FlexJet lays off 25 pilots

[brokeflyer]

wow.....ya just got knocked da fck out!!!

 

[RossTwivel]

Its Beyond me!!

There were actually guys that took early retirement?? I really hope the 8 or 12 65+ and the few 72+ year olds would step up and do the right thing here. I mean if you're over 70 and still continue to work after this layoff--THAT IS JUST WRONG. Not to mention, at 72, you shouldn't be here anyway.

How you beat out millions of other sperm just to be here.

 

[Propilot77]

I never said we wouldn't layoff, I just pointed out that in you entire life, you've never had, and never will have, even the slightest shred of credibility or knowledge sufficient to ask anyone to "believe" you on anything related to aviation. You act as though you are the authority on NJ, yet you are a clearly just another underachieving hack only looking to revel in someone else's misery just to make yourself feel like less of a failure in life. It's weaklings and cowards like you that turn people away from these boards.

For the record, I don't subscribe to the supposed "superiority" complex of NJ that some on this board have shown. To me, this is still just a job. I don't consider it better or worse than any other job. It works for me and my family, and that's all that matters.

Now run along little guy...get back to your flight instructing!

Go ahead Nacho, tell them everything you know. It'll only take 10 seconds! Look at my posts this the 1st and only time I have ever said anything about Netjets. It's a good company. Your just the kind of Person that you could use as a blueprint to build an idiot! Sounds like Mama never gave you a hug in life! First off your right, I am not the authority in anything other than to someone like yourself, in denial, to whats really happenening out there! I have several friends that work there and I actually have had great conversations on the road with all the Netjets guys I have come in contact with other than yourself! Actually its someone like you who discourages people from these boards by jumping down peoples throat. But you know what, my little 172 will still fly faster than that wannabe jet you call a Citation! Now Get that Citation out of the way and stop slowing the rest of the aviation world down... Grow up Dude!

 

[fischman]

I would much rather fly with a 'older' person beside me than a 30 something dumb******************** ex airline FO who has now got his first captain job.

I hope I never have to fly with you dooker, you sound like a real fun guy to sit beside!

goodluck with your attitude.

Hey!?! Not all of us are that bad.

Have we flown together??? :erm:


Sorry to hear about the layoffs at Flex. Good luck to us all.

 

[Sparse]

There were actually guys that took early retirement?? I really hope the 8 or 12 65+ and the few 72+ year olds would step up and do the right thing here. I mean if you're over 70 and still continue to work after this layoff--THAT IS JUST WRONG. Not to mention, at 72, you shouldn't be here anyway.

Why is someone always trying to run someone elses life. Why are there 70+ year olds working at Walmart? What does doing the "right thing" mean? What does the guy's wife think the "right thing" is? What does his retirement account think the "right thing" is? A 72 year old is under no obligation to leave a job that some 20 or 30 year old thinks they are entitled to. I am sorry people get layed off but it's no reason for someone senior to them to step asside regardless off their age.

 

[Sparse]

I could care less what situation THEY are in. They've HAD a LIFETIME. Most of them 35+ years at the airlines or elsewhere. Why should I suffer because they are ignorant with their finances or they just "LOVE FLYING"? They are grandparents for christ sake. I DO know what situation I'll be in at that age which is exactly why we wouldn't be having this conversation if it were me that was 70 because I have ethical values and morals. I know some of these guys and none of them are here because they HAVE to be. The ETHICAL thing to do here is to let someone who is starting their career have the opportunity they did. They have had their chance, step aside and save someone's family that HAS a future, from turmoil. It IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

If you are so smart and have it all figured out, why might I ask are you in avaition?

 

[NachoMamma]

A swing and a miss!

But you know what, my little 172 will still fly faster than that wannabe jet you call a Citation!

Wow. That was pretty weak...even for you. Yet another reason why parents shouldn't let their children use the internet unsupervised.

 

[lowspeed]

Wow. That was pretty weak...even for you. Yet another reason why parents shouldn't let their children use the internet unsupervised.

Like clubing a baby seal too easy.

 

[Nolife]

Is it the Inuit that push their old people out to sea on ice flows; maybe we could start that down here for asinine posters?

I don't think there are more than a handful of over 65 guys at Flex so their leaving wouldn't save too much.

To bad management didn't seek other options like reducing days worked or something before layoffs. Wonder what other departments are getting reduced as well?

 

[fischman]

But you know what, my little 172 will still fly faster than that wannabe jet you call a Citation!

Like the Citation X?

 

[MovingTarget]

When you were Dookers age and knew everything?

One thing is indesputable.

In my case, I'm 52, I've been every age between where myself and Dooker are.

He has no clue (nor did I, nor you, or anyone else) what will happen to him in the future.

You young guys are alright really.

Someday you will (if you are lucky) pick up the "baton" from us and be old guys.

I hope your man enough to admit what a fool you were in 2009.

Have a good one.

Hello Bill,

I miss flying with you you crusty little...thing . Wish you were still at Flex. The place isn't the same without you.
Glad you found greener pastures you Army Puke.:beer:

Hope all the kids are fine.


Cheers.

 

[ArtVandalay]

The old farts I refer to are the ones that OPENLY admit they DO NOT NEED TO WORK. Jeez, you netjet guys are a bunch of whiners. Grab your backpacks and go download some more Spears.

AND as far as "doing the right thing"; If I'm 70 years old, don't need to work for financial reasons, I would proudfully retire early if it meant saving ANYONE'S JOB. It is the ethical thing to do and since you netjet guys only think of yourselves, look it up in the dictionary you pricks.

 

[imacdog]

There certainly is one person I've read doing a lot of whining on this thread.

 

[realityman]

Sorry Art, if you can't make your own way in the world without asking others to get out of your way, maybe you should look into another professional.

It is NOT ethical to quit your job just because someone else wants it. It has nothing to do with whether a person NEEDS the work. If they WANT to keep working, and can pass the checkrides and medicals, then they should keep working.

Your attitude of entitlement is disgusting. You're obviously one of the SNAP's mentioned in other posts (look it up with the search function if you don't know what it stands for you lazy whiner). And your level of intellect is readily apparent based on your usage of name-calling to try to make your point.

If you'd like to engage in a respectful dialogue on the subject, I'll be happy to continue.

Otherwise, there's no incentive to try and discuss anything with someone so full of themselves,and casting such disdain on another group because they're exercising their right to continue to be a productive member of society, regardless of whether they financially need the work or not.

Did it ever occur to your little me-centric way of thinking that perhaps the older guys NEED to keep working for reasons other than financial? Generally speaking, it's been shown that people maintain higher levels of physical and mental capacity when they stay engaged with work, family, and friends, instead of sitting around in retirement trying to come up with things to do.

Good on 'em!!

 

[imacdog]

Double post

 

[gunfyter]

Art is on to something...

Diesel doesn't need to work ... and he is in his 30's...

He could retire and open up a seat in the G-IV.

Buy a share of marquis card and save a couple of pilot jobs....

C'mon Diesel.... Sell that King Air and get a QS.

 

[TurboHonda]

The old farts I refer to are the ones that OPENLY admit they DO NOT NEED TO WORK. Jeez, you netjet guys are a bunch of whiners. Grab your backpacks and go download some more Spears.

AND as far as "doing the right thing"; If I'm 70 years old, don't need to work for financial reasons, I would proudfully retire early if it meant saving ANYONE'S JOB. It is the ethical thing to do and since you netjet guys only think of yourselves, look it up in the dictionary you pricks.

Sorry, Art, but you’re losing this argument. Even with your conditional back-peddling, you still come across as a brat. Your use of the word ethical rings pretty hollow and I suspect your own ethics are somewhat selective.

I have flown with a lot of prosperous young men that didn’t need their flying job to make a living. I don’t recall anyone questioning their right to be flying. So what’s the big difference, if it’s not age prejudice?

Your statements about what you would do if you were 70 are meaningless. They cost you nothing now and nothing later.

 

[Pervis]

The old farts I refer to are the ones that OPENLY admit they DO NOT NEED TO WORK. Jeez, you netjet guys are a bunch of whiners. Grab your backpacks and go download some more Spears.

AND as far as "doing the right thing"; If I'm 70 years old, don't need to work for financial reasons, I would proudfully retire early if it meant saving ANYONE'S JOB. It is the ethical thing to do and since you netjet guys only think of yourselves, look it up in the dictionary you pricks.

Maybe you should use that dictionary you mention. Where did you come up with the word "proudfully"? Last time I checked, tax paying citizens are allowed to do what they please in this country. As long as it's legal. If you want to quit at 70, or even 7-as you don't appear that old yet-and are able to, go for it.

Don't dictate to anyone else simply because it's what you believe though. Go interview with Hugo Chavez or Putin and maybe you'll get to dictate more than you ever dreamed of. From the inside of a nice warm gulag.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Art is on to something...

Diesel doesn't need to work ... and he is in his 30's...

He could retire and open up a seat in the G-IV.

Buy a share of marquis card and save a couple of pilot jobs....

C'mon Diesel.... Sell that King Air and get a QS.

Then why the he!! didn't he buy a couple weeks ago at KB's in Savanny?:beer: Poor RTRHD got stuck with most of the bill and he's paying off the ex!

 

[gunfyter]

Great thing about him ...

He wouldn't want to make you feel like you weren't in the same class as him....