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Happy Trails Lear 70

Crash Pad

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Pilots are full of BS. Age 65 was awesome because it exposed every guy who said "65 hell no, I might work to 62 for Medicare to kick in but I'm ready to be done right now"... Or some flavor of that BS.

Lear 70 went a long way to getting AIP 1 shot down and proceeded to peddle AirTran BS on this website. It went something like this.
1. I'll hang on to AAI until the end. Money isn't important.
2. QOL is my bag, I work one or two trips a month, all PUJ 36 hour overnights, so I can enjoy the beach, cocktails, and most importantly get my workouts in.

Here is a sample:

"I'm here to work my 70-80 block hours a month, 840-960 hours per year (before vacation). The question is HOW HARD do I have to work to make that time. Here I can do it in 2-3 legs per day flying longer legs to fun destinations with long overnights. There... not so much.

Everyone on here was saying how EASY it was to get rid of your trips at Southwest, to trip improve, to pick up premium time, how much better our Quality of Life would be over there... unfortunately, it's not true, not for our F/O's anyway. People at my seniority over at SWA are working EVERY weekend, EVERY holiday, can't get rid of their trips, never get premium time because senior people snag it, etc, etc. And those are from guys who were all RAH RAH SOUTHWEST at the MEC meetings before the votes and couldn't get there fast enough.

They like the company (Southwest). They hate their Quality of Life compared to what it was at AirTran.

Therefore I'll hang out here until I'm forced across the partition, that's all. Not angry about it, but it's a simple fact, our Quality of Life and trip trading/dropping system is superior to yours due to the lack of ability to straight drop back to the company or trade trips without some imaginary threshold of minimum duty days we "owe" the company. "

So you can imagine my shock when SWA changed the rules and opened ground school to everyone... Number 1 on the list is Lear 70. Thanks for fighting hard to make sure we have half pay to the last day while jumping on the first train to Dallas and diving head first into that SWA cheddar!

Good luck! See you in 2015.
 

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Here I can do it in 2-3 legs per day flying longer legs to fun destinations with long overnights. There... not so much.

Akron, Flint, Rochester, Branson, yeah I see your point. :rolleyes:
 

Crash Pad

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Akron, Flint, Rochester, Branson, yeah I see your point. :rolleyes:

The original quote is from Lear70.

I'm just pointing out that for all his big talk he jumped at his first chance to go to Dallas.

Ill do the same for PNCL when he heads to Dallas rather than hang it up.
 

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Doesn't that bid all but close out AAI 737 ops out of MCO. The QOL for the 737 guys in MCO will rapidly deteriorate.
 

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LOL. Want a good tip for improving your QOL at SWA (or any airline for that matter)? Don't forget to bid!
 

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Sure did. That's one technique to learn all aspects of the contract. But not the recommended way..

Wow, sorry to hear that. Just so you know, there is a standing bid function available on CWA. Put one in and the next time it bites you it won't be as hard.
 

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Wasn't he the guy begging for SW to buy AT and staple them?

Not sure about the staple, but he interviewed twice at SW. I think Max said Lear was pretty concerned about non-integration after the MEC screwed the pooch.
 

Tripower455

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Lots..
Sure did. That's one technique to learn all aspects of the contract. But not the recommended way..

Bet that won't happen again soon....

As Howard said, there is a standing bid feature available on CWA. I think you can only access it during the bidding period.
 

maxblast72

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I think Max said Lear was pretty concerned about non-integration after the MEC screwed the pooch.
The game changer for Lear70 was Gary Kelly's August 22, 2011 update to the AirTran pilots. I am in possession of the two emails he sent the MEC and MC on August 23. The emails had a totally different tone than his emails to the MEC prior to August 22. I would bet Lear70 got less sleep on the night of August 22 than the night of August 21.

I will give Lear70 on the QOL over money thing. He bypassed the big raise he could have got a while back to stay on this side of the partition to bid #1 FO in MCO.
 

PCL_128

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Lear70 is leaving early because the company is drawing down MCO and he was going to get forced back to ATL. He was staying for the exactly reasons he listed in the post that Crash Pad posted: overnights in places like Aruba and flying one or two legs a day. That's gone once he gets sent to ATL, so it wasn't worthwhile for him anymore. In other words, no hypocrisy, no changing his story. So this thread is worthless, as is most of what Crash Pad has to say.
 

K-Mart

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The game changer for Lear70 was Gary Kelly's August 22, 2011 update to the AirTran pilots. I am in possession of the two emails he sent the MEC and MC on August 23. The emails had a totally different tone than his emails to the MEC prior to August 22. I would bet Lear70 got less sleep on the night of August 22 than the night of August 21.

I will give Lear70 on the QOL over money thing. He bypassed the big raise he could have got a while back to stay on this side of the partition to bid #1 FO in MCO.

Why don't you post those emails. It would be nice to see them.
 

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I'm just pointing out that for all his big talk he jumped at his first chance to go to Dallas.

First chance? He's been bypassing for months.

Ill do the same for PNCL when he heads to Dallas rather than hang it up.

Sorry, but you won't get that opportunity for me. For the same reasons that Lear is transitioning early, I'm looking at the possibility of resigning around the November timeframe, earlier than I had originally planned. With the "de-hubbing" of Atlanta that they've announced for this fall, the schedules just aren't going to be my cup of tea. Whether I resign early just depends on whether we have enough staffing to be able to drop most of my schedule every month. If we don't, then I'll have to hang it up before the end of the year. If staffing allows me to drop most of my schedule, then I'll probably stay until I can use next year's vacation in the first few months of the year, then I'll be gone. Either way, there won't ever be a transition class for me. Sorry to disappoint you.
 
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