New Jetblue pay raise!

[elag777]

God, some of you people are humorless. You telling me you never laugh at or tell an off-color joke? Seriously? I am Catholic, you saying you never laughed at a joke that started with ... "So a Priest walks into a bar with a naked wiener dog under his arm..."

As for my offer, no I am not serious. I guess the elevated life forms on this planet (i.e. non-oxygen thieves) could get the sarcasm in that post. But if you don't think that someone, somewhere is using bluepilots that shouldn't, then you are truly naive. I know of at least two that don't work at jb anymore that still have access, and I wouldn't be surprised if many of the die-hard haters give their stuff out to their buds from time to time.

As for me, I challenge you to find a Bavarian Chef user name on bluepilots.

Big difference between humour and taste there Chef, maybe you should start a cooking forum on BP's? Is it is cause you cook too much with onions that makes you cry so much???:nuts:

 

[Occam's Razor]

Occam -- need vocabulary help toot sweet!

Ah...a nascent kernal of intellectualism in a tub of over-popped rube-corn.

"Facetious" works.

Go with your Thetan Force, Maverick! <-(oh, man...I'm good!)

jetBlue bashers are goobs. jetBlue cheeleaders are worse. jetBlue "tweakers" and those of us who squint at posts that irritate us (it helps to blur some of the harsh rhetoric; allowing us to focus on the meaning) seem to be coping with the issues just fine.

Continue to thwack the geniuses who've got it all figured out. Their falderal would be scary if it wasn't so amusingly lame. If management is doing things to make you happy, there's a reason. Deep Throat said "follow the money".

 

[Occam's Razor]

Big difference between humour and taste there Chef, maybe you should start a cooking forum on BP's? Is it is cause you cook too much with onions that makes you cry so much!:nuts:

"humour"?

Lose the "u", Ringo! You guys lost the war! We sing "My Country 'Tis Of Thee" instead of "God Save The Queen"!

We use our hands when we play football, drive on the correct side of the road, and think Beckham was actually pretty cool for boinking his kid's nanny.

Humor triumphs all. It realeases endorphins, calms our spirit, and often perturbs pilots who are senior to us, causing them to develop high blood-pressure...so we can move up a number! (a win-win-win!)

The Neeleman's daughter quip was too over-the-top to be serious. Therefore, it was humor. Watch R. Lee Ermey in Full Metal Jacket again and tell me if you don't think his line, "I like you! You come over to my house and f#$k my sister!" is funny.

Chill, brother! Someday, you'll close your eyes and dreamily look back on this...and plow into a parked car.

That'll be funny, too!

 

[elag777]

"humour"?

Lose the "u", Ringo! You guys lost the war! We sing "My Country 'Tis Of Thee" instead of "God Save The Queen"!

We use our hands when we play football, drive on the correct side of the road, and think Beckham was actually pretty cool for boinking his kid's nanny.

Humor triumphs all. It realeases endorphins, calms our spirit, and often perturbs pilots who are senior to us, causing them to develop high blood-pressure...so we can move up a number! (a win-win-win!)

The Neeleman's daughter quip was too over-the-top to be serious. Therefore, it was humor. Watch R. Lee Ermey in Full Metal Jacket again and tell me if you don't think his line, "I like you! You come over to my house and f#$k my sister!" is funny.

Chill, brother! Someday, you'll close your eyes and dreamily look back on this...and plow into a parked car.

That'll be funny, too!

As I hope you would agree it is the "English" language , and either is correct! depending on the side of the pond you are from! But I greatly appreciate you telling me how to spell in American!

humour (AMUSEMENT) UK, US humor Show phonetics
noun
the ability to be amused by things, the way in which people see that some things are amusing or the quality of being amusing:
He's got a great sense of humour (= he is very able to see things as amusing).
I must say I find his schoolboy (= childish) humour rather tiresome.

color Show phonetics
noun
US FOR colour Another example of you being lazy and saving ink!

The only thing I like about Beckham is his wife! And the Brits actually use their feet in football! I think it was Jude Law that did the nanny?


(from Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)

 

[Occam's Razor]

RE: "(from Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)"

When you get past the "Learner's" stage...call me!

And actually, I think Beckham and Jude Law are the same guy.

Not that it matters. Those Limey fruits wouldn't stand a chance in a NASCAR infield or a Bass Masters fishing tournament! And in 'Merica, we only drink tea when the wife forgets to buy another 2lb can of Folgers!

Humor [Note spelling used in this country] is anything that is humorous. From Stoogian masterpieces ("Larry: Curly, you can't hunt here!" Curly: Nyuk...the sign sez 'Fine for hunting"!) to the droll, waggish stylings of Triumph, the Insult Comedy Dog...to the fecular droppings of the FI.com brain trust...if it makes you laugh, it's a good thing!

Carry on.

 

[elag777]

RE: "(from Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)"

When you get past the "Learner's" stage...call me!

And actually, I think Beckham and Jude Law are the same guy.

Not that it matters. Those Limey fruits wouldn't stand a chance in a NASCAR infield or a Bass Masters fishing tournament! And in 'Merica, we only drink tea when the wife forgets to buy another 2lb can of Folgers!

Humor [Note spelling used in this country] is anything that is humorous. From Stoogian masterpieces ("Larry: Curly, you can't hunt here!" Curly: Nyuk...the sign sez 'Fine for hunting"!) to the droll, waggish stylings of Triumph, the Insult Comedy Dog...to the fecular droppings of the FI.com brain trust...if it makes you laugh, it's a good thing!

Carry on.

You must be still just learning while I am advanced!

Just as a Yank would not stand a chance in the Gloucestershire annual cheese chasing race!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6497209968924058221

 

[SoCentralRain]

"humour"?

Lose the "u", Ringo! You guys lost the war! We sing "My Country 'Tis Of Thee" instead of "God Save The Queen"!

Well now, Occam, I'd refer to the latter as a fine example of ennui in this dilapidated industry of ours--but only if performed by the Sex Pistols.

fadeout coda: "No future...no future...no future...for you!"

Perhaps this is what elag had in mind all along.

Or as Principal Skinner once said, "He embiggened that role with his cromulent performance!"

Cheers,

SCR

 

[clickclickboom]

Your sarcasm meter is broken as usual. But since you can't take the time to refute the non-sarcastic items in my post, I have devised the following:

Hey, I got a unique proposal for all those interested in jb. Since you can't get the straight skinny here on FI.com (and we all know the jb vs jb similar is getting old) then PM me and I will give you my bluepilots.com user name and password.

You can then check it out for yourself. That's as straight as it's gonna get.

Imagine chumming around with a chai latte and Longhorn in the "Cabin Cleaning" forum, or maybe you'd like to join forces with Lake Alice in the "General - You Are Not Gonna Believe Every Post is About ALPA" thread. A personal favorite is the "190s Suck, When Are We Gonna Send Them Back to Brazil" thread.

Lots of good stuff in there. Any takers?

Well you took the bait with such a simple statement!! Seriously Chef run for the PVC or PCG we could use you there instead of being the daily fluffer for oscams razor, frank lorenzo, and general lee


I like you chef i really do !!!

 

[Flyingdutchman]

Your DN daughter thing was a little tasteless IMO

give me a break

 

[Oh-ryan]

God, some of you people are humorless. You telling me you never laugh at or tell an off-color joke? Seriously? I am Catholic, you saying you never laughed at a joke that started with ... "So a Priest walks into a bar with a naked wiener dog under his arm..."

As for my offer, no I am not serious. I guess the elevated life forms on this planet (i.e. non-oxygen thieves) could get the sarcasm in that post. But if you don't think that someone, somewhere is using bluepilots that shouldn't, then you are truly naive. I know of at least two that don't work at jb anymore that still have access, and I wouldn't be surprised if many of the die-hard haters give their stuff out to their buds from time to time.

As for me, I challenge you to find a Bavarian Chef user name on bluepilots.

Chef... you need to get off of Dave's daughter. I just did.

 

[elag777]

give me a break

Where would you like it?

 

[instructordude]

Guys, ignore instructordude....he is a POS. He is a flamebait master. I

Wrong. I speak my mind.

cant tell you how many times I had to warn the guy when I was a mod.

Back when I was in Vietnam................:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Please...use the ignore feature. As for you instructor guy....you are truly a piece of work. Go back to your scab outfit

Call it what you want. I've never scabbed and never will. It does pay bills though and I can't complain, two bedroom apartment, hot chicks on the weekends, and a nice IROC. I'm happy!

 

[Mamma]

Well you took the bait with such a simple statement!! Seriously Chef run for the PVC or PCG we could use you there instead of being the daily fluffer for oscams razor, frank lorenzo, and general lee


I like you chef i really do !!!

Ignore him Chef cause we like you here! PVC? Polyvinyl chloride? What would Chef do with PVC pipe anyway and why would he run for it? Confused. PCG? What the heck is that? Protestants for the Common Good? Chef is Catholic. Confused once again.

 

[Occam's Razor]

I think they're cabin cleaning acronyms:

PVC = Primary Vacuuming Captain
PCG = Primary Cleaning Guy

 

[pipe]

I think they're cabin cleaning acronyms:

PVC = Primary Vacuuming Captain
PCG = Primary Cleaning Guy

Actually PCG applies to the FA - Primary Cleaning Gay

 

[Mamma]

I think they're cabin cleaning acronyms:

PVC = Primary Vacuuming Captain
PCG = Primary Cleaning Guy

HEY! Are you trying to be funny? We will have none of that here. Get serious or please leave! Or join a PVC or PCG...whatever that may be.

 

[instructordude]

I think they're cabin cleaning acronyms:

PVC = Primary Vacuuming Captain
PCG = Primary Cleaning Guy

Does Jetblue issue newhires a vacumm during training and if they do, are they reuired to use payroll deduction?

Which vacuums are popular> Hoover, Dyson, etc....

Do you the pilots switch on who has vacumm cleaning duties during a trip? Kinda like your leg, you do you the vacuuming when we ge there.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Well you took the bait with such a simple statement!! Seriously Chef run for the PVC or PCG we could use you there instead of being the daily fluffer for oscams razor, frank lorenzo, and general lee


I like you chef i really do !!!

Run for the PVC? You mean you voted for someone you knew or actually could distinguish from all the other nameless, faceless pilots at jb?

Run for the PCG? You mean we voted for those dudes? I guess I was sick that day.

If you really think I agree or have responded in the positive to Frank or the General, then you are proving me correct. You really don't read my posts. I have not supported those two (and many other jb bashers) on flightinfo.

Now Occam's just smart and unlike most, he gets it.

I don't care if you like me. What I care is that you come on here and refuse to acknowledge some of the facts about jb. I think everyone who wants to come here is entitled to that.

 

[8vATE]

I would luv to be at a place that eats, sleeps and breathes profits. Our operations are too inefficient to truly rock the quarterly numbers.

Reserve numbers suck, RSA calls all the time,

Thus the open houses so close together. It's turning into a direct hire process: come to the interview and if we like you, the paperwork is in order, then you may start w/i a couple of weeks.


The new pay rates are a good step, the retirement (gulp) was var nice (add a b plan and we have a winner) and from what I hear the new reserve rules will really help life for those soon to be 24 month reserve CA stints.

So some positives before we all vote for ALPA. At least we get all this stuff frozen when all(pa) hell breaks loose.

Not a bad post Bavarian...
A little light on the sarcasm... some realistic comments and no huge dark cloud hanging over your head today?

I'll add my perspective since you asked.

Fuel hedging is crapshoot.. you know that. And it costs $$$$.. I think we need to buy an office with a view of SWA's fuel hedging office and try to telescope in on their computer screen. Nobody does it better. Or is luckier.

RSA calls are not the end of the world.. its voluntary you know? Caller ID and all. I would love to see the JUNIOR ASSIGNMENTs though. That's when I start getting angry.

Yes, We all KNOW SWA rocks! No interview yet?

Why don't you get over the whole open house immediate job offer thing? Still bummed it took two years to get the interview? Thats the past man. Its supply/demand ECON 101. A LOT of airlines hire RJ/Regional guys. Its the way it USUALLY works. They even hire military jocks with no crew concept, no instrument time, no deicing experience and no Northeast corridor experience.

The 5% contribution of gross earnings is, in essence, a "B" Plan. Maybe I'm mistaken, but it sure looks like it. It also is enhanced with the profitsharing cash component and the 5% 401k match.

Lastly,
If/when we go ALPA.... EVERYTHING is on the table... we won't necessarily be guaranteed what we have. And count on a more typical 18-36 month negotiation process if things turn nasty/confrontational.

Stay happy!

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Not a bad post Bavarian...
A little light on the sarcasm... some realistic comments and no huge dark cloud hanging over your head today?

I'll add my perspective since you asked.

Fuel hedging is crapshoot.. you know that. And it costs $$$$.. I think we need to buy an office with a view of SWA's fuel hedging office and try to telescope in on their computer screen. Nobody does it better. Or is luckier.

RSA calls are not the end of the world.. its voluntary you know? Caller ID and all. I would love to see the JUNIOR ASSIGNMENTs though. That's when I start getting angry.

Yes, We all KNOW SWA rocks! No interview yet?

Why don't you get over the whole open house immediate job offer thing? Still bummed it took two years to get the interview? Thats the past man. Its supply/demand ECON 101. A LOT of airlines hire RJ/Regional guys. Its the way it USUALLY works. They even hire military jocks with no crew concept, no instrument time, no deicing experience and no Northeast corridor experience.

The 5% contribution of gross earnings is, in essence, a "B" Plan. Maybe I'm mistaken, but it sure looks like it. It also is enhanced with the profitsharing cash component and the 5% 401k match.

Lastly,
If/when we go ALPA.... EVERYTHING is on the table... we won't necessarily be guaranteed what we have. And count on a more typical 18-36 month negotiation process if things turn nasty/confrontational.

Stay happy!

I am happy, had a great day with the wife and kids.

One of the reasons I abhore you is because you pretend to know me, my background, my current situation or my experience. You never tire of throwing those barbs out there and in every case you are wrong. As usual I will not return the favor. Apparently a challenge towards jb is perceived as a challenge towards you. I think you are the one that needs to lighten up.

My timeline, since you politely asked was pretty darn quick in 2005. Two weeks after I got the ATP I put my app in at jb and a cargo company. 6 weeks after that jb called (availability to far out there). 3 weeks after that I interviewed with jb. One week later got the phase two email. 4, yes 4 weeks after that I was called with a class date. I did my jb training while still on active duty. 12 days after my jb checkride, I finally finished active duty. Definitely not two years. 5 whole weeks from interview to offer. How does that mesh with your version of reality?

I only mentioned fuel hedging because, oh I don't know -- IT'S FREAKIN' IMPORTANT. But it's not the ONLY reason why swa is successful. Only the JV team thinks that. BTW, what's the price of oil these days? Ahead of the summer driving season too.

RSAs are no big deal? Okay, not that big of a deal. But it certainly gives insight to our staffing numbers, WHICH WAS MY POINT. But that being said, it is much cheaper (for the company) to RSA than it is to upgrade captains. Not being able to fly 1000 hours is IMHO a precursor of what's to come this summer. And that should bother you. How about being able to PTO/UTO? That important to you? Not enough reserves and flying reserves to death is certainly cheaper than hiring more pilots. Or being able to keep them during and after training, if you believe the rumors about some recent attritions. You want some decent profit sharing don't you? Well than you should be angry we dumped 1000 hours, in other words, PROFIT.

Military jocks with no instrument time? Where? Deicing is tough? The Northeast corridor? Is that like "going downtown"? Ohmagod. You really need to spend a week with those forward deployed pilots and see what tough is. You been shot at? Had to shell out of an airplane? Land on a unlit postage stamp, I mean aircraft carrier at 3 am? Spend up to 6 months away from your newborn baby? Better yet, shower with shoes on for 6 months? If you don't get my jokes about the young, hair gel backpack-lugging new hires, then you aren't based in nyc. The point you are missing is what that says about the job and where the morale of this company may be headed. If we hire guys content with these benefits and pay rates, what's the incentive to raise them?

It's not a 5% B plan. But I bet a B plan is in the works. I least that's what I hear.

I put my app in at LUV only recently and turned down the cargo option (doh!) because I wasn't a fan of redeyes. My wife is starting to think I am not a fan of money. If I get called at LUV, then who knows what happens. But if I left it would be because I don't think jb is ever gonna be as big or as successful as luv. Bringing "humanity back to air travel" doesn't allow for it. And frankly, I am afraid to work 25 years at jb in anticipation of the next "big" year. Who knows. Oh that's right, YOU do.