My entire outlook on SWA has changed.

[StopNTSing]

Correct. "Hired not acquired" is more than a bag tag. Its a mindset. A mindset every pre-merger SWA pilot will carry into the cockpit every day. And when the staple doesn't occur, its going to be the 900 lb. gorilla every SWA f/o will harbor when he flies with an AAI Captain, even as he's counting his "Citrus override."

The cockpit climate will SUCK at SWA for decades.

You're starting to salivate, Fubi.

 

[On Your Six]

You're starting to salivate, Fubi.

But he very well could be correct. Ever hear of "Greenbook, Redbook?". I see it here in DTW.

You guys will be "checkbook, phonebook."


Godspeed!


OYS

 

[freightdogfred]

But he very well could be correct. Ever hear of "Greenbook, Redbook?". I see it here in DTW.

You guys will be "checkbook, phonebook."


Godspeed!


OYS

I hate to admit it but I think you are right. Not to mention the fact the 717 payrates will be less, and the lion's share of WN upgrades will prob be on that airplane. SWAPA's tactic of using payrates as a bargaining chip will be coming home to roost.

 

[On Your Six]

Arbitration could solve a lot of those problems. They would make the rules, not SWAPA. (fences, etc). Then they could blame the arbitrators, not themselves.



Godspeed!



OYS

 

[Sacha]

Arbitration could solve a lot of those problems. They would make the rules, not SWAPA. (fences, etc). Then they could blame the arbitrators, not themselves.



Godspeed!



OYS

Was Redbook/Greenbook arbitrated? I know you were in "Stupid Susies School for Homely Girls" and only 10 years old, but maybe one of the Republic guys enlightened you. Oh wait, your a new-hire so you won't be wide-body for 15 more years. Wide-body jet I meant.

GODSPEED!

 

[On Your Six]

Was Redbook/Greenbook arbitrated? I know you were in "Stupid Susies School for Homely Girls" and only 10 years old, but maybe one of the Republic guys enlightened you. Oh wait, your a new-hire so you won't be wide-body for 15 more years. Wide-body jet I meant.

GODSPEED!

Yeah, I think it was arbitrated, which was better than the TWA staple at AA, which will never happen again. (against the law now). That is bad news for you, and you and your group deserve what you get coming up here. Couldn't happen to a more cockier group. Btw, the bottom 3 guys on our list fly widebodies. You fly an old 733 into TUL.


Godspeed!


OYS

 

[madjack]

AAI pilots, sorry your airline was bought, but it could be worse...DAL could have bought you and you would be a part of that mess...

 

[Sacha]

Yeah, I think it was arbitrated, which was better than the TWA staple at AA, which will never happen again. (against the law now). That is bad news for you, and you and your group deserve what you get coming up here. Couldn't happen to a more cockier group. Btw, the bottom 3 guys on our list fly widebodies. You fly an old 733 into TUL.


Godspeed!


OYS

And with a couple of extra premium trips I pulled in $32,000 for the month....

How's your commute to Detroit? Or do you live there? Detroit probably has homes more in your price range......

GODSPEED!!

 

[On Your Six]

And with a couple of extra premium trips I pulled in $32,000 for the month....

How's your commute to Detroit? Or do you live there? Detroit probably has homes more in your price range......

GODSPEED!!

I have family here, and that helps. When the SLI is complete, maybe Ty will snag those trips you want. And with current economic conditions, maybe GK will reign in on those extra high months of yours? I mean, the higher 717 rates were taken off the table, you know.....


Godspeed!


OYS

 

[FlyinGuy]

I do know that my wife and children have a gun pointed at their heads right now. How willing am I to risk their lives?

That is one of the most idiotic statements I have read on FI in a long time. If you have not figured this out yet, this is business. We (AT/SWA pilots) are pawns in the game. The sooner you realize that, the better off you will be.

I will play the game by their rules. They will always have the gun.
I don't mind playing the game by their rules. I just hate it when they change the rules and don't tell you.

Again, They always make the rules. Remember you are labor and management always controls what happens. Unions are a huge help in forcing the hands of management, but they do not and will not ever drive the ship.

 

[canyonblue]

Yeah, I think it was arbitrated, which was better than the TWA staple at AA, which will never happen again.

Godspeed!


OYS

"Yeah, I think it was arbitrated..." Are you really that stupid? You work with former Republic and Northwest guys and you have no clue of the REDBOOK/GREENBOOK history. You are either the stupidest pilot on this forum, or you don't really work for Delta. Not knowing REDBOOK/GREENBOOK is unbelievable, even if you don't work for Delta. Ask someone about the Roberts Award, it was even in play when NWA got their A330's. Man you are pathetic, here is a link to some light reading for you, sorry it has no pictures.

http://mn.findacase.com/research/wfrmDocViewer.aspx/xq/fac.%2FFDCT%2FDMN%2F2007%2F20070824_0000747.DMN.htm/qx

 

[slaquer5]

Oy6 is a chick who flys for AT. She is homly chick at that.

 

[redflyer65]

"Yeah, I think it was arbitrated..." Are you really that stupid?

Yes, yes she is.

 

[vv100]

Now, now it's hard to know all things Airline when you live under an overpass, steal WiFi from Mcdonalds, and smell like cheese.

 

[pilotyip]

not true. Sorry.

not even a little bit?

 

[no1pilot2000]

If I were younger and had the experience to apply for a pilot job at SWA, I would go for it without hesitation!! SWA has weathered many storms from 9/11 to a recession. I have been on many SWA flights over the years, visit the cockpit, and say hello to the pilots. They always seem very willing and friendly to welcome me when I visit them at work!! That has been my experience.

 

[flyn96]

Does this mean you are not going to apply?

Who uses S-340's these days anyways?

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Delta, UAL, CAL, US Air. Flown by Mesaba, Colgan.

Do you not fly to BOS, LGA, DCA, IAD, ATL, DTW, MEM, MSP, IAH, PHL????

Opens your eyes bro, they've outlasted many of their RJ replacements.

Belittle much????? Let me guess he's not a real airline pilot cause he flys prop jobs??? You're proving the original poster to be spot on!

 

[Sacha]

Your mighty sensitive about propellers bro. No need to be defensive. My Pitts and Stearman both have props. I LUV them. Do you still fly props? If so, you are a lucky man.

Does this mean you are not going to apply?

Who drives Freightliners anymore?

 

[nimtz]

not true. Sorry.

A stellar source of that Herb culture given that you are one of the original LUV Sky Nazis on this board.

 

[SWA/FO]

A stellar source of that Herb culture given that you are one of the original LUV Sky Nazis on this board.

not true, sorry. They are standing by their current Family (employees) if you will.

We have said over and over, this would happen. Most of you laughed at us. I said "don't over play your hand" more of you laughed at me.

Some guys thought and still think that Gary has no choice is what he does. I said "no good CEO will get painted into a corner" I described a fork in the road moment and how important it was to recognize it, maybe some have, actually most have now that Herb came forward. Some just fell for the ALPA playbook, yeah we will just shoot this down and get a better deal , next time around. That don't work with Southwest. Now, think about our contract, you think that was a gift? Now you realize how hard that was for SWAPA to get.

Sometimes FACTS hurt.

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