Delta Connection Academy...THOUGHTS????

[bobbysamd]

FlightSafety

I worked at FSI from 1991-'92. The place indeed has cardiac-inducing prices, but the student housing wasn't bad. The campus was nice, the airplanes, unlike Comair's, were nice, maintenance was tops, and the training was top-notch. Customer service for clients was excellent.

Contrary to Comair, FSI rolled out the red carpet for me when I traveled another two-thousand miles for its interview. It put me up in one of the bungalows on campus. The interview was conducted over four days, during which I took writtens, a sim and a flight with an assistant chief pilot, and was interviewed by the Center Manager and the Chief Pilot. No airline interview I attended was that thorough - and I liked it. I was impressed. I was well-treated.

FSI's treatment of flight instructors back then was not that great. The Chief Pilot lied to me, and probably others, about pay not long after I arrived. It tended to treat all flight instructors like a bunch of 19-year-olds. In September of 1992, he announced to the whole group that salaries were being eliminated and all salaried instructors, of which I was one, would be returned to hourly, with paychecks being docked for any overpayment. That caused a major outcry, with at least one instructor turning in his keys and leaving on the spot. Coincidentally, or not, perhaps, the Chief Pilot was sacked about two months later. I already had a job lined up and was gone before he was.

The gentlemen, and I emphasize, gentlemen, who are now in charge of FSI were there when I was there, and are, without question, absolutely first-class people. For that reason, I am sure FSI personnel are treated better than in my day. I did hear that FSI instructors were given a raise. Students were always treated well at FSI.

FSI, like any school, has its negatives. It may not necessarily wave an airline interview under your nose. But, having worked in three well-known 141 operations, I would recommend FSI to anyone - even with its cardiac-inducing prices. I feel you get value, together with considerate treatment, for what you pay.

 

[standaman]

WTF are you smokin'? Let me guess, you were one of DCA's glorious "standz" pilots who swaggered around like Chuck frickin' Yeager thinking you had done all seen all...all from the confines of central Florida's airspace. Apparently you played the game like all good robots that DCA likes. Look in the mirror, I think theres still some brown stuff on the end of your nose and some white stuff still dribbling down your chin. Your a tool...

This robot with brown stuff on my nose got a job just as you did. I was not a standz pilot and yes I played the game and I am happy I did. Any company that you work for will expect you to join the culture. To think otherwise is criminal. If you don't like it you don't have to stay or join it. I was okay with their system. Again I sit here with a good job. When I look in the mirror I am happy with what I see. Are you?

 

[LXApilot]

Scott,
Whoever SMOE is he just called you out man. ROTFLMAO! The thing you guys in your pool never got was the big picture. You stole a seat at the airline from someone who really deserves it, and now you guys like to come back to CRG or wherever and show off your stripes and proclaim that you 'made it'. Yeah, made it all the way to the regional airlines so you can erode the very major airline pilot jobs you so long for. I've read your above statement over and over again and still cannot believe what you have written. You are a self-admitting brown nose, but justify it by looking at your current position. If I ever had to say something it is this; everyone makes it Scotty. And you don't have to screw people, you don't have to brown nose, you don't have to lower yourself to that level. You almost sound happy that you knuckled under and took it up the tailpipe for the sake of sitting the right seat at "the airline". Why do you guys call it that anyways? Nevermind! Point is, where is your pride in yourself? Have you no shame Scott? Everyone has some kind of humility, or do they? I knew plenty of other guys out there that didnt screw anyone, didnt brag that they flew for dca, tried to help everyone they could, and ended up quietly taking the job they wanted and never admitted to their affiliation ever again in their careers. I respect you because you are a decent pilot, but this is just the attitude that makes the rest of the industry hate DCA - and limite the opportunities for everyone one else not quite as "fortunate" as you. If you can call it that...

Fly Safe,
Colin

 

[NuGuy]

It tended to treat all flight instructors like a bunch of 19-year-olds.

Hi Bobby,

And here, at last, do we find the crux of the problem with schools today, and I am not singling out any one place.

First, schools treat their CFIs like this because they have to. In essence, this group makes up the largest segment of the CFI population...19-25 year olds or people who act like them. These pilots, for lack of experience elsewhere, will knuckle under, and jump the hoops since they are only going to be there a relatively short time. Don't make waves, mark the days, and get the students out. Schools come down with an iron hand and SOP scripture , because this is how you have to treat 21 year old CFIs with 250 hours who have never flown above 30 degrees North (or insert any convient fix within 150 miles of the schools base).

Second, schools treat their CFIs this way because it is economically expident to do so. Who is going to make waves? Although with the bones some places charge, you would think they could add $5/hr and pass it right on to the CFI, because in the end, it would make up a TINY portion of the training expense. But instead they will cut the costs where they can and from the people who won't complain about it.

The FAA tried to head this problem off when they took over the initial CFI checkrides around 1988. From what I understand, they were concerned about the quality of CFIs, but were just as concerned about the dedication these people would have. They saw a LOT of folks out there getting the ticket for time building, and not really paying attention to what they were doing. In the end, though, is this has just become another hurdle to jump.

If the FAA REALLY wanted to fix this problem, they would have addressed the experience "gap". If they were to require 135 type minimums for instructing... it would really be interesting to see how things would change.

JMHO,
Nu

 

[mnixon]

If the FAA REALLY wanted to fix this problem, they would have addressed the experience "gap". If they were to require 135 type minimums for instructing... it would really be interesting to see how things would change.

JMHO,
Nu

That is the most asanine thing that I have ever heard. Would you really feel that way if you were one of those low time pilots? There are only so many banner towing jobs out there to be had and lets face it, flight instruction may not be the answer, but at least you learn something new every day. I think if you were to go back to your newly minted CFI certicate days, you might rethink this statement.

 

[bobbysamd]

Flight instructor treatment, or lack thereof

chools treat their CFIs like [19-year-olds] because they have to. In essence, this group makes up the largest segment of the CFI population...19-25 year olds or people who act like them. These pilots, for lack of experience elsewhere, will knuckle under, and jump the hoops since they are only going to be there a relatively short time. Don't make waves, mark the days, and get the students out. Schools come down with an iron hand and SOP scripture , because this is how you have to treat 21 year old CFIs with 250 hours who have never flown above 30 degrees North (or insert any convient fix within 150 miles of the schools base)

. . . . which might be why I found the treatment so insulting. I was 40, had more than 3400 total hours, 890 multi and more than 2400 hours instructing when I joined FSI in 1991. Not only that, I had been working since I was 14 and knew better. Flight instructing may very well had been the some of the younger group's first job.

Another difference between me and the younger group is I would have been interested in staying a while and probably would have but for the poor treatment. As it turned out, two of the three gentlemen whom I mentioned above joined FSI when I did (one also left but came back). They were actually older than me. What might have been different for them is they were both retired military who were receiving retirement benefits. Neither had designs on the airlines. So, FSI was a second income for them and it may have mattered less to them than someone like me. FSI was my only income source.

If the FAA REALLY wanted to fix this problem, they would have addressed the experience "gap". If they were to require 135 type minimums for instructing... it would really be interesting to see how things would change.

I like your idea in theory, but I also respect mnixon's point of view.

I feel it all boils down to the issue of respect - a concept that has been deteriorating for years and is now severely lacking.

 

[NuGuy]

That is the most asanine thing that I have ever heard. Would you really feel that way if you were one of those low time pilots? There are only so many banner towing jobs out there to be had and lets face it, flight instruction may not be the answer, but at least you learn something new every day.

Mnixon,
Been there, done that. And yes, I benefited from the system as it was THEN. But I can also look back with an experienced eye and discuss with Bobby the problems with the system as exists NOW.

Take a look at the system as it stands now. You need 1200 hours to fly a bunch of cancelled checks around by yourself, even single engine. Heck you even need 500 to do it VFR, but with 250 hours you are good to go with someones life in your hands. Yet I don't hear a single complaint about how the 135 system works.

The really nice wrinkle to all this? A good portion of of those that do teach don't even want to be there, and wouldn't do it at all if it weren't for the time building.

If it were up to me, I would say Part 135 cargo only is good to go with present Comm/CFI mins, and raise up the CFI ticket to present 135 mins.

This way, the people who really didn't want to CFI wouldn't have to, and could move right into building that time. And those that did have the urge to teach would have a bit more respect and might earn a few more bucks in the process.

Nu

 

[NuGuy]

. . . . which might be why I found the treatment so insulting. I was 40, had more than 3400 total hours, 890 multi and more than 2400 hours instructing when I joined FSI in 1991. Not only that, I had been working since I was 14 and knew better. Flight instructing may very well had been the some of the younger group's first job.

Another difference between me and the younger group is I would have been interested in staying a while and probably would have but for the poor treatment. As it turned out, two of the three gentlemen whom I mentioned above joined FSI when I did (one also left but came back). They were actually older than me. What might have been different for them is they were both retired military who were receiving retirement benefits. Neither had designs on the airlines. So, FSI was a second income for them and it may have mattered less to them than someone like me. FSI was my only income source.I like your idea in theory, but I also respect mnixon's point of view.

I feel it all boils down to the issue of respect - a concept that has been deteriorating for years and is now severely lacking.

Too true, and I think we're comming close to the issue.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think there is NO place for the lower time CFI, but you need to have effective oversight, and having a 700 hour CFI oversee a 300 hour CFI is not what I mean. In my perfect world, you would have been EXACTLY the kind of guy I would have been looking for to smooth out the rough spots. Someone for the lower time guys to head to for getting the gouge, and to perpetuate some of the "cultural knowledge".

True a lot of schools have Chief CFIs and assistant chiefs, but usually these guys are doing so much administrative BS and fire stamping, that the opportunity to really see what's going on is slim.

Well, maybe if we want to continue this thread we can start a new topic...I don't wan't anyone to think I am pointing the finger at any school in particular just cause this conversation is in this thread. This would be a great topic over a pitcher of beer or two...


Nu

 

[mnixon]

NuGuy, I would totally agree with you in the fact that time builders should be offered an outlet to build that time outside of teaching our future captains how to fly. But in the same respect, flight instruction is a double edged sword. We are all here to build time, yet some of us care about what we do. When I look at my students who are now CFI applicants, and realize that I introduced them to aviation, is overwhelming. While I agree with you in the fact that time building should be offered in a different venue, where does it leave persons like myself, that are not only building time, but actually love what I do. Yes, I roll pennies for gas and food, but in the end, I am gettiing paid to fly, the one goal that I have strived for all my life. I am not flying the plane I want to fly, and my missions are not the ones that I have wanted to do, but when it boils down to it, I am doing what I love, and that is flying airplanes. Now to take that away from someone, saying that I am not qualified and that I do not have enough experience is ridicolous. I just went through the same training as they did...I made the same mistakes as they did, it is fresh in my mind. How is a 1250TT pilot who built there time flying banners and cargo (VFR at that) more qualified then I am? I respect your points about people who really dont care and are just here to build time, but in the same respect, you must realize that the majority here, like it or not, want to make a difference.

 

[bobbysamd]

New instructor oversight, support - and respect

[Y]ou need to have effective oversight, and having a 700 hour CFI oversee a 300 hour CFI is not what I mean . . . . Someone for the lower time guys to head to for getting the gouge, and to perpetuate some of the "cultural knowledge".

Was that not the original intent of the Gold Seal CFI program? The Gold Seal is an accomplishment of which I am proud, but it only resulted in a nice extra credential to put on my resume.

[A] lot of schools have Chief CFIs and assistant chiefs, but usually these guys are doing so much administrative BS and fire stamping, that the opportunity to really see what's going on is slim.

. . . . and, don't forget, serving as management and ownership's lackeys. As long as they are serving in that function, don't count on them to be entirely supportive of and helpful to the instructor masses. They will cover their respective asses long before they stick their necks out for you.

I have worked in three well-known 141 schools and have experienced Comair (DCA). Based on my experience, I would say these problems plague many schools, with some being bothered more than others. But that does not mean these problems are acceptable, tolerable, and should be tolerated. Once again, whether you are a new instructor just there to build time or a career instructor, it all boils down to respect. Respect may not mean much to you when you're young, but as you gain life experience you find it starts to mean something. My earlier comments about Comair turn on that issue.

 

[NuGuy]

Was that not the original intent of the Gold Seal CFI program? The Gold Seal is an accomplishment of which I am proud, but it only resulted in a nice extra credential to put on my resume. . . . . and, don't forget, serving as management and ownership's lackeys. As long as they are serving in that function, don't count on them to be entirely supportive of and helpful to the instructor masses. They will cover their respective asses long before they stick their necks out for you.

Very true. I've seen a few guys that will hang it out for you or take a stand, but chances are those guys already have their ticket out the door.

I have worked in three well-known 141 schools and have experienced Comair (DCA). Based on my experience, I would say these problems plague many schools, with some being bothered more than others. But that does not mean these problems are acceptable, tolerable, and should be tolerated. Once again, whether you are a new instructor just there to build time or a career instructor, it all boils down to respect. Respect may not mean much to you when you're young, but as you gain life experience you find it starts to mean something. My earlier comments about Comair turn on that issue.

True beyond words...

In any event, thanks for an intellegent conversation on the topic. Happy Holidays!

Nu

 

[bobbysamd]

You bet, my friend. Happy New Year!

 

[jaywc7]

RAA (www.raajobs.com) has extremely presentable students as well as instructors and personell. Things are conducted in a wonderful airline geared atmosphere. They have like a 98% hire rate and a 100% interview rate. Most of their alliances are about 500/100. Their program includes a CRJ or ERJ type rating in Denver at CAE. The program is very efficient, and not misleading. You get there, you get things done, and still don't feel pressure in the atmosphere provided. Despite the low time, the instruction is good quality, and the FOS course is taught by very experienced pilots who come from great backgrounds including airline capt., military and airline training. The planes are not the newest, but they are kept up, and work great. The cost is competitive, and not the cheapest, but relative to the quality of the school, it's impressive. Many of the airlines who have alliances make regular but unscheduled stops to give pre-interviews. Many have been hired before they even finish the FOS, or step foot in Denver assuming they finish the program and have the minimum time. I don't guaruntee this experience to everyone, but simply offer that it's what I've experienced personally. With this said, I want to offer that I at no time "bashed" another school, but only complemented mine. Though this may bring due discussion, I urge to continue the respect...

and no,,, I don't work for RAA

 

[convair007]

GLW,

I too attended WMU, like you I was completely satisfied with their program. If you are as satisfied with WMU as you say you are then why change. You're gettinga good education at a great school. Stick with it you won't be dissapointed. Besides, how could you live without The Wayside!!!

 

[350DRIVER]

RAA (www.raajobs.com) has extremely presentable students as well as instructors and personell. Things are conducted in a wonderful airline geared atmosphere. They have like a 98% hire rate and a 100% interview rate. Most of their alliances are about 500/100. Their program includes a CRJ or ERJ type rating in Denver at CAE. The program is very efficient, and not misleading. You get there, you get things done, and still don't feel pressure in the atmosphere provided. Despite the low time, the instruction is good quality, and the FOS course is taught by very experienced pilots who come from great backgrounds including airline capt., military and airline training. The planes are not the newest, but they are kept up, and work great. The cost is competitive, and not the cheapest, but relative to the quality of the school, it's impressive. Many of the airlines who have alliances make regular but unscheduled stops to give pre-interviews. Many have been hired before they even finish the FOS, or step foot in Denver assuming they finish the program and have the minimum time. I don't guaruntee this experience to everyone, but simply offer that it's what I've experienced personally. With this said, I want to offer that I at no time "bashed" another school, but only complemented mine. Though this may bring due discussion, I urge to continue the respect...

and no,,, I don't work for RAA

The program may "include" a CRJ or ERJ type but be assured it would take a fool to believe they weren't actually paying for this. I find it extremely comical in more ways than one (and I will keep this civilized) how anyone could possibly advocate a program where the student pays for a regional jet type rating only to get hired into the right seat making peanuts, longer upgrade times, etc, when in reality the normal career path is to spend X amount of years in the right seat, upgrade to captain, and have the company pay for this type rating during upgrade training. Just maybe with the likes of this sort of a program/set up new regional first officer minimums will state "CRJ/ERJ" type rating preferred but not required." If this practice doesn't allow the bar to continue to go even lower then I surely don't know what does. A low time pilot being sold a regional jet type rating is getting raped as well as taking it from the backside.

I guess it comes down to personal preferences but a few would tend to think that a "type rating" should be company funded during upgrade, I am one of those people. I certainly hope that this practice will continue to be very isolated.

I have never met a lower time pilot who needed that sort of a type rating to get into a regional airline, any suggestion of such I think is insane.

 

[taters]

"Fu#%" DCA

It is aimed at the zero time wanna-be pilot who has done no research on flight schools. Furthermore, there is a group of pilots that are preparing a class action lawsuit against DCA for false advertising.If you have a deep enough pocket you will make to to CFI, then they will send you home for 6 mo.. And , finally after you tell them NO, they will never stop harrasing you.........My advise go to ATP or something similar were there at least a guranteed price as long as you dont biff any check rides.............

Oh ya forgot the most important part ....it REALLY cost about $ 65-$75000 to go there ,,,,,that is financial sodomy

 

[BLing]

Oh ya forgot the most important part ....it REALLY cost about $ 65-$75000 to go there ,,,,,that is financial sodomy

Dont they actually quote that amount, but in reality it actually costs $100K? Anways...financial sodomy is a new one, but yet it does speak the truth about alot of places.

 

[lmevans1]

As an aspiring airline pilot and University of Illinois Student I find the viewpoints here interesting. I toured the DCA 1 year ago and I didnt have enough time to form much of an opinion die to a late arriving flight and space available tickets. I also work ramp for Comair and ahve run into many pilots who graduated from DCA, U of IL, Flight Safety, and just some old farts no ffense who went to DCA when the total cost of training from 0 to Left Seat was $7000. I'd like to know if anyone visited the Flight Safety Academy in Vero Beach, FL. It is my next stop once I get time off from the ramp and school. The DCA Director of Admissions was here last week and I had a brief moment to speak with him as I boarded him. From my 2 hr personal tour I gathered that the aircraft were in good condition although compared to your average FBO but lower than University standard. The staff, instructors and students were wonderful and friendly. The one major Con is the cost, which is why I'm not there and most likely will not be. If anyone has an extra $56,000 don't mail it, I'll fly to your hometown and pick it up.

 

[Almerick07]

I got my private done in 2 weeks for a little less than $4000 at a mom and pop FBO....I just dont see the point of a flight academy.

 

[ubpilot]

Don't waste your money in DCA. I am currently working for DCAirline, I remembered in my class out of 16 new hire pilots only 1 was DCA CFI. As you can see, airlines don't care what school you have attended. After Delta and Comair filed Chapter 11, I really don't thnk DCA can promise you anything.

 

[Cat3C]

Is Susan Burrell still there at DCA or.....

 

[standaman]

Is Susan Burrell still there at DCA or.....

Has M.S. (multiple sclerosis). Has left the company.

 

[DGdaPilot]

Don't waste your money in DCA. I am currently working for DCAirline, I remembered in my class out of 16 new hire pilots only 1 was DCA CFI. As you can see, airlines don't care what school you have attended. After Delta and Comair filed Chapter 11, I really don't thnk DCA can promise you anything.

My class (of 12) at Comair was 90% DCA. And I heard it come right out of an upper management mouth that they prefer to get people from DCA. Of course, I didn't go to DCA, so it makes no difference to me......and I don't think Comair's gonna be hiring for quite some time now.

 

[mnixon]

Don't listen to mnixon (aka Matt Nixon). He's a two-faced carcinogen smoked filled SOB. Matt had his students sit around all day while he CONSTANTLY took smoke breaks...uke: Pretty much how he smells, too. Reeeel nice in the swirling wind environment of a C172 cockpit...

I know as I backseated one of his flights as an instructor under Loren's BS little instrument "syllabus". He flew like crap (i.e. dangerous) and all he cared about was getting into the little smoker, hoarse voiced female student's pants.

Matt, I'm sure you remember me. I was the one that made the comment to her about questioning the leadership. Remember how you violated DCA's policy about no tobacco in the aircraft? Ya disgustingly dipped the entire flight then dumped your container out on the farkin ramp next to the aircraft!! Do as I say, not as I do, right? Goes for many, many other instructors and the bean counter "leadership" as well at DCA

No wonder all those planes smell like azz... The next pilot is going to step in your cr@p and track it into the airplane. Yeah, the DCA "senior" flight instructior leadership really rocks.

Wow! You are very angry boy. I would suggest that you think twice about spreading slander about a fellow pilot though. First off, it is not courteous, and second of all, in most states you could be taken to court for some of the things you have said. In fact of I could sue you for defamation of character if I would like to. I remember exactly who you are, can't remember your name though, davitt or something like that, but I am sure you won't remind me in public though. Former Navy guy that "Thinks he's too good to be here" and that's a quote from someone else not me, unfortuneatly, it looks like it has turned out to be true in this case. Oh well. And yes I did "scold" you for what you said to the student. Like I told you then and will tell you again, what you did was very unprofessional. If you enjoy spreading rumors about people, that's fine, but remember that karma is a biaaatch, somewhat like yourself and the way your acting. I need a cigarette now! whoooo!

 

[jeroom]

Ask the CFI's that went to FSI why they were not working at FSI as flight instructors? If you read the ads and look at the FSI website, they make it sound as if FSI is your ticket to the airlines as a pilot. I think FSI is like the rest of the "Big Academies" that promise and "GUARANTEE” airline jobs and connections, but are faulty on most accounts when it comes to the number of actual hires with the airlines. Sure, some make it to the right seat, airline pilot slot, but majority do not. How can a school, such as DCA, boast of having the most pilot certificates issued of any school in the world, and have less than, on average, only 3 former "graduate" students a month get hired by the "connection" airlines. Here is DCA’s own written word in the magazine ads and website.

“Even in today’s job market, 97% of our graduates are hired as First Officers!*”

The asterisk * small print at the bottom of ads reads: “* 728 out of 754 students who completed the entire program through August 2003”. Wow, that is fantastic, don’t you know? DCA has been in business since 1987, which is 16 years. If you divide 728 by that 16 years you only get 45.5 students per year, or 3 students per month on average, that graduate. This means less than 6% of their students make it as First Officers. Do you really want to spend all that money to attend DCA, knowing that only 6% or less of the attending students are hired as First Officers?

And if I may....

I don't get what is the point here...
I don't understand why so many young people think that they HAVE to go to those academies in order to get a FO job in a regional...
Guys...when the regional are short of FOs, they will interview everyone who has their minimums...
And there are some excellent schools out there that are not "FLIGHT ACADEMY", where you will get an excellent training and where you won't be in debt for 30 years.
I did all my training at P61 school that also does 141. I was super happy with my training, free-lanced as a CFI there after, did some corporate in light twins and had my interview at a regional. They didn't care if I came from a flight academy...They made sure I knew my stuff, that I had some basic IFR, and could have a normal talk with someone...that's it...
Now, paying $30K or $40K to an academy only to get a FO position... I don't think it's worth it (not the FO position...but all that money for training.) I'd rather buy my own airplane and build my time that way.

 

[mnixon]

Exactly right! And with the attitudes like that of mnixon above being very prevalent at those "academies". quote]

How did I give you attitude in my post? Just wondering.

 

[LSU Fan]

Okay, we get the fact that you don't like DCA. But is it really necessary to bash people and attempt to spread rumors about them? I went to DCA just the same as you and disliked it just as much as you. But it seems your anger is misdirected. Did it ever occur to you that Carlos has some other obligations that would preclude him from making the move to the oh so coveted regional jet job? Did it ever occur to you that nixon doesn't work for DCA anymore? Did it ever occur to you that nixon's financial situation isn't any of your business? And finally, did it ever occur to you that nixon hated working there(just like the rest of us) as much as you hated being a student there. Look, some of us made a decision at one time, whether it be right in your eyes or not is immaterial, to attend DCA. Some of us, like me for instance, had to go to work there and do what we had to do to support ourselves. You should take a step back and realized you got hosed like the rest of us and Carlos, nixon, or whatever other white shirt you care to name didn't do it to you. That was Susan, accounting, mother Delta, etc. Lay off nixon and the rest of them because you have no idea what it islike to work there and the he!! we as instructors had to go through just to get you the student in the air. Don't forget, when you went home after your lesson, we had to stay for paperwork, meetings and too many other BS responsibilities to list here. So buffett, why don't you lighten up, get a beer, and get laid. Sorry, rant over. Oh by the way, Key has quit doing flight training loans for everyone(schools) as of 10/05.

 

[Cat3C]

So what is the story with Susan? Was she liked down there or was she part of the sales process? Just curious because I knew her a long time ago before she came to DCA. I was down there on a trip recently, called over there to the school and got a wierd reaction from the woman who answered the phone - like I was asking for the nuclear launch codes or something.

 

[mnixon]

Double Post

 

[mnixon]

Got beat to the response but to answer some of your questions Scott:
1. I don't work for DCA anymore.
2. I'm paying for my own loans thanks.
3. It's none of your business, but my Father is a Episcopal Priest, so I'm on my own financially.
4. Yes, I'm glad I have moved on.
5. Do I regret the experience? Not one minute. I went into it with my eyes wide open. Maybe you should have opened yours also so you would have less to bitch about. Nothing that you have stated here is a surprise. It's public knowledge to anyone who researches the school.
6. I'm not from New York. I grew up in Tennessee. Close but no cigar.
7. I do have an attitude yes, because I have worked very hard to be where I'm right now. Outside of DCA also.

If you have quams with me tis is fine, but don't spread propaganda about people you don't know. And don't bring up peoples families. Your acting like a juvenile schoolgirl with a skinned knee, and not looking very intelligent doing it. Good day.