CA1900
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Ever been through PHL?.
More than I care to remember.
Thugs on tugs!! :laugh:
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Ever been through PHL?.
It's what got Obama elected...Hey, that guy is rich, why can't I be rich too?!!!He is another prime example of the success of class warfare. It used to be the American dream to achieve success. Now anyone who does is evil, and needs their success redistributed.
Clinton had less experience than Palin. And Bush couldn't do anything these past few years without the help of the democrat controlled congress, so stop it. Besides, we are still the most obese country in the civilized world so things must not be THAT bad.As a guy from ACA myself I try to cut you slack...
But come on! That gimmie attitude may exist in
America but in no greater numbers than the screw you attitude. It's not "what got Obama" elected.
Obama got elected because people are fed up with Bush. It was the classic "throw the bums out" mentality. Plus the Republicans did themselves no favors by putting a dim geezer with his hotty on the ticket to oppose him. Even if I didn't want to vote for Obama I HAD to to keep Palin out of the big seat.
Not sure what you're trying to say, but I will tell you to reread my prior postings. I have done the 121 thing and now 91K. Have you done both? If yes, then with which 91K did you fly with?
There is a higher standard to the pax in the back in 91K. It doesn't matter if it was prior to the 2005 contract or the CBA of 2007; we the group provided the level of service the owner deserved. There was never any beef with the owner. Unlike the airline industry; we don't bite the hand that feeds us.
And boy did the crews today on my two airline segments NOT care.Caring doesn't clean the plane.
I really don't understand pal. Your boy said I get to plan all my flights 30 days in advance. I explained that wasn't true and spoke directly to an actual trip I had just done where I had to push in 3 hours. I don't give a flip what you do with the plane you fly and invite you to STHU as well. Feel free not to care about where I go. K?
Part 121 doesn't bite the hands that feeds them, but the volume and types of clientele are a little bit different than what you deal with. You're right, they don't bite the hand they just consume the whole body and mind now days. We all know the level of service has decreased over the years. This has happened from the ticket agent all the way to the crews. When I travel the service I personally receive is very nice 7 out of 10 times. That's only a 70% pass rate. In my son's high school a 70% passrate is a 'D' grade. I will tell you I am proud to see how the airlines take care of a service member in uniform. A 100% great job by the airlines and I thank you!!!! Twenty years of military service makes me bias towards military members.
The airlines simply will tell a pax if they don't like it (the lack of service) then go fly on another airline. It's sad what the industry has become.
90-120 minute turns with 300 passengers and an aircraft usage that sometimes runs well in excess of 12 hours a day of aircraft flight time is a little different than a 10 passenger domestic corporate jet. So what about a 120 minute turn with a 50 seater or a 166? We all know that some of them are not turning in 90-120 minutes, but sitting longer. You're comparing apples and oranges when you compare size and turn times between the two. Regardless, I still stay that a person can take pride in their work, be a team player, not a slug and contribute. It's really a very small percentage that I've seen over the years who don't helpout. But those type of people leave a lasting impression on their pax. The pax are trapped by choices. They can not travel, travel with a different airline which may lead to the same result or take a form of ground travel.
I find taxi's to not be quite the same cleanliness standard as limos. Of course, limos tend to cost a bit more per seat per mile. B19 are you comparing a taxi to an airline and a limo to a fractional? That's how I read your statement and I hope you were joking when you wrote that line. Remember, a person gets what they pay for and the people that can afford a limo pay for it. I've been in some very clean cabs within some major cities. I've also in some very clean airliners. In fact, I really have not been in very many "dirty" planes when boarding. Now, deplaning is a different story. I am amazed at how some pax can be slobs (a$$holes) and not toss their trash. Lazy slugs and I feel for the crews that must clean it up.
I was not ever talking about the condition of the planes, but I am talking about the lack service the crews now provide or the thought process of flopgut and PCL_128. Would you want the type of those two working within your ranks based on their statements? Be honest B19.
If you don't like riding on scheduled carriers, why don't you negotiate a couple of spare aircraft in your inventory with your next CBA to cart you around. If that a little too pricey, then I'd just suck it up and ride like a normal passenger that has paid his ticket. I don't mind riding with the airlines at all. That's all that it is, a ride. It's part of my job and I roll with what comes along. Travel with a good book and an iPod to pass the time. I am one of those who'll actually talk to the other pax too. Again, twenty years of a certain type of living conditions does cause one not to complain and just deal with it. I just laugh if I see a slug (a slacker of a pilot) in uniform not helping out. Just wondering, how often do you travel during the year within the airlines? What do you see out there happening or not happening?
Until then, understand that 121 aircraft have a few more cycles on them with a bit more usage with a clientele that just doesn't keep it quite as clean as yours do. It doesn't mean the flight crew or air carrier cares any less. Remember, I have no issue with the plane and there conditions. Rarely do I find a POS one. It's the lack of pride some employees have regarding their airline and job. No pride whatsoever from these people. I've personally have seen it happen and not what I've heard. It's not hard to help out another member of the team. To say, write or display the "it's not my job" reeks of poor attitude (read slug). Again, would you want that type of person(s) within your ranks and representing your company? I sure hope not. You want a person that will step up and be a team player without being asked or directed.
I still say we have the best way to earn a living and I enjoy heading to work. There are still a great deal of wonderful people thoughout the aviation industry that make it a fun place.
B19, thanks for you thoughts. Cheers!!
Clinton had less experience than Palin.
This is the same lady who qualified her foreign affairs experience on the fact that she could see Russia from her house?
Got news for you - just because I can see the moon, doesn't make me an astronaut![]()
Quick trivia fact: Palin did not say that, Tina Fey did as Palin on SNL. Palin said that you can see Russia from some island in Alaska, which is true. This is what happens when you get your news from the Daily Show.
So which is it.. Explosive or not?