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Fly2Scuba said:
No, I'm quite sure you weren't there to see the eye to eye non-verbal voice of displeasure. Judging by your alternative lifestyle type Avatar and aircraft ratings, I'm not surprised by your attitude or reply.

aircraft ratings. your flying the same family of aircraft so what does that say about you.
 
Alternative lifestyle? Thats Gob from the TV show "Arrested Development". And hes not gay. The shows humor probably goes right over your head, so I'm not surprised that you're unfamiliar with the characters.
As far as my attitude, your probably right. I just don't care. Not about what you or anybody think. I just thought it was humorous to hear someone come on here and huff and puff about how you "have given dirty looks to a couple of Mesa guys". Just reinforces at what a big talker you are in an anonymous forum but out in the real world your pecker shrivels up and the biggest baddest thing you can muster up is a "dirty look." You,the pinnacle of everything that is a pilot, had a perfect chance to lecture them on what evil subhuman bottemfeeders they are and how they're single handedly ruining aviation. But what do you do? Nothing. That speaks wonders about you. I'm guessing you have some confidence issues. That's ok, keep telling the barflys that you're a Continential pilot. One of them will probably have pity sex with you eventually.
 
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Fly2Scuba said:
Don't be sure of yourself. I have given dirty looks to a couple Mesa guys that were acting like fraternity brothers on a hotel bus with other non-airline employees on board. The impression all to often I get is that you have to many people over there that treat this profession like it's a game and not a serious career. You cut corners in career progression, you're probably more likely to cut corners in other areas like stabilized approaches, maintenance, etc.
All I ask is that you quit defending Mesa and accept that you will be a subject of scorn until attitudes and actions and most specifically your undercutting contract changes. 8 days off on reserve and sleeping in airplanes at night to save on hotel costs is terrible and affects the whole industry including majors. It's the downward spiral; don't contribute.

Not defending Mesa as much as criticizing cowards who are afraid to tell people, face-to-face, what they really think. You're a shining case-in-point. In that van, you obviously thought that the Mesa crew treated their career as a game. You therefore owed it to the flying public to let them know it! BUT... you didn't. You are, therefore, another link in the chain leading to their inevitable mishap(s). AND...nothing but a coward.
 
sweptback said:
I saw them in the crew lounge once. Everybody gave them the evil eye and they eventually left. Haven't seen them back since.
Did they have SIDA badges? If not, they are not supposed to be outside the "footprint of their airplane" or in the terminal. Report them, write them up. We don't make the rules but we are responsible for keeping people without SIDA badges from running amok in the ATL airport.
 
outtahere said:
Boy you little b!tches talk alot of sh!t on this board, get your little chicken sh!t a$$es out of your planes and come in the crew room for the welcome to ATL that you whores deserve.
See above, if they are outside the footprint of their airplane, escort them back to a secure area and write it up. Anyone know if the airport still does the cash bonus for catching interlopers in the secure areas? If so, I'm hunting for $20 bills.
 
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Sinca3 said:
Like everyone on here has been saying...Not one crew has had the guts to show their face around anyone in ATL. I know exactely what I am going to say to the first MAG crew I see in ATL. Hope they take it like a man.

This is leaving me wanting more, please dont make me wait till I'm in ATL, so ... What are you going to say?

I promise to take it like a man if thats what you prefer.
 
DashCojones said:
Not defending Mesa as much as criticizing cowards who are afraid to tell people, face-to-face, what they really think. You're a shining case-in-point. In that van, you obviously thought that the Mesa crew treated their career as a game. You therefore owed it to the flying public to let them know it! BUT... you didn't. You are, therefore, another link in the chain leading to their inevitable mishap(s). AND...nothing but a coward.
Uh-huh, creating a confrontation in public is a great way to further the profession (aka professional). I don't think so. I've witnessed pilots exchanging words in a public site (curbside at the airport) and it's one of the dumbest, amusing, and unprofessional things I've ever witnessed. Plus, I wouldn't risk a career on creating a public disturbance because some unstable individual couldn't handle the truth.
I have respect for those at there that will put their energy towards creating a positive image of pilots and to creating a better career environment through contract gains. What I don't respect is people that pretend like Mesa isn't a plague on the industry or that it's just a "regional". Regional flying means going from New York to Albany, not New York to Kansas City.

With all that said, yea minus this post, my previous are written at pre-professional level. However,
a) this is the internet and accept it for being a communication medium to voice displeasure without much regard to language or ambience. This is one of the few posts that ignores this aspect
b) part of all this effort is in some way create an environment where guys have second thoughts for reason about going to a "regional" that treats people like crap. A lower supply of pilots willing to work at an airline can help create a situation in which that airline will need to reconsider it's work environment if it wants to attract professionals. Better contract!
c) I really hate the fact that friends of mine were forced to switch airlines/bases because they were underbid by Mesa and I hate the fact that we almost lost flying because of of Chataqua.
 
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Fly2Scuba said:
Uh-huh, creating a confrontation in public is a great way to further the profession (aka professional). I don't think so. I've witnessed pilots exchanging words in a public site (curbside at the airport) and it's one of the dumbest, amusing, and unprofessional things I've ever witnessed. Plus, I wouldn't risk a career on creating a public disturbance because some unstable individual couldn't handle the truth.
I have respect for those at there that will put their energy towards creating a positive image of pilots and to creating a better career environment through contract gains. What I don't respect is people that pretend like Mesa isn't a plague on the industry or that it's just a "regional". Regional flying means going from New York to Albany, not New York to Kansas City.

With all that said, yea minus this post, my previous are written at pre-professional level. However,
a) this is the internet and accept it for being a communication medium to voice displeasure without much regard to language or ambience. This is one of the few posts that ignores this aspect
b) part of all this effort is in some way create an environment where guys have second thoughts for reason about going to a "regional" that treats people like crap. A lower supply of pilots willing to work at an airline can help create a situation in which that airline will need to reconsider it's work environment if it wants to attract professionals. Better contract!
c) I really hate the fact that friends of mine were forced to switch airlines/bases because they were underbid by Mesa and I hate the fact that we almost lost flying because of of Chataqua.

You don't get it do you!
Regionals do not decide what routes they fly(lets see-EWR-OKC, sound familiar) they are meant to be a stepping stone, not a retirement job
you obviously work for a regional(aka, Express Jet) and you should know that these things you are saying are repetitive and very boring, business is business that is just the way things work, whether it is this industry or another, suck it up or get out to free up a spot for someone who really wants to be here and not complain about it.
 
CFIse said:
You're in the wrong place, you want the door further down. We're not interested in logic or facts or reason here - we just want to be childish and throw names around. If you're going to go around spouting facts you're just going to spoil it for the rest of us.

My bad. Let's continue with the bashing. Why don't we just bash everyone that flys the United Express banner...mesa, bojets, chq, tsa, skywest and don't forget little colgan.

Screw it! Let's just bash everyone with silver stripes but dang, guess we have to include ASA in that one. Ok, how about gold stripers. Wait, we can't do that cuz Xjet and CMR have those. Oh well, guess we'll go with the blue stripers, only one of those.
 
Fltlvls said:
You don't get it do you!
Regionals do not decide what routes they fly(lets see-EWR-OKC, sound familiar) they are meant to be a stepping stone, not a retirement job
you obviously work for a regional(aka, Express Jet) and you should know that these things you are saying are repetitive and very boring, business is business that is just the way things work, whether it is this industry or another, suck it up or get out to free up a spot for someone who really wants to be here and not complain about it.

No, you sir are the one that doesn't get it. "Regionals" are flying longer and longer routes with larger and larger aircraft. The attitude that it's just a stepping stone to fly for a "regional" is misguided when one is flying major airline type flying already. I'm also looking to move on; yet I realize that major airline flying, quality of life, and opportunities are on shaky ground partly due to the so called "regionals". At least put the effort into creating descent pay and work rules so the gap between major contract and "regional" contract isn't so wide. Or else the degradation of the industry will continue as the
a) majors outsource jobs to a low "regional" bidder. Last time I checked the vast majority of furloughed pilots were from major airlines while the "regionals" continued their expansion.
b) majors contine to ask the pilot groups for concessions to match the much lower bar set by short sighted pilots because many of the routes could easily be replaced by CRJ-900, etc. The very reason for going to major in the first place takes a big hit.

Understand.
 
Fly2Scuba said:
No, you sir are the one that doesn't get it. "Regionals" are flying longer and longer routes with larger and larger aircraft. The attitude that it's just a stepping stone to fly for a "regional" is misguided when one is flying major airline type flying already. I'm also looking to move on; yet I realize that major airline flying, quality of life, and opportunities are on shaky ground partly due to the so called "regionals". At least put the effort into creating descent pay and work rules so the gap between major contract and "regional" contract isn't so wide. Or else the degradation of the industry will continue as the
a) majors outsource jobs to a low "regional" bidder. Last time I checked the vast majority of furloughed pilots were from major airlines while the "regionals" continued their expansion.
b) majors contine to ask the pilot groups for concessions to match the much lower bar set by short sighted pilots because many of the routes could easily be replaced by CRJ-900, etc. The very reason for going to major in the first place takes a big hit.

Understand.

Look at it this way, if you dress up a pig, in the end you still have a pig, same as the regionals if they fly the same or similar routes as the majors they are still considered" Regionals" in the end

as far as outsourcing-if your company was bleeding money wouldn't you look for ways to cut costs such as looking for someone to do the same job for less

If you get a chance read the book NUTS! the story is about SWA, if all major airlines actually did the things that SWA does and actually stuck to them , then they would be in much better shape

if you think regional guys should get paid the same as some guy at the majors just because they fly the same or similar routes , then you are dreaming.

Understand
 
Taco Rocket said:
Just a matter of time before ATL is a base.

I can't wait!

Where is that crew room again?

Until it is, stay in your airplanes footprint or we'll have to bust 'yo az :uzi: with Hartsfield Harry. Sweet, $50 for me.;)
 

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