Freedom/Mesa/Chicken Taco WHORES....In ATL?

[zawillif]

And I wonder why you arent calling Jetblu and SW names when they are the root cause for most of this, they are the ones driving the Legacy carriers to make drastic changes to compete!!! geezzz man give it a rest and check into Detox!!!

Uhhhhh. jetblu? who knows. southwest? they only have the best contract in the industry. a 12 year captain on the 737 for southwest makes more than almost any other 12 year captain flying any widebody in america.

 

[JohnnyP]

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This thread pretty much sums up why I am so excited to be leaving the regional airline world very shortly. I have accepted a job overseas, and cannot wait to leave this sophmore, busch league bulls***. You all can have it. Good riddens.

JohnnyP

 

[Slice121]

Who and why would anyone want to even apply for a job with FREEDOM? When I hear your whinney little voices on the raido in ATL I try to imagine what went through your brain before you accepted a job at an airline that UNDERCUT THE MESA CONTRACT. If you are undercutting MESA you have some serious ego issues... "I just want to fly a jet" F ING WHORE

Only a moron starts an argument without having the facts...there is no longer any difference between a Freedom, Air Midwest, and Mesa as far as the pilots go. Same contract and seniority list. The original Freedom pilots, known as "A-listers" or F.A.G.s(Freedom A Guy/Gal)are all back on the Mesa side of the operation...there may be one or two over there still. Freedom is ERJ's now. The alter-ego started with CRJs. But, it's only been over two years since Mesa recaptured the Freedom flying, so I can totally understand how such an informed pilot couldn't have figured it out by now.
There's a list of the FAGs out there. You're pissed at the wrong guys when you speak of current Freedom guys. Many are being junior assigned into that system anyway. Hopefully you'll pull you're head out of your a$$ before you upgrade. Get back to me then, Skippy.

 

[EMBPLT]

Finally someone with some real facts and logic.

 

[DashCojones]

Who and why would anyone want to even apply for a job with FREEDOM? When I hear your whinney little voices on the raido in ATL I try to imagine what went through your brain before you accepted a job at an airline that UNDERCUT THE MESA CONTRACT. If you are undercutting MESA you have some serious ego issues... "I just want to fly a jet" F ING WHORE

Idiot.

 

[UCF Aviator]

Uhhhhh. jetblu? who knows. southwest? they only have the best contract in the industry. a 12 year captain on the 737 for southwest makes more than almost any other 12 year captain flying any widebody in america.

What.....? think about what you just wrote here and maybe you will figure out why the industry is the way it is today. If swa and jet blue weren't around today the other major airlines would be in a much better financial condition because they would have a lot more price control. But that is competition and the free market. Nothing against jet blue or swa, they are great airlines. Competition, as you should know, also plays a big part in what regionals get the contracts over other regionals. Furthermore, there is not always a direct relationship between pilot compensation and the cost of a regional airlines service. There are many other factors at play that determine the price of the contract such as corporate structure, mgmt strategy,etc, that have nothing to do w/ pilot compensation. In addition, price is not always the leading factor in the awarding of a contract, quality is key as well, a.k.a. chq & cal contract.

 

[fried chickens]

Who and why would anyone want to even apply for a job with FREEDOM? When I hear your whinney little voices on the raido in ATL I try to imagine what went through your brain before you accepted a job at an airline that UNDERCUT THE MESA CONTRACT. If you are undercutting MESA you have some serious ego issues... "I just want to fly a jet" F ING WHORE

They don't apply for a job at Freedom. It's all one senority list and the company assigns a/c so if you get the erj, you're going Freedom side. As I understand it, they tend to send folks from Florida to Freedom so they can at least be based in their home state.

 

[skylane242]

I saw them in the crew lounge once. Everybody gave them the evil eye and they eventually left. Haven't seen them back since.

That crew room must be a blast to hang out in.... Where is it at?

 

[bustinmins]

mesa/bojets/shtaco/shuttle/repubic all can burn in hell, and the asshats that draged ALL of our pay down. you guys are true slut whores.. you have destroyed many lifes. when you look in the mirror you must see a huge smelly log of crap. congats dirtbags

I'm feeling the love!

 

[bustinmins]

If I have said it once, I've said it a hundred times. Any time you blame another pilot for your situation, you are being managements little bitch. It's just that simple.

One thing that I'm happy we have at Mesa is a scope agreement. Mind you, scope protection agreements aren't always rock solid but ours is holding nicely. What does that mean to you? It means at contract time Mesa will be represented by one unified pilot group that will not have to worry about a whip saw during negotiations. What does that mean? It means one unified group, one unified stance - one much improved contract with a focus on pay and quality of life issues.

Maybe if you had achieved scope in the last round of negotiations, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now. Hmmm - whodathunkit?

 

[PayMeNOW]

First post..... Mesa guys are really defensive..... go to hell and get out of atl.

 

[PayMeNOW]

oh yeah bl and ct suck!

 

[Fltlvls]

First post..... Mesa guys are really defensive..... go to hell and get out of atl.

Seems like you are the one getting defensive about them flying into ATL
Do you open your big mouth to your management about where you are going to be flying into or out of?
With that attitude, GOOD LUCK GETTING A JUMPSEAT!, that is unless you are too proud to ask.

 

[fried chickens]

since when did mesa have a base in ATL? They shouldn't be allowed to do out and backs there? Then ASA and Comair shouldn't do out and back to IAD or Skywest shouldn't do out and backs to MEM or 9E shouldn't go to IAH...

No one seems to be complaining that Airtran has a base there or that Southwest popping up everywhere. Should Virgin and BA be upset that Maxjet is flying to England? Should Mexicana or Aero Mexico be pi$$ off that Xjet does a lot of flights to mexico?

 

[hockeypilot44]

the mesa pilots don't have a choice where they fly. delta decides that. don't hate the player. hate the coach which is delta. get off your god dam high horse and reallize that you are no better than these other pilot groups. it's funny how comair pilots bash mesa, when most junior comair pilots are from the academy. where are most academy grads going now? mesa. if you guys graduated now, you would probably be at mesa also. give these kids a break. we all want the same thing. would i ever go to mesa or go jets? no, but i'm not going to treat these pilots like dog ******************** just because they make a little less than comair and asa

 

[urflyingme?!]

Whoever the guy is who made that first dumbass post can kiss my white hairy a$$. I think I'll apply for a transfer to the 145 just so I can fly into ATL and sit in the crew room all effing day...

On a more serious note, those guys flying on the F-Bomb side really don't have much more of a choice as to where they go than I do about my soon to be real displacement to CLT. IN FACT a lot of them are getting overide pay because they can already hold a better slot somewhere else in the company, but are being held back.

Bottom line, you're an idiot.

 

[CFIse]

since when did mesa have a base in ATL? They shouldn't be allowed to do out and backs there? Then ASA and Comair shouldn't do out and back to IAD or Skywest shouldn't do out and backs to MEM or 9E shouldn't go to IAH...

No one seems to be complaining that Airtran has a base there or that Southwest popping up everywhere. Should Virgin and BA be upset that Maxjet is flying to England? Should Mexicana or Aero Mexico be pi$$ off that Xjet does a lot of flights to mexico?

You're in the wrong place, you want the door further down. We're not interested in logic or facts or reason here - we just want to be childish and throw names around. If you're going to go around spouting facts you're just going to spoil it for the rest of us.

 

[Sinca3]

You MAG pilots are on one list....great. You will be one voice during the next negotiations.....Great! Remember this, and try to grow a set and not be the lowest paid pilots in the industry. When you have done that, everyone else will start to leave you alone. Until then you are the MAGots of the industry.

 

[outtahere]

Boy you little b!tches talk alot of sh!t on this board, get your little chicken sh!t a$$es out of your planes and come in the crew room for the welcome to ATL that you whores deserve. By the way, only a person with no self respect goes to the worst airline in the country just to get ahead. I'm sure prostitutes are real nice people, but fuking for money is a degrading subhuman act! Bottom line we all had a choice to make and you made yours, now live with the consequenses.

 

[Fly2Scuba]

F the Mesa Group. The true slimeballs of the industry along with S**taco.

 

[Cadillac]

Agreed

UCF Aviator, you had me until you mentioned quality of operation goes into the decision of who gets the flying, (chq and CAL). In what way is chq more of a quality carrier than Expressjet? Where you referring to Cal's choice of chq over an even scummier operator, like mesa or goatjets?

Bustinmins, it seems that more and more I am hearing this argument "don't hate the player (the pilots of undercutting airline) hate the game (undercutting airline's management)." It seems I hear it the most from the pilots who are getting picked on for working at undercutting regionals.

While I agree with you it dilutes our bargaining power when we fight amongst ourselves, a major portion of the blame rests with the pilots who voted for those substandard contracts and the kids who run to fly for said airline knowing it has substandard pay and rules but hope to "get there time and get out".
I will hate all day.

 

[Traumahawk]

F the Mesa Group. The true slimeballs of the industry along with S**taco.

I'm sure all the 600 hour wonders you guys would run classes full of, every 5 minutes, are just sterling examples of professionalism.

What a dork.

 

[DashCojones]

Question: How many of you so-called Mesa haters have ever actually approached a Mesa pilot and told him how you feel? I'll bet none. I spent some time in that hell-forsaken place and not ONCE did I catch any flack, or even a dirty look from another pilot. Nothing but pleasant experiences. I think before you tough guys earn the right to talk crap on flighinfo, you should grow some street cred and actually look someone in the eye with your complaints.

 

[Sinca3]

Question: How many of you so-called Mesa haters have ever actually approached a Mesa pilot and told him how you feel? I'll bet none. I spent some time in that hell-forsaken place and not ONCE did I catch any flack, or even a dirty look from another pilot. Nothing but pleasant experiences. I think before you tough guys earn the right to talk crap on flighinfo, you should grow some street cred and actually look someone in the eye with your complaints.

Like everyone on here has been saying...Not one crew has had the guts to show their face around anyone in ATL. I know exactely what I am going to say to the first MAG crew I see in ATL. Hope they take it like a man.

 

[The Drizzle]

Like everyone on here has been saying...Not one crew has had the guts to show their face around anyone in ATL. I know exactely what I am going to say to the first MAG crew I see in ATL. Hope they take it like a man.

I'm calling Bullsh!t on you unless you bring a camcorder along.






on second thought, do these guys even have enough time to leave their aircraft? what are the turns like out of ATL? long sits?

 

[pilot772]

You MAG pilots are on one list....great. You will be one voice during the next negotiations.....Great! Remember this, and try to grow a set and not be the lowest paid pilots in the industry. When you have done that, everyone else will start to leave you alone. Until then you are the MAGots of the industry.

With unity and support like that Why wouldn't mesa pilots take yet another lowball contract to aquire a bunch of new flying to put more pilots out of jobs. with out any external support from other pilot groups things will never change.

 

[Fly2Scuba]

Question: How many of you so-called Mesa haters have ever actually approached a Mesa pilot and told him how you feel? I'll bet none. I spent some time in that hell-forsaken place and not ONCE did I catch any flack, or even a dirty look from another pilot. Nothing but pleasant experiences. I think before you tough guys earn the right to talk crap on flighinfo, you should grow some street cred and actually look someone in the eye with your complaints.

Don't be sure of yourself. I have given dirty looks to a couple Mesa guys that were acting like fraternity brothers on a hotel bus with other non-airline employees on board. The impression all to often I get is that you have to many people over there that treat this profession like it's a game and not a serious career. You cut corners in career progression, you're probably more likely to cut corners in other areas like stabilized approaches, maintenance, etc.
All I ask is that you quit defending Mesa and accept that you will be a subject of scorn until attitudes and actions and most specifically your undercutting contract changes. 8 days off on reserve and sleeping in airplanes at night to save on hotel costs is terrible and affects the whole industry including majors. It's the downward spiral; don't contribute.

 

[Corbon]

Whoooo...dirty looks! (probably when they weren't even looking). You really showed them!

 

[Fly2Scuba]

delete - posted twice

 

[Fly2Scuba]

Whoooo...dirty looks! (probably when they weren't even looking). You really showed them!

No, I'm quite sure you weren't there to see the eye to eye non-verbal voice of displeasure. Judging by your alternative lifestyle type Avatar and aircraft ratings, I'm not surprised by your attitude or reply.