Link to ExpressJet TA

[Mickey Mouse]

This TA is Dead On Arrival

 

[enuffalready]

Wow, I got a raise...current pay rate =$84.97/Hr..... New pay rate $84.98/hr.
$.01/hr. WTF!!!! they can't actually think that we will pass this POS....
I don't care how they sell the QOL increases, or job security.....I have seen all I need to see, This ASA guy is a definite NO Vote!!!
Thanks alpa for wasting my dues, and my time-
Can't get out of here fast enough.

what QOL increases? No raise on 50. LXJT keeps Bfund and LASA gets D!K. 65 hour MMG for vaca, company can now schedule 4 straight CDO's instead of 3.. laughable at best.

 

[DHPFLYN]

Was the charter section the same language from the LXJT side? That was interesting. Executive type interior, 90 hours at an $18 per hour override.

yep.......

 

[ohplease!]

A lot better than Bendover, Blowjets, or Brownstreak however. This ASA pilot will be voting yes.
There, I said it.

Well, THIS 15yr. LASA "lifer" is an emphatic NO! I'll help burn it down first. This entire TA is crap and our MEC should be removed immediately.

At some point, someone has to say NO....the line starts here.

 

[Mickey Mouse]

The MEC idiots need to prepare an easy to read (list type) document that clearly describes the gains and losses for each pilot group in each section of the contract. That document should have already been created and distributed by this point. They had 3 years to compile this type of document along the way. They may be working on it now, but they are probably just eating candy bars and getting ready for their 4 hour lunch on the ALPA credit card.

 

[waterskier]

This is about what I expected from the Co.
What I don't understand is what the MECs were thinking....?
Only theory I can see, is that if they voted no, then we would never get to see it, by letting us see it, it gets everyone mad and on the same side.... & a NO vote from the pilots carries a lot more weight than MEC NO Vote....
How cool would it be if it got a 98% NO Vote!!!! That would be a great message to the Co!!

 

[wms]

Most of the LASA pilots who said they would vote yes before, thought there would be at least minor improvements in pay offset with good qol. The only ones who will vote yes now are lifers who fear retaliation from the company and think their career at xjt will be threatened if they rock the boat.

Most of us, even a majority who planned to stay in the past, are applying elsewhere and don't care what happens to xjt since they don't want to be here anyway.

JB and soberirishman and others who will start coming on here to influence a yes vote so the company survives, should know that most of us, even 10+ year pilots, don't care if the company survives or not. Most only hope it survives as long as they're here.

I'm not a burn it down type of person, and I think this is a good company that fills an important role in the industry. But I hope to move on and would rather see this place disappear, before or after I leave, than degrade myself to accept the conditions they are presenting to us.

It's true you are worth what you negotiate, but negotiations aren't done until the yes vote is complete. A no vote is part of the process as well as the tactics the company will use in return. So let's keep negotiations open by voting no and forcing the negotiators back to the table.

We are going to lose airplanes no matter what. Mainline is shifting capacity upward where it belongs, regionals won't be able to staff making it necessary to shrink the fleet, and pilots who want to stay will be able to at a much smaller, maybe better run company. Meanwhile, we'll have preserved the company and improved qol and pay for those who have stayed.

If you're anything but very senior and think you have a future here you're wrong. The company will shrink as a result of market forces and if not enough pilots leave voluntarily, the bottom will be furloughed. Once again, a yes vote would not change that.

There is no conceivable, justifiable reason to vote yes unless you're super-senior with no where else to go.

NO

 

[goahead]

14 yr asa guy here voting nope, keep your change

 

[Lc130driver]

a 14.5 XJT guy voting NO!! So don't think the lifers are an automatic yes vote.

 

[genus]

Anybody notice that the duty rigs are gone for anything other than CDOs? Or am I reading that wrong? Can't wait to do a scheduled 14 hour duty day only to get paid for short round trip to some place like AGS or CSG out of the ATL! And min. day credit has been lowered slightly from current LASA book. A big fat NO! from me!