New Pinnacle Management team

[MACH-TUCK]

Yeah Mach tuck I know who you are and I'm disappointed in you.

Good for you! I'm don't know who you, and Im sure I would be disappointed if I knew.

 

[i fly boxes]

The perfect crime! What's even funnier is that gumbo and the rest of the yes voter think they did a great thing and helped your career. Pukes

Doesn't bother me any, what you guys don't realize is that we are not comair, the landscape is changing. The majors will be making more money which is good, regionals will be shrinking and making less money. Do you want to make 150000 as a captain of a regional that is always one cancelled contract away from going under or do you want to make 150000 as a 4 or 5 year fo? I don't care what anyone thinks of us becuase we voted and it over, it can't be changed. All the other regionals can go ahead and fight for industry leading contracts just so the can do what we did, go to chapter 11 a year later. Is it good? No but it's the way it is now. Pinnacle will be ok for at least 7 years which gives us time to move on or wait for a delta interview if they choose to do so

 

[1.3XVso]

Doesn't bother me any, what you guys don't realize is that we are not comair, the landscape is changing. The majors will be making more money which is good, regionals will be shrinking and making less money. Do you want to make 150000 as a captain of a regional that is always one cancelled contract away from going under or do you want to make 150000 as a 4 or 5 year fo? I don't care what anyone thinks of us becuase we voted and it over, it can't be changed. All the other regionals can go ahead and fight for industry leading contracts just so the can do what we did, go to chapter 11 a year later. Is it good? No but it's the way it is now. Pinnacle will be ok for at least 7 years which gives us time to move on or wait for a delta interview if they choose to do so

That's my point what the hell are you talking about " saving time"? Delta pushed out union and the pilot group to the corner to fly bigger planes at a minimum wage.

 

[jetfueljunkey]

Doesn't bother me any, what you guys don't realize is that we are not comair, the landscape is changing. The majors will be making more money which is good, regionals will be shrinking and making less money. Do you want to make 150000 as a captain of a regional that is always one cancelled contract away from going under or do you want to make 150000 as a 4 or 5 year fo? I don't care what anyone thinks of us becuase we voted and it over, it can't be changed. All the other regionals can go ahead and fight for industry leading contracts just so the can do what we did, go to chapter 11 a year later. Is it good? No but it's the way it is now. Pinnacle will be ok for at least 7 years which gives us time to move on or wait for a delta interview if they choose to do so

Pinnacle is the sell out of the industry. you claim it was for career progression... BS! you saved the senior 380 pilots and screwed the rest of the industry by buying the votes so that POS TA would pass. You misled your own pilots by showing pay rates from another regional airlines CRJ 700 rates to show that your CRJ 900's were making more per hour on your road shows. Saying you made more than compass, well how hard is it they are only 6 years old... They only are halfway up your pay scale. You top out at 20.00 a hour less than all other 700 operators (top out pay eagle and other airlines have 20 year scale with a lot of 20 year captains.) You should have grown a set and said no thanks, have some pride in this industry and STFD! Thanks and don't ever ask for a ride on any of my flights! there is no room for sell outs!

 

[RJLoser]

Pinnacle is the sell out of the industry. you claim it was for career progression... BS! you saved the senior 380 pilots and screwed the rest of the industry by buying the votes so that POS TA would pass. You misled your own pilots by showing pay rates from another regional airlines CRJ 700 rates to show that your CRJ 900's were making more per hour on your road shows. Saying you made more than compass, well how hard is it they are only 6 years old... They only are halfway up your pay scale. You top out at 20.00 a hour less than all other 700 operators (top out pay eagle and other airlines have 20 year scale with a lot of 20 year captains.) You should have grown a set and said no thanks, have some pride in this industry and STFD! Thanks and don't ever ask for a ride on any of my flights! there is no room for sell outs!

Posted by a 12,500 hour RJ CA. Classic.

 

[1.3XVso]

Pinnacle is the sell out of the industry. you claim it was for career progression... BS! you saved the senior 380 pilots and screwed the rest of the industry by buying the votes so that POS TA would pass. You misled your own pilots by showing pay rates from another regional airlines CRJ 700 rates to show that your CRJ 900's were making more per hour on your road shows. Saying you made more than compass, well how hard is it they are only 6 years old... They only are halfway up your pay scale. You top out at 20.00 a hour less than all other 700 operators (top out pay eagle and other airlines have 20 year scale with a lot of 20 year captains.) You should have grown a set and said no thanks, have some pride in this industry and STFD! Thanks and don't ever ask for a ride on any of my flights! there is no room for sell outs!

:beer:

 

[SEVEN]

Pinnacle is the sell out of the industry. you claim it was for career progression... BS! you saved the senior 380 pilots and screwed the rest of the industry by buying the votes so that POS TA would pass. You misled your own pilots by showing pay rates from another regional airlines CRJ 700 rates to show that your CRJ 900's were making more per hour on your road shows. Saying you made more than compass, well how hard is it they are only 6 years old... They only are halfway up your pay scale. You top out at 20.00 a hour less than all other 700 operators (top out pay eagle and other airlines have 20 year scale with a lot of 20 year captains.) You should have grown a set and said no thanks, have some pride in this industry and STFD! Thanks and don't ever ask for a ride on any of my flights! there is no room for sell outs!

You are right. However, don't forget the few guys and gals that refused to vote in favor of this nonsense....we have a 15% sticker on the flight case in support of the good guys solidarity. I am truly ashamed my fellow pilots caved and didn't see the bluff for what it was. They are simply cowards!

 

[N4niner206]

You are right. However, don't forget the few guys and gals that refused to vote in favor of this nonsense....we have a 15% sticker on the flight case in support of the good guys solidarity. I am truly ashamed my fellow pilots caved and didn't see the bluff for what it was. They are simply cowards!

Great idea... how do you determine who gets the sticker? I don't wanna see 45% of Pinnacle pilots running around with a 15% sticker, now!

 

[1.3XVso]

Great idea... how do you determine who gets the sticker? I don't wanna see 45% of Pinnacle pilots running around with a 15% sticker, now!

:laugh:

 

[big shacks]

I like the 'Aquired In to Incompetence' sticker.

 

[Flyer1015]

Pinnacle is the sell out of the industry. you claim it was for career progression... BS! you saved the senior 380 pilots and screwed the rest of the industry by buying the votes so that POS TA would pass. You misled your own pilots by showing pay rates from another regional airlines CRJ 700 rates to show that your CRJ 900's were making more per hour on your road shows. Saying you made more than compass, well how hard is it they are only 6 years old... They only are halfway up your pay scale. You top out at 20.00 a hour less than all other 700 operators (top out pay eagle and other airlines have 20 year scale with a lot of 20 year captains.) You should have grown a set and said no thanks, have some pride in this industry and STFD! Thanks and don't ever ask for a ride on any of my flights! there is no room for sell outs!

What did you expect? They fell for fear/intimidation tactics. As for the yes voters, the bribe money clinched the deal. It was a known fact the CRJ-200s were all going to be parked, so 85% figured to take the money would be better than the supposed closing up shop.

 

[1.3XVso]

Great idea... how do you determine who gets the sticker? I don't wanna see 45% of Pinnacle pilots running around with a 15% sticker, now!

It shouldn't be that difficult. Mesaba pukes are proud with their chest filled with integrity and colgan are just plain clueless.

 

[1.3XVso]

what did you expect? They fell for fear/intimidation tactics. As for the yes voters, the bribe money clinched the deal. It was a known fact the crj-200s were all going to be parked, so 85% figured to take the money would be better than the supposed closing up shop.

it was never going to close shop!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[CRJ puppy]

Doesn't bother me any, what you guys don't realize is that we are not comair, the landscape is changing. The majors will be making more money which is good, regionals will be shrinking and making less money. Do you want to make 150000 as a captain of a regional that is always one cancelled contract away from going under or do you want to make 150000 as a 4 or 5 year fo? I don't care what anyone thinks of us becuase we voted and it over, it can't be changed. All the other regionals can go ahead and fight for industry leading contracts just so the can do what we did, go to chapter 11 a year later. Is it good? No but it's the way it is now. Pinnacle will be ok for at least 7 years which gives us time to move on or wait for a delta interview if they choose to do so

Dude. You've got to stop eating the mushrooms!!

 

[big shacks]

I like the breakdown regarding the signing bonus..burned once again..Alpa please don't send out emails reminding me how I got burned in seniority and the bogus I mean bonus paycheck. This place sucks !

 

[xjhawk]

I like the 'Aquired In to Incompetence' sticker.

+1

the ones who say they are hired, not acquired think we ex XJ guys would get mad but I have never been so proud to say I never thought Peanuckle was worth even applying.

 

[jynxyjericho]

I like the 'Aquired In to Incompetence' sticker.

Started by a XJ guy after seeing and speaking to a Pinnacle ATL FO with the "Hired not acquired sticker". Kind of went open season shortly after that.

My favorite was JFK yesterday when a young lady was still wearing her Mesaba wings. She said she'd be happy to wear Pinnacle wings if she was ever given one. I never got my Pinnacle wings either.

 

[Kaman]

I think the entire situation, and what it has degraded to is very, very sad. At the end of the day I hope that people can maintain their dignity, sense of humility and realize that behind every "attitude" there is a person that is probably really hurting in their own world. Trust me...I am one of them.

 

[EL10]

it was never going to close shop!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep telling yourself that if it gives you the platform to preach from. It was very close to happening.

 

[JumpersAway]

What has attrition been like over there since January? Are people still single engine taxiing and such? Just curious.