Freedom/Mesa/Chicken Taco WHORES....In ATL?

[Cadillac]

While we should focus more of our ire against management, I believe people with the "get there first" mentality that accept these crappy jobs deserve every bit of the insults they receive. If you go to a place with crappy pay and workrules, knowing they have crappy pay and workrules, then you should expect to be looked down upon.

Leave the CFI alone. He's probably holding out for a GOOD job, unlike you who went to mesa because it was the first airline that called you. He's part of the solution.

 

[Pattern-Master]

While we should focus more of our ire against management, I believe people with the "get there first" mentality that accept these crappy jobs deserve every bit of the insults they receive. If you go to a place with crappy pay and workrules, knowing they have crappy pay and workrules, then you should expect to be looked down upon.

Leave the CFI alone. He's probably holding out for a GOOD job, unlike you who went to mesa because it was the first airline that called you. He's part of the solution.

Ding, Ding, we have a winner. Yes sir you are correct. Not every CFI when they hit 1,000 hours runs out the door to go fly for who ever, especially not Mesa! I did hold out and now I'm glad I did. Thank you.

 

[ground stop]

we should focus more of our ire against management
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the only way to do that is not to go work for these sketchy companies.

 

[EMBPLT]

mesa/bojets/shtaco/shuttle/repubic all can burn in hell, and the asshats that draged ALL of our pay down. you guys are true slut whores.. you have destroyed many lifes. when you look in the mirror you must see a huge smelly log of crap. congats dirtbags

You are so full of Sh*t! Look up the pay rates. They are all within a dollar or two of each other. Do your homework.

 

[dvmthwsvan]

cant we all get along!! btw you want some cheese for that whine!! seems as usuall the hate is directed to the people like you that are trying to make a living and not the bean counters and some rich b%#tard making his life better while those of us bust our B%#ls, nice way to act!! And your a professional? sound more like a kid. Growup its the reality of the industry more for less is the name of the game, all businesses are going that way, why should it be any differant for the airlines?
Its funny how you think you own ATL you dont own crap and someday you might realize that We all in the industry suffer because of the head D*&Ks, and mesa and others do as well It doesnt take a degree to figure out that we are all in the same damm boat And I wonder why you arent calling Jetblu and SW names when they are the root cause for most of this, they are the ones driving the Legacy carriers to make drastic changes to compete!!! geezzz man give it a rest and check into Detox!!!

and that is why you say your current position is "bending over 4 da man"

 

[dvmthwsvan]

It must be hard on all you fking mesa whores to call times when every xmission is blocked! Childish yes, but oh so much fun. I hope all you fkers go home and and can't look at yourselves in the mirror for being such a bitch.

Just curious, is that why they have changed with different freq's now for times and a different one for in range. Or whatever they are for now, i still dont understand.

 

[AviatorTx]

You are so full of Sh*t! Look up the pay rates. They are all within a dollar or two of each other. Do your homework.

Another sign of one not knowing what they are talking about is focusing on rates. It is all four cornerstones of the contract, that make the contract. Rates are but one corner. Without the other three, you don't have squat.

 

[zawillif]

I wonder if Mesa/Freedom will bitch when they get undercut by Chinese pilots who will work for 5 dollars less an hour.


Btw has anyone seen them outside their planes? Every time I walk by I look and I havn't seen any crew members.

 

[RollinOnMy22sYo]

And I wonder why you arent calling Jetblu and SW names when they are the root cause for most of this, they are the ones driving the Legacy carriers to make drastic changes to compete!!!

Oh yeah, dem RJ's be so badass competition for dem SWA 737's, 'for ya know's it, dem Mesa RJ's gonna be all over SWA, yeah dat's it.

 

[sweptback]

Btw has anyone seen them outside their planes? Every time I walk by I look and I havn't seen any crew members.

I saw them in the crew lounge once. Everybody gave them the evil eye and they eventually left. Haven't seen them back since.

 

[zawillif]

And I wonder why you arent calling Jetblu and SW names when they are the root cause for most of this, they are the ones driving the Legacy carriers to make drastic changes to compete!!! geezzz man give it a rest and check into Detox!!!

Uhhhhh. jetblu? who knows. southwest? they only have the best contract in the industry. a 12 year captain on the 737 for southwest makes more than almost any other 12 year captain flying any widebody in america.

 

[JohnnyP]

....

This thread pretty much sums up why I am so excited to be leaving the regional airline world very shortly. I have accepted a job overseas, and cannot wait to leave this sophmore, busch league bulls***. You all can have it. Good riddens.

JohnnyP

 

[Slice121]

Who and why would anyone want to even apply for a job with FREEDOM? When I hear your whinney little voices on the raido in ATL I try to imagine what went through your brain before you accepted a job at an airline that UNDERCUT THE MESA CONTRACT. If you are undercutting MESA you have some serious ego issues... "I just want to fly a jet" F ING WHORE

Only a moron starts an argument without having the facts...there is no longer any difference between a Freedom, Air Midwest, and Mesa as far as the pilots go. Same contract and seniority list. The original Freedom pilots, known as "A-listers" or F.A.G.s(Freedom A Guy/Gal)are all back on the Mesa side of the operation...there may be one or two over there still. Freedom is ERJ's now. The alter-ego started with CRJs. But, it's only been over two years since Mesa recaptured the Freedom flying, so I can totally understand how such an informed pilot couldn't have figured it out by now.
There's a list of the FAGs out there. You're pissed at the wrong guys when you speak of current Freedom guys. Many are being junior assigned into that system anyway. Hopefully you'll pull you're head out of your a$$ before you upgrade. Get back to me then, Skippy.

 

[EMBPLT]

Finally someone with some real facts and logic.

 

[DashCojones]

Who and why would anyone want to even apply for a job with FREEDOM? When I hear your whinney little voices on the raido in ATL I try to imagine what went through your brain before you accepted a job at an airline that UNDERCUT THE MESA CONTRACT. If you are undercutting MESA you have some serious ego issues... "I just want to fly a jet" F ING WHORE

Idiot.

 

[UCF Aviator]

Uhhhhh. jetblu? who knows. southwest? they only have the best contract in the industry. a 12 year captain on the 737 for southwest makes more than almost any other 12 year captain flying any widebody in america.

What.....? think about what you just wrote here and maybe you will figure out why the industry is the way it is today. If swa and jet blue weren't around today the other major airlines would be in a much better financial condition because they would have a lot more price control. But that is competition and the free market. Nothing against jet blue or swa, they are great airlines. Competition, as you should know, also plays a big part in what regionals get the contracts over other regionals. Furthermore, there is not always a direct relationship between pilot compensation and the cost of a regional airlines service. There are many other factors at play that determine the price of the contract such as corporate structure, mgmt strategy,etc, that have nothing to do w/ pilot compensation. In addition, price is not always the leading factor in the awarding of a contract, quality is key as well, a.k.a. chq & cal contract.

 

[fried chickens]

Who and why would anyone want to even apply for a job with FREEDOM? When I hear your whinney little voices on the raido in ATL I try to imagine what went through your brain before you accepted a job at an airline that UNDERCUT THE MESA CONTRACT. If you are undercutting MESA you have some serious ego issues... "I just want to fly a jet" F ING WHORE

They don't apply for a job at Freedom. It's all one senority list and the company assigns a/c so if you get the erj, you're going Freedom side. As I understand it, they tend to send folks from Florida to Freedom so they can at least be based in their home state.

 

[skylane242]

I saw them in the crew lounge once. Everybody gave them the evil eye and they eventually left. Haven't seen them back since.

That crew room must be a blast to hang out in.... Where is it at?

 

[bustinmins]

mesa/bojets/shtaco/shuttle/repubic all can burn in hell, and the asshats that draged ALL of our pay down. you guys are true slut whores.. you have destroyed many lifes. when you look in the mirror you must see a huge smelly log of crap. congats dirtbags

I'm feeling the love!

 

[bustinmins]

If I have said it once, I've said it a hundred times. Any time you blame another pilot for your situation, you are being managements little bitch. It's just that simple.

One thing that I'm happy we have at Mesa is a scope agreement. Mind you, scope protection agreements aren't always rock solid but ours is holding nicely. What does that mean to you? It means at contract time Mesa will be represented by one unified pilot group that will not have to worry about a whip saw during negotiations. What does that mean? It means one unified group, one unified stance - one much improved contract with a focus on pay and quality of life issues.

Maybe if you had achieved scope in the last round of negotiations, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now. Hmmm - whodathunkit?