"Corrected? have you read the entire thread"?
Yes, unfortunately, but apparently it riles you up a lot more than me.
"There are guys who told me that unions are usless and that B6 would never need one".
The posters opinion, as silly as that may be, but it is similar to calling all G4 drivers idiots. Why even bother responding?
"Then I had a guy tell me that AA in on the brink of BK and Airtran is asking pilots for give backs."
There are those analyst that believe AA may be thinking about or need to do it, in order to get a better cost structure. I have also heard Arpey say, that such a thing was not in the cards for AA.Personally, I hope they don't. As for give backs at AAI, cannot say I heard it, but maybe someone did. We need some AAI pilots to know for sure.
"Then there was the guy who said that once the 190 starts making money Jetblue will automaticly increase the pay rates."
Your crystal ball must be better than mine, since mine seem unable to predict the future. His assertions appear as valid as yours, both are simple opinions, although his is based on previous company actions.
"This was a classic:"By my math a 5 year JB CA makes $136K and the AMR 12 CA makes $ 116 K per their contract" Then I do a pay comparison and get ripped for bashing jetblue pay rates."
I have no idea what a AA captain makes, well, that is not entirely true, I have a bit of an idea, but never sat down and did the math as you did. Why not, you may think, but I do not work at AA and to tell you the truth, I rather like jetblue.
"Or the guy who tries to tell me how he has a high quality of life flying the FAA annual max".
Some guys think they have a high quality of life, flying a G4, but living on a pager. Some feel they have a high quality of life, working nights all the time. I tried both, well not the G4, it was a Lear, but my quality of life is much better now. If the gent in question is senior, he may well enjoy a good quality of life, since daily utilization i relatively high. Maybe he lives in base and picks up a lot of open time, when the kids are in school and the wife at work. You may wish to do things differently, but if he is happy, then who are you to judge?
"Or how stock options are added compensation (maybe for the first 200 or so pilots but not for anyone hired in the last year."
Again, your crystal ball is better than mine. At present, you are correct, who knows in the future. Now, I would not describe as compensation, although it is part of the package, just like the AA issued options.
"Then their are the guys who told me I was "flaming" and "incorrect" when I brought up the fact of the canceled flights and not reporting a profit this quarter."
The cancelled flights are interesting, but I seem unable to find more info, than what you posted. Certainly the company has not put out the info and they probably would, since it would affect those pilots. Maybe they did it on the sly, but that is normally not how the company works.
As for posting a loss this quarter, that has been widely reported, with jetfuel at $110 barrel, I would imagine only SWA pulls of a profit. The gent in questions must not be following the news, WS or company info. That makes him ignorant, just shrug your shoulders and let it go.
"Man I could go on and on, and that's only this thread".
You do go on and on, not only on this thread, if it involves jb, you are there!
Many posters have asked you why this is? Now, I know there is history, but for the life of me, I cannot remember what the story was. You could set it straight, but you have chosen not to do so. Personally, I think it is a understandable question and your lack of response is curious. It is just my guess, but I think you are worried, that an honest answer, could perhaps show a bias in your postings?
"Maybe you feel these things don't need correcting, this is where we apparently differ. Would it have been eaiser for you if I said it was all me"?
I do not see, what you can gain from doing so. Are you hoping, that those that upset you, wake up one morning and realize you were right and that jetblue is a horrible employer, are you hoping they will turn to you and ask for your advice?
"ALPA does sneak in, first your elected representatives are out to do good. Then the next election a voice or two changes and then they start going to the ALpA kool aid parties and come back with some crazy idea on how it works at Brand X, the next thing you know they have snuck in the back door. You would be much better off with a group of JUST JB pilots that have no EXTERNAL influences. Or you could just believe that with 321+ jets you will never have a union".
Considering how many ex ALPA pilots we have here, I doubt ALPA would gain much traction, however, I still diasgree with your notion, that ALPA sneaks in, although, you may have seen his from personal experience, I have not when I was union represented.
As for external influence, isn't that exactly what you are trying to be?
Will a union be on the property, probably, but I cannot tell you when or how it will happen. I hope it isn't because of an adverserial relationship developing, but because the pilot group needs a single voice, to pursue those issues that affects the whole group as opposed to 3000+ pilots all going for their own issues.
