NJA announces 1000 applications for pilot positions

[G4dude]

You don't think treating people like that is thuggery? No ne who lost their job did anything wrong. Management failed in their plans lost money and these people paid after committing themselves and doing fine work supporting us and our owners.

There should have been a pprofuse apology and kind treatment instead of what happened

Oops, I thought we were discussing current threats by management. The actions of management several years ago firing people sounds pretty brutal to me. Bad behavior by Sokol and his minions.

 

[T-1GUY]

G4 is a paid company rep hired to harass and bad mouth and create FUD. If you are familiar with B19 you are familiar with G4.

 

[G4dude]

G4 is a paid company rep hired to harass and bad mouth and create FUD. If you are familiar with B19 you are familiar with G4.

OK. Would gutshotdraw and Acaterry please tell this silly guy I am just a pilot? Sheesh.

 

[T-1GUY]

Ok B19, I mean G4. Whatever you say. I'm just a worried manager

 

[Diesel]

OK. Would gutshotdraw and Acaterry please tell this silly guy I am just a pilot? Sheesh.

I would barely call you a pilot at this point. You're showing up to fly and riding on the backs of other pilots so that you don't have to lift your head out of the foxhole.

 

[gunfyter]

I think he asks reasonable question which I try to answer.

Managements are Organized against us. Here they are scheming how not to pay pilots:

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...ddle-to-discuss-pilot-shortage-300019100.html



Remember the Adam Smith quotes I shared with you a few months ago. Its not just workers who "combine" but also employers. They are organized.

A union to me is like a Combat Formation flight. You stay in position, provide mutual support, and NEVER leave your wingman. If you break formation someone usually gets hurt.

They have hired their legal thugs and PR firms to spread FUD against us. We all have to stay in formation and support each other. We are all we have. They have $billions and will crush us if we do not stand together

 

[Diesel]

I think he asks reasonable question which I try to answer.

Managements are Organized against us. Here they are scheming how not to pay pilots:

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...ddle-to-discuss-pilot-shortage-300019100.html



Remember the Adam Smith quotes I shared with you a few months ago. Its not just workers who "combine" but also employers. They are organized.

A union to me is like a Combat Formation flight. You stay in position, provide mutual support, and NEVER leave your wingman. If you break formation someone usually gets hurt.

They have hired their legal thugs and PR firms to spread FUD against us. We all have to stay in formation and support each other. We are all we have. They have $billions and will crush us if we do not stand together

He doesn't want to hear the answer. The union will always be a big bad thug. He will continue with the job and enjoy the fruits of the labor of those around him.

He will find other like minded pilots to commiserate with and make excuses why he is right and the union is wrong.

You will never change his mind. Anyone who talks about crossing a picket line will never get it. They don't see the big picture and are just looking out to how everything affects THEM.

The good thing is I am planted in front of a computer all day on my days off with other work so I can respond to these pilots that pretend they are the authority of everything until they have to answer questions. Then all you see is them lashing out. Yet not being able to answer any question.

 

[G4dude]

He doesn't want to hear the answer. The union will always be a big bad thug. He will continue with the job and enjoy the fruits of the labor of those around him.

He will find other like minded pilots to commiserate with and make excuses why he is right and the union is wrong.

You will never change his mind. Anyone who talks about crossing a picket line will never get it. They don't see the big picture and are just looking out to how everything affects THEM.

The good thing is I am planted in front of a computer all day on my days off with other work so I can respond to these pilots that pretend they are the authority of everything until they have to answer questions. Then all you see is them lashing out. Yet not being able to answer any question.

Yep, you are a hero. And I have said repeatedly that NJASAP seems to be a pretty good organization. The only thugs are the ones who think it is fine to use intimidation to further their goals. Like you, Skippy. Sorry, I don't intimidate. I've been through too much in my life to be afraid of the goons. Its a sad thing though, I thought better of most of you.

 

[G4dude]

G4 is a paid company rep hired to harass and bad mouth and create FUD. If you are familiar with B19 you are familiar with G4.

What is FUD?

 

[G4dude]

I think he asks reasonable question which I try to answer.

Managements are Organized against us. Here they are scheming how not to pay pilots:

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...ddle-to-discuss-pilot-shortage-300019100.html



Remember the Adam Smith quotes I shared with you a few months ago. Its not just workers who "combine" but also employers. They are organized.

A union to me is like a Combat Formation flight. You stay in position, provide mutual support, and NEVER leave your wingman. If you break formation someone usually gets hurt.

They have hired their legal thugs and PR firms to spread FUD against us. We all have to stay in formation and support each other. We are all we have. They have $billions and will crush us if we do not stand together

I expect the company to pay us as little as possible. And I expect us to require as much as possible. The compromise is the resulting contract.

 

[Diesel]

What is FUD?

Yeah you're really informed.

You don't even know the most basic terms.

Your knowledge of union contracts, negotiating and union issues keep amazing me how little you actually have.

 

[Diesel]

I expect the company to pay us as little as possible. And I expect us to require as much as possible. The compromise is the resulting contract.

Again you have no experience in this. But talk like you have a clue.

Please I keep asking you to regale us with your knowledge. You continue to be lacking to the point of embarrassment.

 

[Helmsalee]

Fear, uncertainty and doubt. You are hard to believe.

 

[G4dude]

I guess if you have another viewpoint than the hooligans, you can't post here and have a good exchange of information. Which is why my buds on the V stay away.

 

[Diesel]

I guess if you have another viewpoint than the hooligans, you can't post here and have a good exchange of information. Which is why my buds on the V stay away.

Again hooligans and thugs that's all you can refer too.

You can't answer any questions.

You can't provide any information or experience.

You are not involved in the union and won't acknowledge what the company is doing.

You like to attack people personally but like your union thug comments you have no basis but are just following what you've heard with no experience.

Notice a trend here?

 

[pilotyip]

You like to attack people personally

He is not alone here

 

[ragman]

G4--a frightened mouse working up the courage to be a rat.

 

[G4dude]

Again hooligans and thugs that's all you can refer too.

You can't answer any questions.

You can't provide any information or experience.

You are not involved in the union and won't acknowledge what the company is doing.

You like to attack people personally but like your union thug comments you have no basis but are just following what you've heard with no experience.

Notice a trend here?

Who have I attacked personally? I have said anybody who believes it is ok to mistreat someone for crossing a picket line, for the rest of his career, is a thug, that is a statement of opinion about a behavior.

 

[gunfyter]

I expect the company to pay us as little as possible. And I expect us to require as much as possible. The compromise is the resulting contract.

Why. Would they pay us a compromise if people cross the line?

 

[Checks]

you guys are talking about a strike but I am under the impression wages havent even been discussed with the company. Is that because the company doesnt want an agreement unless there is concessions? Basically they arent trying to negotiate? If that is the case then why havent you all voted to strike yet? Just do it, your pay keeps getting eroded by inflation (am I correct in the fact that the payscale doesnt adjust for inflation?).

Seriously, just voting to strike would wake up management. I say you do it OR quit talking about it. 99% of the posts on this message board are about some dude named G-4 scabbing if a strike comes. Is a strike even close to happening? Why talk about it? Vote for it or stop complaining about what if's.

I am just some guy on the outside trying to figure out WTF is going to happen with you all.

Signed,

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