Link to ExpressJet TA

[The Truth!]

Here is a real zigger....Sick leave may be require to present a Dr note "describing the illness or injury" HELLO HIPPA! Shouldn't it just say fit for duty or not? I bet the female pilots file a law suit on this one!

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Here is a real zigger....Sick leave may be require to present a Dr note "describing the illness or injury" HELLO HIPPA! Shouldn't it just say fit for duty or not? I bet the female pilots file a law suit on this one!

Still an occurrence unless FMLA.

Company must have reasonable cause to request. That's purely dependent on the CPO and their mood.

So I go down to the clinic with a sinus or ear block. I see an NP. NP writes note. Is that acceptable- because he/she can practice on their own nowadays. Where is the solid language? More loopholes to exploit.

 

[Nevets]

Don't you just love how the LXJT guys get more than you in the JOINT CBA? Extra retirement contriubtions for 3 years, pay less Ins for 3 years and keep 75 hours MMG in vacation months? Can you say DFR!

Those things are huge concessions on the LXJT side!

Here is a real zigger....Sick leave may be require to present a Dr note "describing the illness or injury" HELLO HIPPA! Shouldn't it just say fit for duty or not? I bet the female pilots file a law suit on this one!

That's a colossal concession for the LXJT side. Currently, ANY AND ALL absences with a doctor's note do NOT count as occurrences.

 

[Mickey Mouse]

The nice thing about this TA is that it is equally insulting to both pilot groups.

 

[Plainsman]

For those who can see the ASA ALPA board go look under the CBA portion. Damn

 

[Freebrd]

You're not going to like it.

Are you still in the training dept SD ? No wonder you're content as IPs and union don't take a hit.

NO!

 

[The Truth!]

For those who can see the ASA ALPA board go look under the CBA portion. Damn

Do tell!

 

[TheRaven]

PSA, PCL, EGL pilots set the bar so low, you can feel the disdain and mockery in the TA. Thanks, guys.


NO

As an EGL guy I'm wondering how we got lumped in with PCL and PSA.....we voted the B scale down, and as such are seeing large RJs awarded to PSA and Republic with our name on them....we took minimal QOL concessions in bankruptcy but they didn't include pay cuts beyond per diem.....I think we're holding the line with management. What did we do to set the bar low?

 

[The Truth!]

Those things are huge concessions on the LXJT side!

Sorry Nevets I know it's a huge concession and I do not agree with the concessions in this TA on either side. I'm sorry that you have to give it up (maybe) because it has not been proven that you need to and we won't see it either. I don't agree the way it is being handled we should all be on the same terms in the JCBA. We are relying on the solidarity of your pilot group to vote this thing down, remove the reps and put people in there who make choices based on facts and logic not fear and threats.

 

[Freebrd]

Why are there differences in this TA between LXjt & LAsa? And here I thought Ed would be fair unless maybe the MECs overrode him? No doubt the Co trying to get LXjt to vote yes, with the MECs help. Sickening. Not only does ALPA negotiate for the majors vs regionals, now our own TA has differences between the two pilot groups!

NO!

 

[CRJ puppy]

I'm sorry, but I think I have a great job. You've been here almost as long as me. Why have you stayed so long if this isn't a great job?

Please step away from the kool aide.

 

[CRJ puppy]

I'm not going backwards in my career. I don't like this TA, but overall I think it is acceptable given what I see around me. ALPA has failed all of us. Compared to the other TAs recently, this is moving forward. Don't like it, but it was it is.

As we say in Boston... "What?! Are you retahded or something'?!?!"

 

[Mickey Mouse]

Has anyone done a thorough analysis comparing the transfer of flying sections under the current TA, as compared to the current contracts that both pilot groups currently have? Is there much difference in the number of aircraft and rate of transfer between XJT and SkyWest under the current TA compared to the current contract? Are there any new protections for XJT pilots under the current TA that provide seamless transition to SkyWest without an interview, at current pay and seniority level, in the event of furloughs due to shrinking? This TA is useless already, not even considering the transfer of flying possibilities. If the new TA does not provide a guaranteed position at Skywest, at relative seniority and current pay scale in the event of furlough, due to air frame transfer, then it becomes even more ineffectual. I remember early last decade when some colleagues and I would talk of our plans for going to Delta or Southwest or Etc. We were not overly concerned with regional pilot contract provisions. That was for the guys who were staying at regional airlines. Then, a bunch of planes flew into a bunch of buildings. Then, an economic downturn occurred. We all may be transferring to the majors very soon, and we all may be here longer than we hope. Plan for the worst. Don't put your neck in the guillotine. Demand protection. Don't go backwards on work rules and QOL protections and languish in stagnant pay scales. You deserve more. We are SkyWest Incorporated. SKYW Inc can afford it. We can afford it together.

 

[No Delay]

Hopefully this will unite everyone like "surejet" did. I think we needed this

 

[SoberIrishman]

That "surejet" thing sure was funny. Just demonstrates how out of touch our management is with the workforce. Hopefully a solid turnout with the coming voting will duplicate this.
I think the ASA folks are generally onboard with the sentiment of overall disappointment at the TA. There are things in there however that are hidden somewhat, like the duty rigs, vacation low credit, alternate deadhead etc that many need to be educated on.
Having looked it over, its not what I first thought. I would rather hang on for a while with what we have, and send this back for some serious "renegotiation".

 

[Freebrd]

I knew you'd come Irishman! A toast to you!

 

[Clutch]

I knew you'd come Irishman! A toast to you!

Just wait until the union sells this turd and the company puts up another EMB-175 story on the front page of the website, he'll be whistling a different tune

 

[wms]

Has anyone done a thorough analysis comparing the transfer of flying sections under the current TA, as compared to the current contracts that both pilot groups currently have? Is there much difference in the number of aircraft and rate of transfer between XJT and SkyWest under the current TA compared to the current contract? Are there any new protections for XJT pilots under the current TA that provide seamless transition to SkyWest without an interview, at current pay and seniority level, in the event of furloughs due to shrinking? This TA is useless already, not even considering the transfer of flying possibilities. If the new TA does not provide a guaranteed position at Skywest, at relative seniority and current pay scale in the event of furlough, due to air frame transfer, then it becomes even more ineffectual. I remember early last decade when some colleagues and I would talk of our plans for going to Delta or Southwest or Etc. We were not overly concerned with regional pilot contract provisions. That was for the guys who were staying at regional airlines. Then, a bunch of planes flew into a bunch of buildings. Then, an economic downturn occurred. We all may be transferring to the majors very soon, and we all may be here longer than we hope. Plan for the worst. Don't put your neck in the guillotine. Demand protection. Don't go backwards on work rules and QOL protections and languish in stagnant pay scales. You deserve more. We are SkyWest Incorporated. SKYW Inc can afford it. We can afford it together.

The old cba required five crews per airplane above five planes. When the union signed the TPA a provision was added exempting aircraft that go to (or through) the lessor. Originally when the six -200s went to Skyw for the phx operation five to ten crews should've gone with the planes retaining their seniority. But since the lessor exclusion was added to the TPA Asa pilots were just offered interviews. Of course, when I inquired the company played dumb, which is no stretch and the MEC would not accept or return my calls. How this TA addresses fragmentation I don't know, but I suspect it's not in our favor.

 

[JustaNumber]

The company has not made the case for a concessionary contract.

BUT...even if they did make the case for necessary cuts, FIRST they need to merge SkyWest Airlines and Expressjet Airlines to remove all unnecessary duplication, and SECOND management needs to take major paycuts. (BH just got a half-million dollar raise, and WE need to take cuts?) I don't see them working too hard on either. Therefore, real cost cutting is not deemed very important by the company for the survival of the company.

Big NO vote from me.

 

[asa rat]

The company has not made the case for a concessionary contract.

BUT...even if they did make the case for necessary cuts, FIRST they need to merge SkyWest Airlines and Expressjet Airlines to remove all unnecessary duplication, and SECOND management needs to take major paycuts. (BH just got a half-million dollar raise, and WE need to take cuts?) I don't see them working too hard on either. Therefore, real cost cutting is not deemed very important by the company for the survival of the company.

Big NO vote from me.

^^^^^^ This.