My entire outlook on SWA has changed.

[Fubijaakr]

Chase,
I have no idea how long it will take the dust to settle. I do know that my wife and children have a gun pointed at their heads right now. How willing am I to risk their lives? GK and Herb have been loud and clear with their innuendo and couched words. This is the foundation of the "relationship" that will last another 15 years. I will play the game by their rules. They will always have the gun. I will make the prediction that an AT pilot will be fired within the next 6 months for whatever reason to send another message to this pilot group that you WILL obey.... or else. Message received. I will continue to do my job in a professional manner and will take care of the passengers and crew. Til the day that I leave this industry my family will always have that gun pointed at their heads. You will always be part of the inner sanctum. We will not.

Correct. "Hired not acquired" is more than a bag tag. Its a mindset. A mindset every pre-merger SWA pilot will carry into the cockpit every day. And when the staple doesn't occur, its going to be the 900 lb. gorilla every SWA f/o will harbor when he flies with an AAI Captain, even as he's counting his "Citrus override."

The cockpit climate will SUCK at SWA for decades.

 

[texman]

Chase,

Thank you for taking the time to write that post. Very well thought out and not pretentious at all. I just had this naive thought that everything was rainbows and butterflies at SWA, but I guess there are some at every airline. It's unfortunate that there are some very vocal pilots from SWA on this board that bring down the image of your airline.

I also would have thought there would have been a more positive reaction to the AirTran pilots. "Welcome aboard. This is a great airline and you will be very happy here. Let's get this done so we can grow this thing" was more of what I was expecting than arguing over and over about how good SWA is and how the AirTran guys don't belong.

bri,

It's not that the AT people do not belong at SWA, I think everyone of them belong here. It is the attitude of some that say "What culture, is this how you treat your future co-workers". We at SWA will take care of our own first. The good problem will be when we do unify. Once the AT peeps get over here and are treated with respect and see the fun luving attitude they will see why we were and are so defensive about this SLI. It's not just the SLI, it is the whole package. Once they get a taste of it DAL will be in big trouble in ATL.,

 

[Steeler Fan]

I personally wish that the fighting would have been left in DAL (behind closed doors and not aired out on FI.com)...

Going forward, in my mind, 2 things will determine how good the culture will continue to be at SWA after integration begins...(both are equally important)

1. How willing AAI guys are ready to turn the page and get on board
2. How willing WN guys are ready to turn the page and get on board

No matter what you've posted on here, I look forward to working with all of you going forward!

In the words of Drumline: "One Band....One Sound!"

 

[redflyer65]

Steeler,

Your exactly right, and I'm still optomistic that 99% on both sides will make that culture survive and prosper. Ready to get it behind us.

RF

 

[hairball1173]

It's great you guys think so much of yourselves. Pssssst. You are paid well to fly old planes to OKC.


Godspeed!


OYS

Hey, what's wrong with flying to OKC.

 

[SWA/FO]

It's great you guys think so much of yourselves. Pssssst. You are paid well to fly old planes to OKC.

We got new ones too, YOU TOOL.

Godspeed.... OY6 jackass

 

[FlyForFood_NOT]

Does this mean you are not going to apply?

Who uses S-340's these days anyways?

And what in the world does it matter what he flies??? You think you're better because you don't fly Saabs? That was a dumb shot coming from a dumb pilot...

 

[pilotyip]

SWA is different than in the old days, pre 1999 they were just another LLC. A second level carrier, pilots seemed to demonstrate an attitude of I am just one of the guys. I think we can all agree that has changed,. SWA is now number one and with that comes, as seen here, a certain sense of entitlement by a few of the posters. It is a kinda of smack in your face "Hey I am SWA pilot and you are not, therefore you can not be a good as me" Anyone else see this?

 

[luvfan]

Respect

I think that's probably one of the main things that we pilots want.

Remember this is just an anonymous forum.

SWA pilots want respect.

AirTran pilots want respect.

They all desrve it as long as they give it. Two-way street.

 

[Steeler Fan]

I think that's probably one of the main things that we pilots want.

Remember this is just an anonymous forum.

SWA pilots want respect.

AirTran pilots want respect.

They all deserve it as long as they give it. Two-way street.

I think you're right in many ways, and mutual respect will take us far.

I will give respect to all until someone proves that they deserve something different (even then, I probably will give them a mulligan). It definitely is a two-way street, but I think if we spend our lives waiting for someone else to take the first step, we will be disappointed more than if we take it upon ourselves to lead by example.

 

[Fubijaakr]

SWA is now number one and with that comes, as seen here, a certain sense of entitlement by a few of the posters. It is a kinda of smack in your face "Hey I am SWA pilot and you are not, therefore you can not be a good as me" Anyone else see this?

I think I've made it clear I see it in spades. Its exactly how the UAL guys were in 1992.

 

[texman]

SWA is different than in the old days, pre 1999 they were just another LLC. A second level carrier, pilots seemed to demonstrate an attitude of I am just one of the guys. I think we can all agree that has changed,. SWA is now number one and with that comes, as seen here, a certain sense of entitlement by a few of the posters. It is a kinda of smack in your face "Hey I am SWA pilot and you are not, therefore you can not be a good as me" Anyone else see this?

That is total BS.

 

[redflyer65]

I think I've made it clear I see it in spades. Its exactly how the UAL guys were in 1992.

Fubag,

You and OYS are a broken record. We get it, please just post on your Alaska or Deltoid threads. Give it a rest already.

 

[SWA/FO]

SWA is different than in the old days, pre 1999 they were just another LLC. A second level carrier, pilots seemed to demonstrate an attitude of I am just one of the guys. I think we can all agree that has changed,. SWA is now number one and with that comes, as seen here, a certain sense of entitlement by a few of the posters. It is a kinda of smack in your face "Hey I am SWA pilot and you are not, therefore you can not be a good as me" Anyone else see this?

not true. Sorry.

 

[Sacha]

And what in the world does it matter what he flies??? You think you're better because you don't fly Saabs? That was a dumb shot coming from a dumb pilot...

Actually, I rode the jumpseat on a Saab about 23 years ago and thought it was pretty cool. Just wondered who was still flying them. Dumbazz.

Say. What's Continental paying the right seat of a 737 these days? How is the merger going to affect you? Overstaffed a little? Well good luck.