Frontier Update

[Jetsi]

Hey all,

Was in the CP's office yesterday, and heard that the Sept. 12 class is filled with poolies. Don't know how many more classes will be filled with poolies, but they are going to start pulling resumes off of airlineapps.com this month and start interviewing in early October.

Good luck to all who are interested, it is a great place to work.

Jetsi

 

[Plug]

Hey all,

Was in the CP's office yesterday, and heard that the Sept. 12 class is filled with poolies. Don't know how many more classes will be filled with poolies, but they are going to start pulling resumes off of airlineapps.com this month and start interviewing in early October.

Good luck to all who are interested, it is a great place to work.

Jetsi

Noticed on airlineapps that Frontier requires a letter of rec. Any truth to this? Will it stand?

Cheers

 

[Jetsi]

Looking at the Min Qaul Req's

It doesn't say anything about a rec letter being required.

I know it definitely helps, though.

Good luck,

Jetsi

 

[RJET]

Any idea how many there are looking into hiring?

How many new airplanes?

 

[Jetsi]

Numbers

Last I heard we were hiring 84 pilots this Fiscal Year (ending April 30, 2006).

Approximately 40 were swimming in the pool, and I know quite a few got job offers elsewhere. So 20 in the pool, 64 new hires.

We are done receiving aircraft for this year (under our plan, but you know how things can change). Expecting 10 aircraft next calendar year, deliveries and acceptance flights are already scheduled. So I would assume they would be hiring more in FY2007.

Currently at 50 jets, 10 next year, 4 more by April 30, 2007. Expecting a fleet of 64 aircraft starting FY2008, but we supposedly have options for 20 more.

And that is about all I know.

Again, good luck.

Jetsi

 

[Jetsi]

Latest heard in the crewroom

Hello all,

Latest word is that hiring is going up from 84 to 107. And with 10 deliveries next year I believe the hiring will continue into the next FY.

Also heard that the interview process is totally changed. Any gouge you see that more than a week old will be inaccurate. Probably some good stuff hidden in there, but I don't think it will help much.

Good luck to all who are interested,

Jetsi

 

[js32driver]

Jetsi

Lots of good info in this thread. Thx for the info. Hope to see you all soon.

 

[AnimalTale]

F9 is a good place to call home. Frontier is a hidden jewel in the airlines. Pay is good, Sked are good, routes/days are easy and most importantly we have great teamwork. With all this said, we are still prone to the damages of high fuel prices. We survived 9/11 and If and when we survive this latest HUMP (fuel prices), rest assured F9 would be a great,secure, prosperous, non arrogant, fun, safe place to work.

I am glad jetsi heard we are hiring 107. I am looking forward to it.
By the way, dont get worried if you dont have a rec.. They WILL hire you without one. Also minimums are 2500tt (they will not budge), a little lower than last year.

Good Luck.

Cya

 

[USMC319]

Mins:
2500 Total Time Fixed wing (no FE, Helicopter, or SIM time)
1500 Multi-engine
500 PIC
500 Turbine/prefer jet
1st Class Med, Passport, FCC permit, etc...

This will allow the military guys in, however, competitive requirements include:
Probably at least double all those times listed above
Bachelors Degree
Extensive FMS and EFIS experience
500 hours in last 12 months
6 months experience Part 121 or 135
2 internal recommendation letters (Silver Bullets; only one per non-probationary pilot per year) from pilots who have flown with you

The interview will be an all day multiple phase event, very similar to the SWA interview (almost identical). The key is to build a relationship with the interview team and be youself.

Good luck to all.

 

[Daddy]

I got called for an interview around this time last year and I don't know anyone there...just submitted my airapps package online and got called and scheduled. Of course the interviewed was cancelled a week or two later due to the new contract that came online reducing the need for more pilots so I never got on, but it seems like a great place to be if you want to live in the Denver area.

 

[brownie]

animaltale
i'm looking for a friend of mine which i lost his number if u could let him know to contact me i sure appreciate.
his name is stephan williamson and he lives in LA
my email is [email protected]
Thanks a lot
matt

 

[Carl S.]

Animaltale,
Lots of sunshine from a former disgruntled 727 Driver, are you working on a job in management or do you have one already?

 

[USMC319]

I got called for an interview around this time last year and I don't know anyone there...just submitted my airapps package online and got called and scheduled. Of course the interviewed was cancelled a week or two later due to the new contract that came online reducing the need for more pilots so I never got on, but it seems like a great place to be if you want to live in the Denver area.

They say that they are going to call everyone that was called for an interview last year. If you are still interested, I would recommend calling Gary H. in HR and reminding him of your previous invite. It is a great place to work and well worth the wait.

 

[RJET]

Is F9 commuter friendly?

 

[USMC319]

Is F9 commuter friendly?

There is not a "commuter policy" in place yet, but we are currently in contract negotiations and hope to have a good policy in place soon, CASS too. I find the schedules and the flexibility in schedule changes to be very commuter friendly. Have not had any trouble with making a trip due to commute issues since I've been here. In fact I normally am home on the first and last day of every sequence and I live a long way away.

 

[batsky2000]

I would have to disagree, F9 has a horrible reserve system, they should have left alone the old A/B system and made it better, insted they made 5 reserve periods, and you have to bid for one of them, the problem is that the old system at least gave you a set of 4 days off, with the new system, that protection was negotiated away, now there are only 50% of the lines with that, so the most days off in a row that you will get are either 3 or 4 if you get one of those lines, and the days off while on reserve is either 11 or 12 depending if the month has 30 or 31 days.

Also, as stated before, there is no commuter policy, so if you can't make it in, you have to burn a sick day like everyone else, and the problem with F9 is that DEN is the only crew base, and there are no Alt. airports to fly into if you can't get into DEN, the only remote possible airport with limited airline service is COS, but they only have limited flights and they are an hour away

All I can say is that F9 is not that great when you consider that they have made very modest growth in recent times when you consider that JetBlue,SouthWest,Airtran, have all been expanding rapidly, while F9 has sat on the sidelines, just plan on siting reserve for a long while, and not upgrading any time soon.

 

[USMC319]

batsky2000,

Lots of poorly presented info in your post. Sounds like you know a lot about F9 Reserve and have a poor view of the company. Are you one of our recently departed (not by choice)?

Frontier had more than 40% growth in FY05 and completed a fleet transition to an all Airbus fleet. Sure there was a lull after all that and now we are begining another period of growth (100+ pilots). Granted we didn't expand as fast as the 3 airlines you mentioned above but they didn't directly compete with a bankrupt carrier on every flight either. Furthermore, with the exception of WN, I think the other 2 would have prefered not to add that much capacity given the current industry conditions. Put things in perspective and I think you will find F9 did better than most airlines in many respects.

 

[stillflyn]

batsky2000,

Lots of poorly presented info in your post. Sounds like you know a lot about F9 Reserve and have a poor view of the company. Are you one of our recently departed (not by choice)?

Frontier had more than 40% growth in FY05 and completed a fleet transition to an all Airbus fleet. Sure there was a lull after all that and now we are begining another period of growth (100+ pilots). Granted we didn't expand as fast as the 3 airlines you mentioned above but they didn't directly compete with a bankrupt carrier on every flight either. Furthermore, with the exception of WN, I think the other 2 would have prefered not to add that much capacity given the current industry conditions. Put things in perspective and I think you will find F9 did better than most airlines in many respects.

What are you talking about?

 

[batsky2000]

I left by choice, did not want to deal with the crappy reserve schedule since I commuted from PA, and the lack of growth, there is no set plan for growth there either, and they are not making any money and have very little to spend, plus the weak union that you think will make changes, are you kidding? most of the leaders are non-commuters, and have shown a lack of urgency to implement a commuter policy, I have gone to the mettings in the past and have been told many times that F9 is a den based airline, and you should have known that before you got here, so what, every one else has a friendly commuter policy in place, the union guys just don't care, and I am not the only one who has left by choice, and I am not the only one who looks at F9 this way, many do, but I am glad that you are fat dumb and happy, well there are plenty who are not

 

[jjetpilot]

I will gladly take your spot there bubba