been able to, the answer would have been yes. Those that crossed picket lines saved Continental.

It's a lot more honorable than destroying a company from the inside which is what unions in aviation have done for decades.

But what would you know about honor?

 

[dime line]

Had I been able to, the answer would have been yes. Those that crossed picket lines saved Continental.

It's a lot more honorable than destroying a company from the inside which is what unions in aviation have done for decades.

But what would you know about honor?

I might have no honor, you don't know me, buuuutttttt I do know that you had 2 pilots in your DAL meeting tonight. Kinda makes ya go hmmmmmmmm

 

[GerryG]

Let's not let the scab hijack this thread. 2 out of 30 now thats overwhelming solidarity. Rock on Brothers!