Moving USAPA Forward

[xanderman]

Understand it now?

No... He doesn't! Most easties don't. If any of them did they'd be ready to move on, get a decent contract and look towards a brighter future....

 

[shon7]

keep up the bickering while Mgmt laughs all the way to the bank.

 

[waveflyer]

keep up the bickering while Mgmt laughs all the way to the bank.

+100,000,000,000,000

And we all pattern bargain. So keep up the bickering. AMRs in bankruptcy. SWA rates are coming under increased pressure. Delta's about to be in negotiations. Jetblu, spirit, and virgin all pay better.
All pilot's really (sarcasm) appreciate this internal fight that keeps loa 93 around.

 

[johnnyb]

I'll never understand why West folks can be so corrosive in their rhetoric and then shamelessly propose the East vote in favor of the West :blush:

Those two define a 1 trick pony

 

[vetrider]

keep up the bickering while Mgmt laughs all the way to the bank.

The west isn't bickering, it's just trying to keep from being buried alive by an unethical bully.

 

[Jake Dawg]

OK, the thread died.

When does the voting end? Who won/lost?

 

[charlie2]

As predicted there will be a runoff election with one eastinfection and one westicle. The eastinfections will become the new USAPA leadership.

 

[becket]

As predicted there will be a runoff election with one eastinfection and one westicle. The eastinfections will become the new USAPA leadership.

You are most likely correct. However, Hummel is going to drag everyone down another multi year long dfr road if he thinks he's going to alter the entire contract around "mitigating" the nic. Award. That line of thinking is no different than DOH. I've said from the beginning, a vote for East leadership is a vote for retirement on LOA93. It doesn't matter who wins. The law is the law and the Wests' feet are firmly planted on the right side of it.

 

[charlie2]

You are most likely correct. However, Hummel is going to drag everyone down another multi year long dfr road if he thinks he's going to alter the entire contract around "mitigating" the nic. Award. That line of thinking is no different than DOH. I've said from the beginning, a vote for East leadership is a vote for retirement on LOA93. It doesn't matter who wins. The law is the law and the Wests' feet are firmly planted on the right side of it.

Hi Becket!!!

I'm not sure what you mean by "law" could you explain?

 

[becket]

Hi Becket!!!

I'm not sure what you mean by "law" could you explain?

Of course I could! However, I'll let the 4th Federal Judge, (silver) that has slammed USAPA explain it to you for me in the next few months.

 

[charlie2]

Of course I could! However, I'll let the 4th Federal Judge, (silver) that has slammed USAPA explain it to you for me in the next few months.

It's a civil hearing not a criminal one so the word "law" isn't applicable. If I sue my business partner for financial damage it doesn't become "law". "Slammed"? Really? Why don't I feel "slammed"? If someone slams you shouldn't you feel it? If you don't even feel it shouldn't it be a differant word than "slammed"? Do you really believe the judge is going to change the RLA and take my rights away to vote "no" on a contract that would make the nic the list? Her decision is going to affect me the same as the awful awful injunction affected me!!!!!!

 

[becket]

It's a civil hearing not a criminal one so the word "law" isn't applicable. If I sue my business partner for financial damage it doesn't become "law". "Slammed"? Really? Why don't I feel "slammed"? If someone slams you shouldn't you feel it? If you don't even feel it shouldn't it be a differant word than "slammed"? Do you really believe the judge is going to change the RLA and take my rights away to vote "no" on a contract that would make the nic the list? Her decision is going to affect me the same as the awful awful injunction affected me!!!!!!

DFR is under the heading of "labor law" the TA is under the heading "contract law" if you didn't know even that much than I would just write it off as you simply believing the ridiculous bs from your fake union. You've been on loa93 for 5 YEARS longer than you were ever supposed to. That's called getting slammed. Why don't you feel it? Because you're an angry FO who doesn't care a whit about anything other than rebuilding your career upon the backs of innocent west pilots. Won't happen. Ever. That should be obvious by now.

Vote no all you want. That's perfectly legal. However, when a union intentionally refuses to fairly represent all of its pilots....that's a problem. your problem.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Charlie-Will you demand a vote? If not, why not?

 

[B-atch]

becket, you are just another example of Why the East wants No part in a merger with the west..

 

[JetMonkey]

Take the Nic, and let's all get a freaking pay raise like we deserve...