Moving USAPA Forward

[johnnyb]

I encourage every East pilot on here to set aside your feelings about NIC or the West for 5 minutes and 30 seconds and watch the video on their site.
Andy

You do realize one of those guys is about 100 numbers from the bottom out West.

Under the Nic award he jumps to 2300 and can hold 737 Captain out East.

 

[ultrarunner]

You do realize one of those guys is about 100 numbers from the bottom out West.

Under the Nic award he jumps to 2300 and can hold 737 Captain out East.

What are each of those persons pay rate?

The 100 from the West bottom FO vs. #2300 East 73 Cpt?

 

[becket]

You do realize one of those guys is about 100 numbers from the bottom out West.

Under the Nic award he jumps to 2300 and can hold 737 Captain out East.

False.

 

[ultrarunner]

False.

Ahh....so johnnyb just wants to stir the pot with false info...USapa would love him!

thanks becket.

 

[Turtle21]

"Unity" sounds great as a political battle cry... But I think to truly be successful, we as a pilot group need to find a way to achieve TRUE UNITY within our ranks to combat our mutual "enemy"....

How can we bring these two groups together as a unified voice??

Simple. Support the constitution and bylaws of the elected union.. or don't and shut the pie hole about unity. Just saying..

 

[becket]

Simple. Support the constitution and bylaws of the elected union.. or don't and shut the pie hole about unity. Just saying..

Your C&BLS were written solely by Eastholes who never even once invited a single, solitary West pilot to provide any input. Your C&BLs were found BY A JURY OF YOUR PEERS to be illegal. Sorry Easthole, your B.S. bylaws don't even come close to trumping the REAL Law. Haven't you noticed 4 years for constant failure and poverty? Have you ever wondered what's causing that?

 

[Turtle21]

Your C&BLS were written solely by Eastholes who never even once invited a single, solitary West pilot to provide any input. Your C&BLs were found BY A JURY OF YOUR PEERS to be illegal. Sorry Easthole, your B.S. bylaws don't even come close to trumping the REAL Law. Haven't you noticed 4 years for constant failure and poverty? Have you ever wondered what's causing that?

Ok. I'll mark you down as "Not only NO, but HELL NO!" on any unity.

P.S. You are cute when you are pissy. xoxo

 

[johnnyb]

Not stirring the pot.

737 Captain in DCA with 3 under him or PhL with 2 as of March alignment.

As usual - never admit to what is behind the Nic curtain ....

 

[MCDU]

The west can not handle the truth. The best solution for all is what happened with frontier and republic after the arbitraitor ruled.

M

 

[reepicheep]

A few interesting factors at work here...that bottom Captain position is actually 3/4 down the combined list. Lot's of east F/O's who can hold that position choose not to. The west pilot in question has moved up about 500 numbers on the combined list due to attrition. He was originally placed above approx. 1800 east pilots who were furloughed at the time of the merger; I believe all of these have been offered recall. So the bottom number overall has actually gone from about 6500 to 4700.

So it's not like this guy is leapfrogging a couple thousand pilots for this hypothetical Captain slot....he was placed on the list via relative position above the 1/3 of the east pilots who brought no job to the merger.

The east seem to be the ones who cannot handle the truth....that the Nic. is an unfortunate yet logically rendered result of the fact your airline imploded between 1990-2005.

 

[Turtle21]

A few interesting factors at work here...that bottom Captain position is actually 3/4 down the combined list. Lot's of east F/O's who can hold that position choose not to. The west pilot in question has moved up about 500 numbers on the combined list due to attrition. He was originally placed above approx. 1800 east pilots who were furloughed at the time of the merger; I believe all of these have been offered recall. So the bottom number overall has actually gone from about 6500 to 4700.

So it's not like this guy is leapfrogging a couple thousand pilots for this hypothetical Captain slot....he was placed on the list via relative position above the 1/3 of the east pilots who brought no job to the merger.

The east seem to be the ones who cannot handle the truth....that the Nic. is an unfortunate yet logically rendered result of the fact your airline imploded between 1990-2005.

Attempts to persuade folks to vote differently is a complete waste of time. People have already made up their mind. Just look at Becket.

 

[Superbird]

I bet there are plenty of pilots on the east who are ready for a pay raise. They are getting tired of the rhetoric from the usapa cheerleaders. Get ready for some changes.

 

[Carl S.]

The East AFO club 1985-1999 hires are holding the rest of the airline hostage for their terrible paths in life. The key to change is up to the other East pilots to move on from this path of LOA 93 for Life or till all AFO's upgrade and then move on. The ball is firmly in the East court. The vote count in a few weeks will tell, all 1100 West votes plus who wants to move on. Don't complain if you do not vote, you hold the keys to LOA 93.

 

[Turtle21]

I bet there are plenty of pilots on the east who are ready for a pay raise. They are getting tired of the rhetoric from the usapa cheerleaders. Get ready for some changes.

Pay raises are occurring via folks getting old enough to start collecting PBGC money, upgrades in seat and type, and by going from reserve to line holder. Change is happening, and retirements are only set to accelerate this fall.

 

[Lampshade]

Pay raises are occurring via folks getting old enough to start collecting PBGC money, upgrades in seat and type, and by going from reserve to line holder. Change is happening, and retirements are only set to accelerate this fall.

Sad really.:laugh: