NetJets Working on CASS Approval?

[FLYLOW22]

Are you serious??!! The Coral Reef Club? That exclusive, tiny airport with the golf course on the west side? The one south of Homestead on the coast? Been there. What is the big deal with that?

In your 737?!??! Wow! You are Zeus... lightning bolts out of your arse and stuff.

What's the big deal with any airport when you go there all the time? We'll just call you the Bogota Bandit.

 

[JungleJett]

FlopGut

'83 hire

PCL

'03 hire

Maybe Flop is PCL's dad?

Hey...what is the difference between a low cost airline and a low rate airline anyway?

 

[FLYLOW22]

Are you serious??!! The Coral Reef Club? That exclusive, tiny airport with the golf course on the west side? The one south of Homestead on the coast? Been there. What is the big deal with that?

In your 737?!??! Wow! You are Zeus... lightning bolts out of your arse and stuff.

What's the big deal with any airport when you go there all the time? We'll just call you the Bogota Bandit.

You sure you've been to Coral Reef? The golf course is not on the west side when landing south. Duh... Everyone knows that!

It's on the right side. Surely you can follow my logic. The rest of your arguments make just about as much sense.

 

[FLYLOW22]

FlopGut

'83 hire

PCL

'03 hire

Maybe Flop is PCL's dad?

Hey...what is the difference between a low cost airline and a low rate airline anyway?

Um, nothing? :laugh:

 

[Flopgut]

Yeah, a Cessna. It was a cute little thing that cruised at altitudes up to 51,000 ft at .92M. It would eat your classic for lunch. I enjoyed it very much.

You ought to see the Cessna Columbus or the SST they have planned. The Cessna SST will get to Bogota before you even reach cruise in the .73M 737 Classic.

Adorable? Yup! My exact words were "cute" when I learned my next Cessna's hydraulic system. Then I looked at the pay, benes and days off and I said "BAD ASS"!!

Translators. YES! They are great. They take care of customs and other handling arrangements in the NATIVE tongue. There's no need to try and make things harder by dealing with language barriers. Too many gotchas as it is than to worry about der, die, das.

Whatever floats your boat Flop.

How come I don't hear your Cessna out flying when it's CAT3? Is that something the airplane can't do or something they don't think you're capable of?

 

[Flopgut]

In your 737?!??! Wow! You are Zeus... lightning bolts out of your arse and stuff.

What's the big deal with any airport when you go there all the time? We'll just call you the Bogota Bandit.

You sure you've been to Coral Reef? The golf course is not on the west side when landing south. Duh... Everyone knows that!

It's on the right side. Surely you can follow my logic. The rest of your arguments make just about as much sense.

Logic? No I can't follow your logic. You're comparing an airport in Florida to an airport in South America. Logic just sqwaked VFR.

 

[JungleJett]

'83 hire....nuff said.

 

[Flopgut]

In your 737?!??! Wow! You are Zeus... lightning bolts out of your arse and stuff.

What's the big deal with any airport when you go there all the time? We'll just call you the Bogota Bandit.

You sure you've been to Coral Reef? The golf course is not on the west side when landing south. Duh... Everyone knows that!

It's on the right side. Surely you can follow my logic. The rest of your arguments make just about as much sense.

Is it the one where the NIKE guy has a place? Forget it. How could any airport in Florida be that big a deal?

 

[FLYLOW22]

How come I don't hear your Cessna out flying when it's CAT3? Is that something the airplane can't do or something they don't think you're capable of?

Already covered that a few pages back. Wow. I'm gonna have to slow things down a bit for the back of the pack here.

Do you want a 10 minute time out to go catch up?

Will your classic even do a Category III? Does it really matter? How often does it really impact FLT OPS to be able to shoot a CAT II approach? Wait 20 minutes and the WX usually changes for the better when the WX is that bad. Well, not when flying into volcanic ash...

I have done them. CAT IIIb was the lowest I ever saw. Really cool and eerie seeing "George" do it all to the 60kt rollout point.

No Cessna is CAT II, or III certified. What is your point? Does that make me less of a pilot?

If so, ok. I'll be by the pool, you can fly into the volcano.

I'm more preoccupied with, "What's it pay" and "What's for lunch" and taking care of our Owners than by worrying over how Cessna Aircraft Co certifies it's aircraft under Part 25.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Logic? No I can't follow your logic. You're comparing an airport in Florida to an airport in South America. Logic just sqwaked VFR.

No. I compared an airport South of Miami with an airport in South America.

These days, what's the difference!!! (snare drum). :nuts:

 

[FLYLOW22]

'83 hire....nuff said.

I know dude. He's trying though.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Is it the one where the NIKE guy has a place? Forget it. How could any airport in Florida be that big a deal?

Awwwww, come on. Be a TIGER!!

Flagler FL was a bit of a trying one on a MVFR day, uncontrolled airfield, 15 of our jets coming and going to support a local sports event.

It's not the airport necessarily, it's the entire operation.

Again, no ATC holding our hand. More like kicking us out of the way.

 

[Flopgut]

No Cessna is CAT II, or III certified. What is your point? Does that make me less of a pilot?

You gotta ask?

 

[FLYLOW22]

You gotta ask?

I'm asking you. Are you the type that equates aircraft type and capabilities with personal worthiness?

Again, what's the pay, days off, benes?

Please, for the sake of pilot generations to come... readjust your priorities.

What's next? Who has the cooler uniform?

 

[FLYLOW22]

Well, that was fun.

Like usual... nothing accomplished during a good rodeo. Lot's of dust though.

G'Night Flop.

 

[Flopgut]

Awwwww, come on. Be a TIGER!!

Flagler FL was a bit of a trying one on a MVFR day, uncontrolled airfield, 15 of our jets coming and going to support a local sports event.

It's not the airport necessarily, it's the entire operation.

Again, no ATC holding our hand. More like kicking us out of the way.

Oh, Wait a min... Flager?! You didn't say anything about Flagler. Wow. That's a tuff one. The scariest stories are always about Flagler. I think I'm going to spit up from just thinking of the difficulty.

 

[JungleJett]

If you are required to wear a gay hat..raise your hand. :uzi:

Like clubbing baby seals....

 

[Flopgut]

I'm asking you. Are you the type that equates aircraft type and capabilities with personal worthiness?

Again, what's the pay, days off, benes?

Please, for the sake of pilot generations to come... readjust your priorities.

What's next? Who has the cooler uniform?

Yeah, you've got a cool uniform. Where did you get that getup? Do they sell any men's clothes there?

 

[Flopgut]

If you are required to wear a gay hat..raise your hand. :uzi:

Like clubbing baby seals....

Don't go there bud. We've got some weird 121 pilots but you guys lead in the gay department.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Man, got him going.

You must've hit a nerve dude.

You just never know... :nuts:

 

[lawfly]

Flopgut,

I know that about 90% of Hilton Honors Diamond members are Netjets pilots. We stay in hotels more than we airline but most NJ pilots have Elite status in multiple FF programs ... so according to the airlines ... we are Elite. I do most of my airlines on SWA, Continental, and American.

We are paying plenty of money on Full Fare one-way tickets purchased day before and day of travel.... thus leading to the SSSS TSA strip search.

Good point, gunfyter. Full fare, in the FAA pilot certification and the TSA Part 135 pilot database (over 12,500 pounds), U.S. Passport, active professional pilot for a Berkshire Hathaway company, yet an SSSS. I never had any problems with airline cabin crew (in fact, they were often nice to me), but I did have ongoing problems with the TSA recent high school grads working the screening and with some airline ticket personnel who saw the "SSSS" as deserving of bad treatment at the counter. In fact, I left NJA on account of the airlining---the very bad treatment by TSA and by some airline ticket counter personnel (but not cabin or flight deck crew). I never insisted on any special treatment, only wanted to not always or almost always be an SSSS. At NJA. the money was not enough to be treated like a suspected terrorist by TSA and by some airline ticket personnel. (The airlining can be bad enough and a stark contrast to the private jet experience without adding pat-downs and such.) And the last thing I'd want to do on my time off is get on an airliner if I'm already doing that day in day out as a frac pilot. So, to me, the airline FF miles/points meant nothing. In my opinion, crew pass should have been on the company "to do" list a long time ago. Good luck.

 

[gunfyter]

Law,

Yes. I never have any problem or give any to the airline crews. I don't understand the back and forth of this thread and wish it would just go away. Its making us look bad.

It makes sense to get CrewPass because we do not need to have the SSSS on our tickets. Its a waste of TSA's time and thus a reduction in the level of security at the airport.

 

[fischman]

How come I don't hear your Cessna out flying when it's CAT3? Is that something the airplane can't do or something they don't think you're capable of?

So does sitting in the front watching the plane land make you the just the most awesome pilot ever? Puhleez...

As Flylow said, the planes aren't certified. Nice try.

 

[fischman]

Don't bother with them, Flopgut. Let them have fun with their giant airline-hating circle-jerk. I never had a bad word to say of frac pilots before this thread, but they've certainly shown their true colors. I've never seen so much ego and condescension before in my life, and that's saying a lot for pilots.

Wait a minute.

We call your (and every other carrier's) airplanes a cesspool of disease and you get offended? Seriously?

Does the truth hurt that bad? Do you deny the planes are filthy?

 

[PCL_128]

Do you deny the planes are filthy?

Yes, I do.

 

[fischman]

Get a load of this statement. You know, I hear your QS airplanes down in South America fairly often. (usually with a 2 series number) The anxiety and semi unfamiliarity with ATC and common practice leads me to believe you've got little real concept of the terrain your flying over. I wonder if your owners realize that? I don't have to wonder if your company trains special airports like mine does because I know you don't. Highest level of reliability my a$$.

Yes. The charts and EGPWS are soooo confusing.

Grasping for straws???

 

[fischman]

I have never publicly discussed negotiating tactics or practices. I will not start now.

As FLYLOW said, what is written and what is practiced may be two different things.

Our dispute was with the company, NOT the passengers, owners or cardholders. Recognizing that the owners/cardholders are paying big bucks for our service, I have always treated them with the best "service excellence" I could. Without them, there is no job.

I don't know what you're asking from the last paragraph.

Total BS. You cornholed the customers and you know it. And it would have gotten worse until you got what you wanted.

Can't understand what? Simple english? It's a statement. You are a lesser pilot advocate than the non pilot you fly around. You can't tolerate from others what is in fact the exact behavior you display yourself. You are the lowest form of pilot there is.

It is not BS. To say we disrespected the owners demonstrates your misunderstanding of a situation you weren't a part of. Every NetJets pilot on these boards is saying the same thing. What does that tell you?

 

[JungleJett]

So are we getting the jumpseat or not?

 

[Flopgut]

Yes. The charts and EGPWS are soooo confusing.

Grasping for straws???

Dude, EGPWS is not something you navigate with !!

I'm shocked. This is not even funny.

 

[JungleJett]

Hey Flop...did you guys have GPWS in 1983 when you were "hired"?