IBT 1108 Attempts to take NJASAP funds

[RNObased]

Cast of Thousands

As a FLOPS pilot, I hope your wrong

Cast of Thousands is rarely wrong....

I feel for the FLOPS guy's, but you can always vote in another set of leaders.

 

[TORCH67]

It's been fun Slave and all but I will leave you with this.

Betrayal, a form of deception or dismissal of prior presumptions, is the breaking or violation of a presumptive social contract (trust, or confidence) that produces moral and psychological conflict within a relationship amongst individuals, between organizations or between individuals and organizations. Often betrayal is the act of supporting a rival group, or it is a complete break from previously decided upon or presumed norms by one party from the others.

Good luck to you and the other Options pilots!
To the Teamsters ------>uke:

 

[Grizz]

But you know, I'm curious, is that why our message board went down in the middle of the night last night, you folks being supportive, "to all Flight Options pilots" and all?

We turned over adminstration of that site to Flight Options pilots and their tech staff yesterday around close of business. They were planning on moving the website to a different server as soon as possible. I don't know where that move stands but I would suspect that was the problem. Someone tinkering with something they didn't understand.

That being said, I got a call about an hour ago while I was out with my wife asking for me to see if I could fix it. As soon as I catch up on all the silliness on this thread, I'm going over there to troubleshoot it.

Gerry - you might want to talk to your tech folks before you start slinging accusations - especially when they are asking for my help.

 

[steelersrule74]

c'mon grizz, helping out others??? say it isn't so!!!!

 

[IDEtoNJA]

c'mon grizz, helping out others??? say it isn't so!!!!

Hey ... We all know that Steelers fans don't know anything about helping others!

IDEtoNJA

 

[x402]

FO pilots need to recall their e-board. Perhaps they need a fresh start, sound familiar?
I'm not surprised the IBT used the Trustees and less surprised they duped a bookkeeper.
Personally, I'm thrilled to be rid of the IBT. I'm sorry the pilot group at FO is still fighting for a fair share of the pie.
Resignations should be forthcoming, they will need to address their full attention to the legal problems they have brought on themselves.

I wonder if the IBT will pick up their legal fee's? mmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[GerryG]

We turned over adminstration of that site to Flight Options pilots and their tech staff yesterday around close of business. They were planning on moving the website to a different server as soon as possible. I don't know where that move stands but I would suspect that was the problem. Someone tinkering with something they didn't understand.

That being said, I got a call about an hour ago while I was out with my wife asking for me to see if I could fix it. As soon as I catch up on all the silliness on this thread, I'm going over there to troubleshoot it.

Gerry - you might want to talk to your tech folks before you start slinging accusations - especially when they are asking for my help.

Ok Grizz, point taken.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

We turned over adminstration of that site to Flight Options pilots and their tech staff yesterday around close of business. They were planning on moving the website to a different server as soon as possible. I don't know where that move stands but I would suspect that was the problem. Someone tinkering with something they didn't understand.

That being said, I got a call about an hour ago while I was out with my wife asking for me to see if I could fix it. As soon as I catch up on all the silliness on this thread, I'm going over there to troubleshoot it.

Gerry - you might want to talk to your tech folks before you start slinging accusations - especially when they are asking for my help.

Talk about some CRAZY spin...what a joke.
Let me guess, after you took down the board and prompted people to go to the dot COM version, you now have the sign in data for whoever put their info in.....
No one with a brain in their head believes any of the crap you guys are posting on here...let the lawyers hash it out, and we'll see the truth (of course long after the damage your words and actions caused has been done).
Called you jokers from DAY ONE. Wouldn't be surprised if NJASAP is an incarnation of NJ management.
Good luck to the good NJ guys...what a mess of LAZY don't -want-to be scheduled to work "leaders" who additionally wanted the prying eyes of IBT National out of their money to write checks as they please with no one to answer to. THAT's the reason for separation...don't be misled. And you poor scheduled/WORKING pilots let them have free reign.
Unreal.
At least Good triumphed over evil for once.

 

[Grizz]

Gerry,

I left a message for MT and LH. It looks like a file permission problem to me (and Google). CHMOD 755 or 775 should solve the problem

 

[Voice Of Reason]

I see B19 is viewing and enjoying this bogus thread. Don't worry B19, you've won nothing...the flops pilots won't believe YOUR FUD OR the NJ Association of Secret Accounting Practices FUD.

 

[Grizz]

Talk about some CRAZY spin...what a joke.
Let me guess, after you took down the board and prompted people to go to the dot COM version, you now have the sign in data for whoever put their info in.....

vBulletin doesn't work that way. Forum Admins don't see passwords. They can reset a password but that's it.

But keep believing whatever you wish - don't let facts stand in the way.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Projecting as usual....

 

[GerryG]

Gerry,

I left a message for MT and LH. It looks like a file permission problem to me (and Google). CHMOD 755 or 775 should solve the problem

Thats Greek to me, but sounds like a good start.

Thanks Grizz.

Perhaps it's time to start de-escalating this situation?

 

[Grizz]

Gerry,

Our beef was never with the Flight Options pilots as a group.

 

[Freedom]

Here comes B19 guys.....

Tapped onto his Screen Name and he is busy typing in some FUD (Fear, Uncertainly, and Doubt) for us all to be shaking in our boots over.

Oh boy, I can't wait:laugh:

Looks like he decided to sit it out on the Sidelines though for now, and see how much damage we can do to eachother, before he comes in to try and finish us off. Maybe B19 is being smarter than I give him credit for. Good decision B19. Why should you work for your Retainer, while we will do the work for you.

Freedom is Not Free