New Emirates order....

[Flopgut]

Flopgut....what you say is absolutely true.

but

This is all the fault of the US government and NOT the fault of any foreign carrier. None of these foreign carriers are taxing US carriers at an exorbitant rate or making labor laws so it is nearly impossible to get rid of bitter employees who don't provide quality customer service. It is also the fault of the US government that the same financing options for aircraft from US manufacturers are no afforded to US airlines. I agree and I think its a travesty.

Thanks, I'm glad you understand where I'm coming from. And I'll concede these may be our last days before we go the same way as the maritime industry. But that won't happen without a fight. A real ugly fight.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Thanks, I'm glad you understand where I'm coming from. And I'll concede these may be our last days before we go the same way as the maritime industry. But that won't happen without a fight. A real ugly fight.

Doesn't really have to be that way, the industry could rise to the challenge just like the auto industry did and actually start delivering some quality service for a change, jezz....!

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Doesn't really have to be that way, the industry could rise to the challenge just like the auto industry did and actually start delivering some quality service for a change, jezz....!

So says the guy who hope then yen stays viable....ok, thanks

 

[Varmint]

So says the guy who hope then yen stays viable....ok, thanks

It doesn't matter what he thinks about the yen. He is right. The big 3 automakers had to step up to the plate to compete against Japanese automakers. Other than updating the old US fleet of aircraft, which is currently happening no thanks to government loan programs, it is the same thing that US carriers need to do to remain viable in a competitive industry. Do you not agree with that?

Incidentally, I think that the US government ought to provide financing at an ultra low interest rate AND provide significant tax breaks to any US carrier that only purchases American made aircraft.

 

[Varmint]

Is EK still planning to add the A350s or will they swap them for more A380s?

Also, when will EK begin the move to the new airport outside of Dubai?

There has been no official announcement of the A350 orders being cancelled so rumors are flying off the wall. We suspect we are not getting them.

I think moving to the new airport will have a lot to do with Expo 2020. If Dubai is picked as the host city, I believe that a move to the new airport will occur before that time. There are also rumors of all carriers except for Emirates being moved to the new airport in the near future.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

So says the guy who hope then yen stays viable....ok, thanks

First of all, my salary is in USD, second, with 1.7 trillion of US debt we ALL better hope that their currency remains viable....!

It doesn't matter what he thinks about the yen. He is right. The big 3 automakers had to step up to the plate to compete against Japanese automakers. Other than updating the old US fleet of aircraft, which is currently happening no thanks to government loan programs, it is the same thing that US carriers need to do to remain viable in a competitive industry. Do you not agree with that?

Incidentally, I think that the US government ought to provide financing at an ultra low interest rate AND provide significant tax breaks to any US carrier that only purchases American made aircraft.

Well said....! The product must improve, independently of whatever the yen does

Newer equipment is important, but a whole review of the way people are treated is in order too, a little less attitude will go a long way to climb from the 40-50 spots in the world rankings.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

It doesn't matter what he thinks about the yen. He is right. The big 3 automakers had to step up to the plate to compete against Japanese automakers. Other than updating the old US fleet of aircraft, which is currently happening no thanks to government loan programs, it is the same thing that US carriers need to do to remain viable in a competitive industry. Do you not agree with that?

Incidentally, I think that the US government ought to provide financing at an ultra low interest rate AND provide significant tax breaks to any US carrier that only purchases American made aircraft.

Dead On....good post!

 

[Flopgut]

Newer equipment is important, but a whole review of the way people are treated is in order too.

I believe the people who need to be treated better first most are the airline workers. Not the least of which is the cabin staff. Yeah, their old and not pageant winners like 90% of yours overseas. But the average US customer is quite frankly a hostile goon who thinks they bought the whole airplane for their $250 dollar ticket. I think you guys forget that fact. Additionally, with the CAL/UAL combination we have the 70 year old FA market pretty much cornered, for now. However turnover has started and the new FAs are coming from a pool of candidates who have had a real tough time in the job market. They're hungry and they want to do well. It's competitive and we're getting good people.

Now before you give me some lecture about how wonderful your airline's service is and how I'll never understand (and I'm sure you'll throw in one of your own personal experience stories of how my airline's service sucks) but skip it. Consider this: Do you remember the NWA FA that stopped the scumbag who was trying to light the fuse on his shoe? Remember they showed her outside the terminal with her hand bandaged smoking a cigarette? I'm guessing she was in at least her third decade of being a FA by the way she looked. And I would guess her chances of being hired to do the same job at Emirates or ANA would be less than a snowball's in hell. But I'd take her over one of you're beauty queens. To either rely on working together or if my family was riding a pass. Because believe it or not, you don't have to be gorgeous to do a good job. I'm sure your FAs are trained well and I'm sure you're already formulating a post explaining to me how ANA FAs have to pass both ninja and gourmand training. But skip that too, ok? Because the fact of the matter is you don't wear the bullseye. We do. You don't have to deal with what we do and truth be told, it's what you're trying to build your whole business on.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Because the fact of the matter is you don't wear the bullseye. We do. You don't have to deal with what we do and truth be told, it's what you're trying to build your whole business on.

Regrettably you didn't do any research before you posted all that nonsense, there have been three hijackings and many other attempts of ANA airplanes with people having lost their lives in the process, one of them the captain was killed.
If you think that hostile passengers is an exclusive trade of the American traveler you most definitely live a very insulated life, in all my years flying in the US, I've never had to divert because a passenger became violent and attacked a cabin attendant or other passengers, I've had to do it twice here. Airline security concerns are a world problem, not just a US problem. Now, are you seriously arguing that service is as bad as it is because security concerns?

I've said it before that people place service with the age of the cabin attendants, that is a ridiculous notion, ANA, JAL, Lusfthansa, British airways, KLM, Singapore airlines, all these companies have very senior staff as cabin attendants and as costumer service representatives, all these companies have unionized work forces but all these companies fair very well in the worlds rankings year after year.

 

[Flopgut]

Regrettably you didn't do any research before you posted all that nonsense, there have been three hijackings and many other attempts of ANA airplanes with people having lost their lives in the process, one of them the captain was killed.

You know, if that's your perspective, if that's the connection you make to our reality, then you certainly found your place in the world. You're right where you belong.