My Next Adveenture! Departing 06/02/07

[mcjohn]

Never said I wanted to be anything else ferrying is fun total kick in the pants and makes you know your alive.

Let me get this straight....you were only thinking of becoming a ferry pilot when you began taking flying lessons.

Let me explain another reason why Ndub is considered abnoxious and seems so full of himself to many pilots. I never really had a problem with him and thought he's probably a pretty nice guy and all so I took up for him a time or two.

Then one night over at P R O P I L O T W O R L D . C O M we were having one of our "bored room" chats that was set up for a Q&A session with a special guest. The guest was from a private aviation security firm and put a lot of work into creating a little presentation for us and answering a set of challenging questions about TSA, VIP security, etc...

Well as the chat progresses we're all following the protocol and know to hold our questions until the end....except for NDub...he barged in about his personal issues with security and how his wife had been detained. We gave him the benefit of the doubt and assumed he didn't know the rules and told him he needed to wait. He refused to listen and continued to barge in as if he was on a mission to disrupt the special guest. Because he had personal issues with a security experience when ferrying a plane to Lebanon and something that caused his wife to be detained (who he obviously doesn't care about as he brags about running with other women) he felt obliged to barge in and ruin a very well done guest chat session.

He was only there to attack the guy and was dumb enough to keep lumping him in with TSA. We were all blown away at his selfishness, immaturity, and what appears to be a problem with his judgement while constantly appearing to be a lush in need of some help. He was asked to leave and to accept a refund of his membership dues as he is incapable of having even the smallest measure of respect for professionalism in aviation.

 

[momalley81]

NWpilot, knocking those guys who fly the 1900's for Great Lakes isn't going to make you any friends. Talking down about others isn't going to make you any friends. I am sure you're making yourself a reputation as a ferry pilot...

As to great contacts? You've already pissed off enough people in the industry to effectively ruin yourself if you don't have a major attitude adjustment and spend a long time, for lack of a better word, repenting for all your past sins. There are different ways of going about things and your way is not the right one.

For instance the airlines are too not for me, but you never know what hands life deals you and who you will be your friend tomorrow so I'd be careful about throwing some libel around about the people who are the most numerous in this industry...airline pilots. They move on to corporate jobs, charter jobs and ferry jobs. They know people. I'd bet that most people who have been around the business even for a few years as a professional are only a few degrees off of knowing everyone in the industry.

You're splashing in a very small pool and you're heading into the deep end without your water wings. When the time comes you start sinking are you sure someone is going to come help you...?

We have tried to explain that to him many times. He doesn't want to listen.

 

[DIRT]

Landlover

So let me get this straight:

Taking a job in piston crossing the pond = idiot

Flying night freight in a Lear = okay

hum.... I think that's flawed logic.

I think both are pretty risky.

 

[momalley81]

So let me get this straight:

Taking a job in piston crossing the pond = idiot

Flying night freight in a Lear = okay

hum.... I think that's flawed logic.

I think both are pretty risky.

You dont have it straight. Not anywhere close.

I am a professional and have been trained as such. Numerous type ratings, international courses, recurrent PC's and the like.

NW_Pilot had never flown an Aero Commander before this endeavor. And has not been trained on one. All he needs is the keys and the POH. Just like his signature states. He only has 50 hours multi to begin with.

And for the record on another website we heard from someone who has over 4000 hours of Aero Commander time and many many ferries. He said there was no way in hell he would do what NW_Pilot is trying to do.

There is a big difference to minimizing a risky situation and just being plain stupid. NW_Pilot nor you seem to know the difference.

I am sorry DIRT but with only 700 hours you really don't have the knowledge nor the education to know what you are talking about. Thats not a put down thats just a fact.

 

[ag2pilot]

So let me get this straight:

Taking a job in piston crossing the pond = idiot

Flying night freight in a Lear = okay

hum.... I think that's flawed logic.

I think both are pretty risky.

In what universe would those be anywhere close to the same risk factor?

Actually, now that I think about it I can think of one scenario where the risk factor would be the same.

 

[chperplt]

NW Pilot and Dirt... Same person???

 

[NW_Pilot]

Let me get this straight....you were only thinking of becoming a ferry pilot when you began taking flying lessons.

Let me explain another reason why Ndub is considered abnoxious and seems so full of himself to many pilots. I never really had a problem with him and thought he's probably a pretty nice guy and all so I took up for him a time or two.

Then one night over at P R O P I L O T W O R L D . C O M we were having one of our "bored room" chats that was set up for a Q&A session with a special guest. The guest was from a private aviation security firm and put a lot of work into creating a little presentation for us and answering a set of challenging questions about TSA, VIP security, etc...

Well as the chat progresses we're all following the protocol and know to hold our questions until the end....except for NDub...he barged in about his personal issues with security and how his wife had been detained. We gave him the benefit of the doubt and assumed he didn't know the rules and told him he needed to wait. He refused to listen and continued to barge in as if he was on a mission to disrupt the special guest. Because he had personal issues with a security experience when ferrying a plane to Lebanon and something that caused his wife to be detained (who he obviously doesn't care about as he brags about running with other women) he felt obliged to barge in and ruin a very well done guest chat session.

He was only there to attack the guy and was dumb enough to keep lumping him in with TSA. We were all blown away at his selfishness, immaturity, and what appears to be a problem with his judgement while constantly appearing to be a lush in need of some help. He was asked to leave and to accept a refund of his membership dues as he is incapable of having even the smallest measure of respect for professionalism in aviation.

Whatever! I will not respond to anything further OT! professional flamers have fun!!!!!

 

[NW_Pilot]

So let me get this straight:

Taking a job in piston crossing the pond = idiot

Flying night freight in a Lear = okay

hum.... I think that's flawed logic.

I think both are pretty risky.

Dirt. Will disagree with you on this.

A Piston crossing the Pond in my opinion has way more risk involved!!

I know the risk's and the consequences in what I do and I accept them which most do not. Then people keep trying to tell me the risk's and the consequences of the way I earn a living!

Anytime when you move yourself faster than a walking pace you risk death! Hell some have gotten killed just walking do I stop walking? Hell no!

Each person has their own amount of acceptable risk and it varies! See you all in a few days!

 

[na265]

Best of luck, man. Be safe!

 

[Metro752]

Not even Rich Tillary would say, "I can do it, wanna see me do it," to this.

 

[avbug]

Flying night freight in a Lear = okay

hum.... I think that's flawed logic.

I think both are pretty risky.

You think flying freight is risky, flying at night is risky, or flying a Lear is risky? Do you have experience doing any of those things that might qualify you to make such as assumption beyond a wild, uneducated guess?

Ive done a lot of things in Lears, including night freight. I have also flown special missions lears with modifications and external equipment, at night, under unusual conditions, including weather research...I can tell you as a career professional, I'd certainly not have done it if I considered it a risk. Not in the least. Flying a learjet is not a risky endevor. It's a well designed, safe aircraft...all of the various models. Flying a lear at night isn't a risk; the aircraft has ample performance on one engine, full systems capability on either engine with respect to electrical and accessories, and doesn't care a whit if it's day or night.

The presence of cargo in the aircraft vs. passengers makes absolutely no difference and is entirely irrelevant. If night freight in a Learjet is a risky endevor, then that's the pilots fault; he or she isn't doing it right.

Whatever! I will not respond to anything further OT!

So you say, never the less, you responded again anyway.

Does flying aircraft overseas make one a dangerous "crazy" pilot? No. Is it irresponsible? No. Can one be a professional ferry pilot who offers a legitimate, safe service to a client? Absolutely. This doesn't describe NW Pilot, however, who brags about being a crazy pilot, who acts irresponsibly, and who is far from professional in his comments and actions, and who lectures about others taking ferry flights on the cheap, but who at the same time undercuts proper rates to get the jobs done himself...on the cheap.

I've known others like NW Pilot. Most of them are dead now, none by natural causes.

Perhaps more significant than the poor decision making which NW Pilot not only admits to, but openly brags about and holds up as a badge of honor, is his level of immaturity. This is not an appropriate trait in a pilot, certainly not in a professional. He acts and speaks as a teenage kid, not an adult. Most would at a minimum be discreet about acts and events that NW Pilot brags about; sadly he's not only no ashamed of them, but thrilled to show them off, and somehow is too dense to figure out how stupid it makes him look.

Ferry pilots frequently move aircraft which they haven't flown before. This isn't unusual. Ferry pilots frequently make trips over water and areas where others prefer not...that's what they do, deliver airplanes. This can be done safely, and is one safely, all the time. NW Pilot made wise decisions in electing to return to Hayward with the problems that he encountered, yet the matter remains that he probably shouldn't have been there to begin with.

Can a low time, low experience pilot safely do a demanding job? Yes. I was flying ag and spraying fields when I had quarter of the time that NW Pilot has now, and that was many years ago as a teenager. I also did it under close supervision, after some very involved, dedicated training in every single aspect of what I did. One must walk before one runs, and NW Pilot's posts make it clear that he never learned to properly crawl; his running appears to be that of an impaired drunkard without any particular direction or sense of balance.

I'm all for one taking the proverbial bull by the horns and making something of one's self. That's far cry from stepping into places where one shouldn't be, in over one's head and experience, beyond one's depth, and attempting to teach one's self what one doesn't know and hasn't the experience to teach. Be careful of scars earned in battles in which you should never have fought.

 

[DIRT]

avbug

I am willing to bet 100 dollars or a few rounds of beer or your favorite drink that statistically speaking Part (Cargo) 135 Lear operators have a higher accident rate than most other sectors of aviation be it part 121 / part 91 corporate type, or just tooling around in a cub. I don't think I have to have 10,000, 2,000 or 10 hours in a lear to understand this. I think lots of factors are in play here, among them working on the back side of the clock, long duty days, pushy dispatchers and the list goes on and ntsb statistics would prove it.

Dirt

 

[navigator72]

Goodluck NW-Pilot, I can't believe I am still reading this thread.

 

[NW Flyer]

Hmmm. Does anybody know if it's possible to change your FI username???





Just askin'...

 

[svcta]

The thing that you, NW, well, one of the many things, is that while you may be making "great" contacts in the industry, even reputable operators know who they can get to do things that others won't do. And just because they call you or treat you nicely doesn't mean that you've earned their respect. Just that they know exactly what they can get you to do.

You'll always be the one they'll call for the D-list jobs. Nothing more. This is a really small world as has been said already. And I personally cannot believe that you as the pro you SOMETIMES try to present yourself as, just called airline pilots "busdrivers". There aren't enough buttons on this keyboard to really say what you need to hear.

And quit, for the love of god, calling these trips "adventures". You sound like such a hack. If you really were a professional you'd understand what they really are: Jobs, trips, work, whatever. But continuing to refer to them as your "adventures" smacks of idiocy and a very poor handle on what's really going on.

Oh, yeah, I've flown in places in the world where it is difficult to get around in regular street clothes. However, just the shirt and bars worked fine EVERY time. No phony badges or ties. Blowhard.