Extraneous useless radio phrases

[WSurf]

Above FL180? No visual separation allowed up there.

True, I stand corrected. I guess I am new to the buisness.... LOL

But really, we hear all kinds of crap on the radio. If it bothers you then thats just sad, because there isn't anything you can do about it.

Just look at your FO and say, Please god when you upgrade don't say that crap on the radio.

 

[regionalcap]

It is almost as bad as someone posting the same post every year.


http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=99649

 

[WSurf]

It is almost as bad as someone posting the same post every year.


http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=99649

Too funny!!!!

 

[regionalcap]

and the year before too :smash:

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=80145



Old age kicking in??

 

[b707guy]

and the year before too :smash:

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=80145



Old age kicking in??

He's been holding at Mach80 all this time? Someone should clear him along!

East coast at 3:30 pm? Definitely keep it professional and quick. Over Montana at 1:30 am? Blabber away - anything to help keep everyone awake.

 

[Mach 80]

As long as morons waste time, add to radio clutter, and say these utterly stupid useless things -- watch for it next year and maybe the year after that too!

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Looking back at the threads you've started (see below), you seem to have some sort of OCD re: the term "with you."

Here's a tip -- no need to ever tell a controller that you are "with him" as he knows that by the fact you are talking to him. It sounds so student pilotish to hear it.

Professional pilots sound like student pilots when they use "with you" in their initial transmissions to ATC. Here's a clue -- ATC knows you are "with them" by the fact you are talking to them! It's redundant and a waste of radio time....especially the stupid "checking in with you". Try dropping the "with you" crap and sound a bit more professional and like you've flown in other parts of the world. Next time you hear "with you" consider how stupid it sounds....and is. It's just a bad habit.

Also...drop the "Any chance..." when what you really meant to do is request something. i.e. "Comair 123 requesting direct xyz".

Is there any more pathetic unprofessional response to ATC's "cleared for take-off" than "on the roll"?

I heard a flight mumble that response the other day that and the tower thought he was saying "Positon and hold" so the tower had to repeat "Cleared for Take-off". Finally the flight read back "cleared for take-off". This is too important a clearance to respond with anything other than "cleared for take-off". Anything else might create confusion.

Over the years I have observed pilot radio phraseology deteriorate.

Why in the world do some pilots use the redundant, totally useless, stupid phrase "with you" in their 'check-in' call to ATC. He KNOWS you are "with him". "Checking in with you" has to be the worse. Call sign and altitude is all ya need and all he wants. Quit wasting time on the radio.

Why, when asked your speed by ATC do some guys add the useless "...what do you need?". Just answer the question -- ATC will tell you what they need, if any change, after you answer the question.

Major airport control towers have local radar. Just tell the guy you are on final for the runway. You don't need some long drawn out call telling him whether you're "doing the visual" or "on the ILS" or that you are (again) "with him".

Don't tie up center frequency trying to sound cool by asking ATC "...how ya doing today?" at the end of your check-in.

ATC gives you on-coming trafiic above 18,000' solely so you won't get startled by seeing the traffic so there is absolutely no need to call back ATC a minute later to tell him you have him in sight --he doesn't care!

 

[Mach 80]

LIke I said man "As long as morons waste time, add to radio clutter, and say these utterly stupid useless things -- watch for it next year and maybe the year after that too!"

Even though some more experienced guys who should know better still do it, ya know I have to educate the new guys coming into the industry to stop this ugly trend.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

When I was doing my instrument training, I had a bad habit of saying "1234 in the box" and "punchin' out," which I picked up from the CFI who did my private. My CFII chastised me and said I sounded like I was in some F'kn John Wayne movie and I never uttered those words again. Looking back, I can see how ridiculous I must have sounded.

 

[Midnight Flyer]

Why, when asked your speed by ATC do some guys add the useless "...what do you need?".

There's a B727 doing .80 going into BOS in the morning on the heels of a barbie jet doing .75. After asking ATC "what do you need", I've oftentimes been given the option to climb two thousand feet & give him .86 so we could pass the rj.

I all the time hear ATC ask the rj's if they can pick up the speed and all too often the pilot seems inconvenienced and usually says that they "might" be able to push it up to .78.

I say "what do you need" simply as a courtesy, letting ATC know that I have the capability to speed up anytime to .86 in order to help them out.