It's Official...The 717's are going to Delta

[Lear70]

Lear, I'm a little lost, whats the ramifications here again? Sorry, I'm being stupid today.

Nah, it's probably just lost in the 3 cross-conversations going on at the same time.

Bubba made a comment about the company having to come to SWAPA for relief when the timeline obviously isn't going to allow for Complete Operational Integration by 1/1/15 and the truth is, they probably will, but I don't think SWA has as good of a hand in that scenario as Bubba does.

Southwest has crafted the SIA very, very well, from the perspective of "legal advantage".

 

[WayBack]

So after Delta pilot vote to give up more scope, which regional is getting the 717's?

 

[scoreboardII]

Thanks Lear, thats clear. Yes, SWA has been known to use lawyers in their history.

 

[avi8tor007]

Hey guys. 12 yr AAI guy here. Last year I was at 198k not including 401k. I am at 163/hr right now. By the end of our AAI contract (14'), we would be at 186/hr. With the loss of flying on our side, losing those pay increases (extra 25-30k), cpt. seats., and the 1/1/15 pay. that hurts! It is what it is, not a damn thing anyone of us can do about it. Just wanted to throw some factual numbers out there.
I am sympathetic to the swa F/O's as well! Were are all in this together now, hopefully growth in 14' out of hobby???????

 

[GlobeIII]

our AAI contract (14'),

Was that the contract you guys got before or after SWA announced they were going to acquire you?

 

[redflyer65]

New contract was after SW made the announcement. Almost to year four on this side, should be close to 160k this year, without 401k.

 

[OakRBust]

aviator007..... That's 1214.7 hours. How the hell did you do that?

 

[Lear70]

Last year there was plenty of premium pay to go around if you wanted it. Not to mention our reserves were crediting upwards of 110-120 hours a month because of Twomey-Kasher before the new contract went into effect December before last.

Depending on where he's sitting and how hard he's willing to work, 100 hours of credit a month wasn't hard to do last year. Heck, my buddy on the 717 still does almost 100 hours a month even on the crappy lines we have now. Granted, he flies 20 days a month, but still, it can be done if you're willing to only have 9-10 days off a month...

 

[PCL_128]

aviator007..... That's 1214.7 hours. How the hell did you do that?

Really not that hard. I'm crediting over 100 this month.

 

[avi8tor007]

Actually just went and looked and it was pretty close. There was a lot of soft time over here for us fags. plus per diem, vacation, sick, etc... But was still pulling 15-16 off a month.