Maybe a reson to vote Dem.

[FishandFly]

Doug, If you know what's involved and close your eyes to the fact that abortions are done to an innocent baby that IS by all standards a baby, sounds like you are one cold hearted sob.

Women who choose this screw up bigtime. I don't hate them, nor do I hate the abortion doctor or one of the 41 who were executed on death row last year, but they have made tremendous errors against humanity.

 

[Herman Bloom]

The inevitability of this thread is funny. Keep at it until you figure it out and then we'll notify congress and the supreme court.

 

[acaTerry]

Conception.

That is where the life process begins. Just like the first keystroke of this post defines the beginning of my reply. Just b/c the formation is incomplete does not mean that life has not begun.

 

[CopilotDoug]

That is where the life process begins.

But no one is sure where the human experience begins.

A cow as alive. Why stop the pro-life at humans?

 

[ClassG]

Agreed

All three candidates suck. We will have to choose between a giant ****************************** and a turd sandwich in the end.

I guess it's too late to admit that none of our presidential options are "right" for our needs right now. Can any (either) of these candidates be relied on to LEAD us out of this mess?

Can't we start the primaries over again with some new (better) blood? It's looking more and more like we're going to need it.

ClassG

 

[PCL_128]

But no one is sure where the human experience begins.

A cow as alive. Why stop the pro-life at humans?

This is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever read. The "human experience?" A human fetus is still a human. A cow is a completely different species. To compare these two is absolutely asinine. If you acknowledge that the human fetus is alive, then you also acknowledge that abortion is murder. There's no way around that.

 

[CopilotDoug]

This is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever read. The "human experience?" A human fetus is still a human. A cow is a completely different species. To compare these two is absolutely asinine. If you acknowledge that the human fetus is alive, then you also acknowledge that abortion is murder. There's no way around that.

Great PCL. Let me save everyone the next 12 pages of banter. I say "It's her right" and you say "Coward!" or "Moron!" or perhaps "Dispicable!"

Very productive.

Moving on...

 

[CopilotDoug]

I guess it's too late to admit that none of our presidential options are "right" for our needs right now. Can any (either) of these candidates be relied on to LEAD us out of this mess?

ClassG

To answer your question in short: No.

 

[G-force]

Having your VOTE!!

Obama has my vote.. nothing is going to change that.

Hey dude,that's just fine,so VOTE for OBAMA,if you want $250/barrel/oil,MARXIST/SOCIALIST gov't policies and a collapsed US economy!!!! Also note that you are voting for Jimmy Carter's 2nd term!!!!!
There is no such thing as a FREE LUNCH!!!!!Sen.Obama simply does not have a clue about this!!!

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Hey dude,that's just fine,so VOTE for OBAMA,if you want $250/barrel/oil,MARXIST/SOCIALIST gov't policies and a collapsed US economy!!!! Also note that you are voting for Jimmy Carter's 2nd term!!!!!
There is no such thing as a FREE LUNCH!!!!!Sen.Obama simply does not have a clue about this!!!

Just curious...how would a Rep. bring oil down?

Show your work...

 

[ALIMBO]

Instead of going back and forth and making stupid threads to bitch and argue about, why not just wait and see what happens? No matter what comment you make some other person is going to think the opposite, and trying to change the other persons perspective on it is a lost cause.

 

[Medeco]

a good read

For those of you who slept through World History 101 here is a condensed version. Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter.
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[/FONT]The two most important events in all of history were:
1. The invention of beer, and
2. The invention of the wheel.
The wheel was invented to get man to the beer, and the beer to the man.
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These facts formed the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:

1. Liberals
2. Conservatives.

Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed.

Some men spent thei r days tracking and killing animals to BBQ at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement.

Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly BBQ's and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement.

Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girlie-men.

Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy and group hugs, the evolution of the Hollywood actor, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide all the meat and beer that conservatives provided.

Over the years, Conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.

Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but m o st prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting evolutionary side note: most liberal women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals.

Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are
big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, firemen, lumberjacks, construction workers, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing .

Here ends today's lesson in world history.

It should be noted that a liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above before forwarding it.

A conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute trut h of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other true believers, and to more liberals...just to p..s them off.

 

[GogglesPisano]

Another perspective ...

Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican


by John Gray

Joe gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.

All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn’t think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

Its noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time.

Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dads; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans. The house didn’t have electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural Republican’s would still be sitting in the dark)

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home.

He turns on a radio talk show, the host’s keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day) Joe agrees, “We don’t need those big government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have”.

 

[ALIMBO]

Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe’s employer pays these standards because Joe’s employer doesn’t want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he’ll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn’t think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

Explain this one in the airline perspective? LOL thats what I thought.

 

[Carl_Spackler]

How about this: A womans "right to choose" is not in the constitution, and I don't think the founding fathers even thought of it. The did say how ever that if something is not granted or prohibited, then the states have the right to decide for themselves.

I don't like abortion, but I think it should be up to the states to decide.

 

[GogglesPisano]

Explain this one in the airline perspective? LOL thats what I thought.

You're right. Our pay and benefits would be much better without collective bargaining. :erm:

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Explain this one in the airline perspective? LOL thats what I thought.

Ugh...son...stop...

 

[Medeco]

Google,

Those are pretty big wins by liberals. I amazed that you think conservative values had nothing to do with any of those.

A capitalist and free society has its problems, but its the best option. Why else, do people from around the world move to America, the land of opportunity.

Your letter basically says Joe would never be able to survive without the Liberal, a big assumption.

Checks and balances.

Medeco

 

[ALIMBO]

Ugh...son...stop...

So your happy with your pay and QOL B?

 

[GogglesPisano]

Google,

Those are pretty big wins by liberals. I amazed that you think conservative values had nothing to do with any of those.

You never mentioned a desire for product safety or enviornmental safeguards in your description of conservatives. Labor protections were left out as well. Due to the omission, I can only assume that you don't consider those to be conservative principles (and you're right.)

A capitalist and free society has its problems, but its the best option. Why else, do people from around the world move to America, the land of opportunity.

I agree 100%. It's all about balance. Too much socialism leads to a stagnant economy and a brain drain. Too much laissez-faire leads to sweatshops, polluted rivers and robber-barrons. BTW, people come from all over the world to emigrate to Europe, Canada and Australia as well -- all considerably more liberal than the USA.

Your letter basically says Joe would never be able to survive without the Liberal, a big assumption.

Checks and balances.

Medeco

I was simply balancing your tirade about how conservatives build things and liberals don't contribute anything. Don't you think your post was a little slanted?




Quote: "Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing ."