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props8 said:
I was one that start on Monday. 10 people in the class. So far I love it, people are friendly and all instructors are great. Briefed by Head of Training and Ops that they plan to hire between 80-84 pilots. Next class said to start in Oct and then the following classes to start each month Jan - May. Delay to get current pilots retrained, etc. Told by management that interview will be more geared to find out what type of person you are instead of how many hours, experience, etc. There looking for the personality that will fit the Frontier image (whole different animal). Definitely call Gary if you had an interview. He knows how your situation and does not mind the call, I bugged him for a year. Great Company and Good luck!

Anyone in your class from ACA/IDE?

Thanks

-PB
 
Still treading water...

I too am wondering about the October class. I phoned Gary on Monday. He sounded extremely busy since he had been gone for a week, had been sick, and came back only to find his computer fried. He told me he had authorization for 20 more to start classes. He thought from memory I would fall in the Oct. class starting on the 10th. However, after I got off the phone I remembered I was number 24 in the pool and he had only used up the first 13 to fill the Sept class. That coupled with my requirement for 30 days termination notice of my current temp job prompted me to email requesting the Nov class. He wrote back that I could plan on the November start. He also wrote I would need to come in prior to accomplish the new hire processing. I left a voice message today asking Gary to let me know the exact Nov date and gave him my availability to go out to Denver. He hasn't been able to get back to me yet.

Unless I mis-read the previous reply from the guy in the Sept class, he was told the Oct class would be the last until the new hires started training in Jan? i.e. take care of all the new hires in the pool?

I wonder if it is getting too close to the wire for Frontier to fill the October class? Doesn't sound like anyone has been called yet.
 
I am also wondering whether the Oct. 10th class is going to happen. Oct 10th will be only 3 weeks away on Monday. Typically F9 begins pilot classes on Mondays with a joint company indoc with all other company new hires (ie, inflight, ramp, mgt. etc.). I know a new hire FA who is starting on the 10th. I was given 6 weeks notice for the Sept. 04 class that was canceled. I could probably still start with 2 weeks notice, but no less then that. Hopefully we'll all have an answer this next week. I'll be sure to post the minute I hear something.
 
I was called this afternoon my Gary...I am in the Nov 7th class. Excellent! I can't wait to get started! He emailed out the initial new-hire paperwork/release forms. He said the Oct 10 class is nearly filled and the Nov class is following suit. That has to be good news for a lot of people -- included the folks who've been on reserves for well over a year.
 
Anybody have any gouge on the new interview process. I read that they have gone to a LOI like SWA and FEDEX, but I haven't found any new trip reports. Thanks in advance.
 
http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_3047577

Article Launched: 09/21/2005 01:00:00 AM

Frontier grows as competitors falter, cut back
The regional carrier says it plans to have nearly 2,000 more full-time employees by 2008.
By Kelly Yamanouchi
Denver Post Staff Writer

While several large airlines falter in Chapter 11 bankruptcy, Frontier Airlines has steadily grown over the past several years and is poised to raise more cash for the future.

Denver-based Frontier has grown from 2,332 full-time equivalent employees in July 2001 to 4,117 this past July, according to figures released Tuesday by the U.S. Bureau of Transportation Statistics. The airline said it expects to have 6,000 employees by 2008.

At the same time, other carriers - such as Northwest and Delta, which filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection last week - have been gradually shrinking payrolls.

United Airlines, the largest carrier at Denver International Airport, has cut its employment base from 96,603 full- time equivalent employees in July 2001 to 54,489 in July. It also is working toward exiting a nearly three-year Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

On Monday, Frontier filed a "shelf registration" with the Securities and Exchange Commission that lays the groundwork for raising up to $250 million.

The measure allows Frontier to sell debt securities, stock and securities warrants to repay debt, buy planes or other capital equipment, prepay aircraft leases or add to working capital.
The regional carrier, which started in 1994 and is much smaller than United, Delta and Northwest, has 49 Airbus planes in its fleet.

While it has grown rapidly in past years, Frontier has said it plans more conservative growth in the near future. For example, it plans to increase its fleet to 50 planes for the fiscal year ending in March, 57 planes the next fiscal year and 62 planes the year after that.

However, Frontier also has purchase rights for another 23 Airbus planes, which present options for greater growth.

Staff writer Kelly Yamanouchi can be reached at [email protected] or 303-820-1488.
 
Frontier will be gobbled up in the wave of mergers thats about to happen. I've already heard the rumors of the "new USair" taking a hard look at them. Just a rumor but it's funny how a lot of these seem to come true...............
 
There's been mention of the 2500 TT being the only truly hard requirement. Is there any way of being hired without an ATP?
 
Absolutely no budging from any of the "hard requirements", even if you are an Airbus test pilot.

MINS:
2500 Total Time
1500 ME Fixed-Wing
500 PIC
500 Jet or Turbine

Competitive stats will probably be at least double the minimum requirements, but if you have F-16 time (fly-by-wire) you may get a shot with the minimums. Internal letters of recommendation carry the most weight by far.
 
Saabslime said:
Frontier will be gobbled up in the wave of mergers thats about to happen. I've already heard the rumors of the "new USair" taking a hard look at them. Just a rumor but it's funny how a lot of these seem to come true...............


I have heard the USAIR and Jetblue thing quit a bit also.

Another one you can have is: VIRGIN AMERICA!

Cya
 
Just got back from the interview and it was a breath of fresh air. Basically just pilots interviewing pilots. Don't worry about a gouge, three of us were there early and while waiting outside we joked about not having any idea what the day would entail and how unprepared we felt. They are looking for professionals with a positive attitude. Good luck to everyone that gets a call, you will have a great experience.

Everyone that interviewed was previously scheduled to interview last year and we all had an internal rec. Diverse and impressive group.
 
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StaySeated said:
Just got back from the interview and it was a breath of fresh air. Throughout the day you interact with about 10 Frontier people, 9 of which are pilots. Don't worry about a gouge, three of us were there early and while waiting outside we joked about not having any idea what the day would entail and how unprepared we felt. They are looking for professionals with a positive attitude. Good luck to everyone that gets a call, you will have a great experience.

Everyone that interviewed was previously scheduled to interview last year and we all had an internal rec. Diverse and impressive group.

Congrats!

HONESTLY--->BE YOURSELF. Ignore the upcoming gouges (things will change) because if u come in "canned", you are fooling yourself. You might get hired but you might not like F9. We dont want that.

STAYSEATED, is correct in the way to prepare for this meeting.


Good luck,

cya
 
From this week's Chief Pilot's "Cam-o-Gram" (newsletter) We will be interviewing 10 pilots every other week starting in October. Exact dates TBA.

Good luck!
 
What are the chances of a corporate puke such as myself getting an interview? 5000tt, 2200 jet, 1250 jet pic. Just completed the air apps forms last week. No inside recs.
 
Brett Hull said:
What are the chances of a corporate puke such as myself getting an interview? 5000tt, 2200 jet, 1250 jet pic. Just completed the air apps forms last week. No inside recs.
Your times are competitive. If you have a 4 year degree, you should be in the race, however, getting an internal recommendation is key to a quick call for an interview.
 
Thanks USMC319!

Yep. Got the degree. But my only claim-to-fame WRT the inside rec is that the guy I replaced at my current job left here when he was hired by Frontier. I even moved into the same rental house he had. Never had a chance to meet him, though. :(

Anyone know a guy with the initials D.C. who flew a Lear out of BHM before joining Frontier just under 3 years ago?
 
Is there anyone to talk to in HR about hiring? I updated a few weeks ago with all the times and an internal rec. Just curious if anyone has had a call in the past week or two.
 
For what it's worth, I interviewed 0n 8/13/04 was placed in the pool and was recently offered a class on 11/7/05. The pool should be empty now. I am happy where I am so I passed...
 
USMC319 said:
Your times are competitive. If you have a 4 year degree, you should be in the race, however, getting an internal recommendation is key to a quick call for an interview.

Thanks to all you Frontier folks for the info and tips. How key is the internal rec? I've crossed paths with alot of people over the years but not kept in touch with all of them. Is there anyway to find out who is currently empoyed at Frontier and peruse that group for any familiar names? I'm currently furloughed and flying at a fractional and in the Air Force Reserves, and I am hoping desperately to be at Frontier one day.
 
Make sure that F9 is really what you want, do your research, I have been here for almost 2 years and when I started here it was fine, but within the past year, this place has turned out to be not all that rosy any more. I will be leaving soon, so maybe you can take my spot, I got a call from the competition.
Later
 
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One more number closer to being off of reserve. HOOAH!!!!!!!

Best of luck to you, ex-nutjeter. This is no slam against you, just happy to being almost off of reserve.

BTW, you have a line or are you still on reserve also?

Jetsi
 
ex-nutjeter said:
Make sure that F9 is really what you want, do your research, I have been here for almost 2 years and when I started here it was fine, but within the past year, this place has turned out to be not all that rosy any more. I will be leaving soon, so maybe you can take my spot, I got a call from the competition.
Later

Let's see....an "ex-NUTjeter" who has previously flown 727s, 757s, 767s, etc...and now is moving on again.

Sounds like a professional malcontent to me. Take his advice and opinion with a grain of salt.
 

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