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We all know how stressful punching an FMS is...

Not all of us flying jets have glass and a FMS. I get tired of hearing, "punch it in and let me know how it looks." Punch it into what, the VOR? I know ATC can be a difficult job, and we respect you guys very much, but please don't make assumptions like that.

Reminds me of the old quote, "When a pilot makes a mistake the pilot dies, when a controller makes a mistake the pilot dies."
 
Don't tie up center frequency trying to sound cool by asking ATC "...how ya doing today?" at the end of your check-in.


good thing you weren't up in the OSH sector when PR and Knute were working it...that always made for a good day when you heard those guys working!

However, I do agree...if the freq is busy, keep it simple and professional!
 
Whats with the "in sequence" call? Its like saying "I'm in line, in line".

I don't get it.

Then again the other part of my brain that I save for non flying duties like bangin chicks and drinking beer yearns for the Little John school of communication:

Atc: N12345 hold short of 28R
Me: "OK!"

Atc: N12345 cleared for takeoff 28R
Me: "YEAH!"

Atc: N12345 contact departure
Me: "WHAT?!"

Atc: N12345 contact departure
Me: "OK!"

If any of you need a Little John reference here is one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwC0CJGYGao&feature=related
 
Are you seriously this uptight about an extra work or two in a transmission? Its called brining a bit of humanity into a sometimes drab world! Obviously in a busy sector you should be as brief and concise as possible, but come on! Please tell me you fly single pilot Mach80!
 
Cesna Cap....
That's the first time in 20 years that a pilot has given me a good reason for asking "how longs the final?" All those years of faming on DAL and no one ever gave a valid reason.
Now I'll answer it with a bit more cooperation.

Reason number 397 why controllers should be back in the jumpseats again.
 
Reason number 397 why controllers should be back in the jumpseats again.
Funny. Just last night there was a discussion in the ATL Tower Cab about just that. Even though we (controllers) conincidentally used the up to 8 fams per year we were allotted to travel to someplace we wanted to go, I left each trip with some newfound value and understanding. I ALWAYS tooks something away from those experinces.....some good, some bad, but I ALWAYS learned something that has helped me to be a better controller!
 
Cesna Cap....
That's the first time in 20 years that a pilot has given me a good reason for asking "how longs the final?" All those years of faming on DAL and no one ever gave a valid reason.
Now I'll answer it with a bit more cooperation.

It's nice if you just give us the fix we'll join final around, it's easier/quicker than giving us the milage (but it really doesn't matter)...
 
Stop asking how the rides are every time you check in!.......................Southwest.


I don't work for SWA but what's the problem with asking how the rides are? Maybe you'll start asking after you you get unexpected CAT and bounce a few heads off the ceiling in the back. It's prudent to ask. That info could dictate your altitude, speed, seat belt sign, crew meal, etc.. That's important sh*t.
 
>>>>I say "what do you need" simply as a courtesy, letting ATC know that I have the capability to speed up anytime to .86 in order to help them out.<<<

Do you think if you DON'T say "what do you need" he otherwise might not make a request? He just wants some information....period. With very few exceptions, controllers pretty much know what planes can do and "what do you need" doesn't inform him of anything anyway.
 
Why is my transponder code that was good when I took off 1 hour before now needs to be changed. Is it because now we are counted twice, when you give out numbers of aircraft that pass thru your center?
 
...on the meter??!!!

ATC: "Super Airline 345 descend and maintain 12,000, Atlanta altimeter is 30.12."

Super Airline 345: "Descend and maintain 12,000, 3012 ....ON THE METER"

"ON THE METER"??!!! ON THE METER???!! Are you kidding me? Maybe you'd put it, ummmmm, on the compass? or the airspeed indicator..... or on the wing? What a dork thing to say! Why in the world would you need to add "..on the meter" at the end of simply repeating the altimeter setting?

This is a new low. The sad thing is that these 'fad' phrases spread like wildfire, especially among the younger pilots.

A few months flying international speaking strictly ICAO responses would help. At least you can TRY to sound like you've been around the block.

Anyone who adds "...on the meter" in reading back the altimeter setting is truly a moron. Another extraneous, time wasting, unprofessional, totally useless, stupid, dorky phrase.
 
ATC: "Super Airline 345 descend and maintain 12,000, Atlanta altimeter is 30.12."

Super Airline 345: "Descend and maintain 12,000, 3012 ....ON THE METER"

"ON THE METER"??!!! ON THE METER???!! Are you kidding me? Maybe you'd put it, ummmmm, on the compass? or the airspeed indicator..... or on the wing? What a dork thing to say! Why in the world would you need to add "..on the meter" at the end of simply repeating the altimeter setting?

This is a new low. The sad thing is that these 'fad' phrases spread like wildfire, especially among the younger pilots.

A few months flying international speaking strictly ICAO responses would help. At least you can TRY to sound like you've been around the block.

Anyone who adds "...on the meter" in reading back the altimeter setting is truly a moron. Another extraneous, time wasting, unprofessional, totally useless, stupid, dorky phrase.

....are you George Costanza?
 
ATC: "Super Airline 345 descend and maintain 12,000, Atlanta altimeter is 30.12."

Super Airline 345: "Descend and maintain 12,000, 3012 ....ON THE METER"

"ON THE METER"??!!! ON THE METER???!! Are you kidding me? Maybe you'd put it, ummmmm, on the compass? or the airspeed indicator..... or on the wing? What a dork thing to say! Why in the world would you need to add "..on the meter" at the end of simply repeating the altimeter setting?

This is a new low. The sad thing is that these 'fad' phrases spread like wildfire, especially among the younger pilots.

A few months flying international speaking strictly ICAO responses would help. At least you can TRY to sound like you've been around the block.

Anyone who adds "...on the meter" in reading back the altimeter setting is truly a moron. Another extraneous, time wasting, unprofessional, totally useless, stupid, dorky phrase.


I use "fish finder" myself!! What do you think of that??? :p
 
earl, not sure if you're question is sarcasm or serious, but you're getting your code changed because someone else in that centers computer already has the code that you're squawking assigned to them. is it that big of a pain to switch?
 

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