NJ Recalls

[jonjuan]

I don't have a dog in this fight and to a certain extent I agree with you but I think you are being a bit disingenuous. You are comparing someone who didn't bother to finish college to someone who was accepted to MIT and was in college at Purdue when the war broke out. Armstrong left college to serve in the war and then finished up when he returned and eventually earned a masters degree in aeronautical engineering. No comparison. I would argue that his success was due in a large part to his education as his most notable achievements occurred after he earned his degree. The fact is that it's the airlines sandbox and they set the rules so you can argue your point till your blue in the face, won't change a thing.

Bingo-Armstrong had the smarts and motivation to start college before he flew off carriers. Those who don't typically struggle as pilots.

 

[johnsonrod]

Spoke with a repositioning Netjets XL pilot last night on my flight. Said he was exhausted on every tour lately. Obviously the XL fleet is a workhorse fleet - are there other fleets that don't work so hard comparatively? He mentioned the Sovereign also works very hard recovering for broken Xs and G200s... Are all fleets under crewed and stretched?

BTW, when can we expect to see the new Latitude on the line? Is it basically an XL replacement? How many ordered?

 

[jetlag7]

Spoke with a repositioning Netjets XL pilot last night on my flight. Said he was exhausted on every tour lately. Obviously the XL fleet is a workhorse fleet - are there other fleets that don't work so hard comparatively? He mentioned the Sovereign also works very hard recovering for broken Xs and G200s... Are all fleets under crewed and stretched?

BTW, when can we expect to see the new Latitude on the line? Is it basically an XL replacement? How many ordered?

Just about every fleet is working their tail off..... the XL, Sovereign, and X are feeling most of the "love" while the G200 is currently the company "hangar queen."

Funny he lumped the X in with the G200... the X has had higher dispatch reliability numbers than the XL for some time now.....

The Latitude is expected to show up sometime around 2016. Presently, there are 25 firm orders with 125 options.

 

[pilotyip]

Bingo-Armstrong had the smarts and motivation to start college before he flew off carriers. Those who don't typically struggle as pilots.

Hold it you mean Armstrong gets credit for some college making him a good pilot? I thought if you didn't have a four year degree you were not capable of being accepted as a good pilot. This college degree thing on FI is an all or nothing counts thing. Although I know it has nothing to do with flying an airplane
BTW. All those Navcad pilots I flew with in the 60s had two year of college and they were all exceptional sticks. They were hired at majors without degrees

 

[rajflyboy]

I'm going to tell you what you need to hear and not what you want to hear:


Going to College has absolutely nothing to do with how well some one can fly an airplane!

 

[outerfix]

But it has everything to do with being paid well to fly an airplane. You can have fun being top gun, i'll be content providing a good lifestyle for my family.

 

[transpac]

I flew without a degree and then I flew with a degree. There didn't seem to be much difference in the before and after flying, but I did learn a couple of new words.

 

[rajflyboy]

But it has everything to do with being paid well to fly an airplane. You can have fun being top gun, i'll be content providing a good lifestyle for my family.

I know southwest pilots with no college and they are making money

 

[pilotyip]

I'm going to tell you what you need to hear and not what you want to hear:


Going to College has absolutely nothing to do with how well some one can fly an airplane!

could not agree more

 

[flagshipper]

I think all pilots should have to have a degree

 

[pilotyip]

I think all pilots should have to have a degree

I don't think all pilots should have a degree.

 

[rajflyboy]

I think all pilots should have to have a degree

Why?

Just because?

 

[Rubber Ducky]

Okay, I bought a degree, I bought a medical, I bought an FCC permit, I bought my primary training, I did not buy my astronaut license, nor have I bought a Chief Pilot position. None of this has anything to do with how well you or I fly, it's all about the awful recruiting process in this industry. The more boxes you can check, the more likely you'll be hired, the more money you will make. As for the required boxes... All required boxes should be eliminated. 1500 PIC, type rating on G550 required, but if you don't have a G650 type you can learn it. We can all do the job and I'm certain you'll all figure out where the buttons are on the equipment that hasn't been invented yet. Always check the box, BUT INVESTIGATE when your union tells you whether to check it or not... (Some of you will get that).

 

[jonjuan]

I don't think all pilots should have a degree.

Agreed. Only those at the majors, however, as the liabilities are much higher.

 

[Rubber Ducky]

That was supposed to be a round about way if getting the thread back on track.

 

[amflightpilot]

I get it RD...stupid box check. The ONLY "strong" union rep who literally begged me to check the box and move on to greener pastures was Griz. We all know what the union thought of that fella, but I didn't follow his advice. Stupid me...

 

[Some guy]

I know more educated idiots than I do smart people with a high school diploma.

 

[brokeflyer]

just lie about your education.....no one ever checks.

i have a 4 yr degree but i wrote down 2 masters degrees on my app and got the job.

no one ever checked about it.

do what you gotta do to get hired, just make sure if you lie about your college you better be the best pilot in the hangar.

 

[BuckMurdock1]

Ok---back to topic of thread; anyone know how far down list recalls are now? DOH is fine if that's easiest.

 

[av8trinabarrel]

Ok---back to topic of thread; anyone know how far down list recalls are now? DOH is fine if that's easiest.

Mid dec 07 hire it sounds like. I'm jan14/08 hoping for the next class.