Delta Connection Academy...THOUGHTS????

[The_Russian]

More from the Kremlin

Originally posted by huncowboy:

Plz do not put Gulfstream next to Comair. Thx.

Why? We fly the same way Comair does. Maybe slightly different profiles.

However, he is incorrect that Comair is a training airline. GIA is a training airline for a small percentage of the F/O's that are in the program.

Originally posted by Four02Driver:

A place like DCA does NOT give you what you need to take any aircraft down to mins when other peoples lives are at stake.

I completely agree with you on that one!!! DCA is a joke when it comes to real world experience. DCA trains their pilots to believe that there is only one way to fly: theirs. Those guys have a hard time outside their element. When I was instructing at GIA I had a few DCA CFIs under me that wouldn't leave DCA procedures and learn ours. It took us months to standardize them. One of them actually told me that students didn't need to learn slips to landing because "they will never have to do it in the airlines". Give me a frickin break!

Honestly, like I've always said:

It doesn't matter where you learn to fly. As long as you do it well and you know your sh!t. Some pilots from DCA will be eceptional. Some will be a discrace to the industry. Same goes with FSI, GIA, ERAU, and the list goes on. It also doesn't matter how many hours you have. A lot of people have it in their heads that a full logbook is a right of passage or a show of skill. It is simply not true.

 

[BoDEAN]

I am friends with the A. Chief Flight Instructor down in FL, and he loves it.

 

[elantra2002]

You all sound like a bunch of whiner's looking for the perfect world.

Get a clue the real world is full of things we all don't like.

It seems like everyone is busy wasting their energy and trying to find fault with everything to distract from their own faults.

Suck it up, grow up and do what any adult would do. Get a back bone and understand life is not a little happy feel good circle. You actually have to work for what you get and not expect to be coddled like a little baby with a full diaper.

 

[Four02Driver]

Sounds like you cant find a job.


Oh and by the way 1 in 5 pass my sim ride

 

[huncowboy]

Re: More from the Kremlin

Originally posted by The_Russian
Originally posted by huncowboy:
Why? We fly the same way Comair does. Maybe slightly different profiles.


I should have written Gulfstream Academy vs. DCA. But you already knew that. And if you don't know the difference, than there is nothing to talk about anyways.


One of them actually told me that students didn't need to learn slips to landing because "they will never have to do it in the airlines". Give me a frickin break!


and you did believe it right? give papa a break plz

thanks

zzz ZZZ zzz ZZZ

 

[elantra2002]

Your right I can't find a Job.

I have a career big diff.

 

[standaman]

And the war of words continues. Nobody is right and nobody is wrong. Experience versus connections. Cheap versus expensive. Good vs Bad. All things I know in this world have benefits and drawbacks. The path you decide to take will determine your fate. The question is what works for you. All companies have problems. To think otherwise is criminal.

 

[BellyFlyer]

Four02,

What regional do you work for? Cape Air? How 's life there? Are you guys growing? What sim do you use for the interview?

Not looking for a job; just curious.

 

[Four02Driver]

yep,
49 c-402's
3 atr 42's
igate elite

Four on 3 off I can pick my schedule and the best part is I'm home in my own bed every night!

 

[KingAirKiddo]

yep,
49 c-402's
3 atr 42's
igate elite

Four on 3 off I can pick my schedule and the best part is I'm home in my own bed every night!

Cape always looked like it would be a fun place to work (seriously). There's something to be said for New England in the summer and the Islands in the winter!

Just out of curiosity, what's the pay like over there?

KAK

 

[Four02Driver]

Pay

You not going to get rich but if you work hard the money is real good. Plus it beats 15,000 a year sitting in the right seat. Just remember there is a ton of low IFR around here. just in the last 2 days I've done 20 approaches to mins that includes 20 landings

 

[elantra2002]

To me it sounds like a few things are going on in this thread.

Trying to rationalize their mistake(s) in stands class

Dragging their feet in making a decision what to do. Don't drag them too long or you will miss the boat

Acting like their God's gift to aviation, an attitude the airlines H.R. department will see in an interview.

And forgetting that they too were wet behind the ear's and maybe someone helped them out along the way. They were just too arrogant to remember.

 

[Jansen]

Greetings all...

I am currently a student at DCA. If anyone has some questions I am more than happy to tell you what you wont get on a tour..

 

[aeronautic1]

JAnsen

Okay, how old are you and how much is the program? Where did you get the funding?

 

[Jansen]

I am 20 almost 21. They say it is around 60 average per person. I will prob spend around 70. I got my funding from Key Lone. www.key.com Most of the students that don't have the funding themselves, use key.

 

[aeronautic1]

Lone?

$65K? Geez !!! Nothing like being behind the eight ball before 25. Best wishes, fly right.

 

[ucf_motorcycle]

Who told you it was 60K because when I signed up (June 03) my contract said 46k and like you said it really is about 70k and can be easily more.
Where are you in your training right now? ANd how much have you spent so far? I finished Commercial with 180hrs in the program from 0 time and spent 43K. Then decided to stop because of the outragues price I wish I hadn't enrolled in the first place.

 

[Jansen]

I was quoted 60K. I just finished PPC. Not sure about the price I have spent yet. I need my last statement.

 

[minitour]

I was quoted 60K. I just finished PPC. Not sure about the price I have spent yet. I need my last statement.

Dang...and I got pizzled off spending 21k for Instrument though CFII

 

[Goose Egg]

I have no opinion on DCA. I didn't go there, and I don't know anyone who did. However, I would like to make it known that my flight training and college was considerably less than most seem to spend. I do have loans, but they are all federal and the total amount is less than $20k, and that includes a BS degree and Private through CFII. I went to a ("pretty-boy") state school, and actually most of my training was Part 61. Just letting you all know that there are other options. At the moment, I am instructing at a different college--private, expensive, and part 141--than the one that I graduated from (and having an absolute blast, mind you.) We have had our high-time instructors going to some fractionals and regional airlines. I don't have a guaranteed interview to any airline. Don't need one--I can get an interview myself.

Oh, and I suspect that most of Four02's sim failures are due to inadequate instrument flying skills. Not that the ride itself isn't a good challenge, but it probably does not contain anything unreasonable (correct me if I'm wrong here, Four02...) Probably the same situation for the DCA guys. Some folks can't get out of the "Top Gun" mentality--they don't realize that flying airplanes involves work, challenges, setbacks, and patience.

-Goose