Comair furloughs 210

[DX Rick]

Yeah, I don't plan on coming back to Comair. There's nothing left. No QOL, no character or spirit. If by some miracle there is a recall, I won't bite on a 7 year upgrade and 15 years to hold a line.

I couldn't face going to another regional and starting over again. I plan on staying overseas until the economy is good enough to find a decent corporate job.

Sad but true.
Comair is the new Mesa.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Several "good" regionals have been shut down before.....West Air, ACA, and Alleghany......Air Willy came close......XJT isn't far away either.....

In this business you don't want to be the highest cost operator.....

How about Golden West, Pacific Coast, Imperial, Desert Sun, etc...

 

[wmuflyguy]

The guys who have said "enough is enough" have left, or will be leaving.
They know the industry will not improve. They have no faith in ALPA and figured that there is no future or living to be made at the airlines anymore.
Pensions? HAHAHA! Only for the management.

Don't pay the assesment fee. Chances are you won't return to Comair or an ALPO carrier.
If that letter that AF sent out has any true to it, furloughed NWA guys will be flying our airplanes. But I have yet to see the write up, showing any truth to that. It won't suprise me if it's true.


Joe, all the regionals will be smart to vote ALPA off. We're doing nothing but undercutting each other to survive and ALPA does nothing to help.

Ford's memo was garbage. It went straight into the trash along with the 100% lapel pin.

 

[DX Rick]

Ford's memo was garbage. It went straight into the trash along with the 100% lapel pin.

Not doubting it, but where does he get all of his information? He has some pretty some accusations in that memo.

They're seriously handing those out? Where? What a joke. I guess they replace the Christmas ham.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Not doubting it, but where does he get all of his information? He has some pretty some accusations in that memo.

They're seriously handing those out? Where? What a joke. I guess they replace the Christmas ham.

He didn't provide any sources and I have been unable to find anywhere in the PWA of his accusation. He hates scope and wants to be able to underbid mainline for larger aircraft.

The pin was in our mailboxes...what a joke

 

[JoeMerchant]

He didn't provide any sources and I have been unable to find anywhere in the PWA of his accusation. He hates scope and wants to be able to underbid mainline for larger aircraft.

If you're talking about the flowback that is forced on you if you take 900s....It's in the new DAL JPWA and it came from the NWA contract....It is very real.....

 

[wmuflyguy]

If you're talking about the flowback that is forced on you if you take 900s....It's in the new DAL JPWA and it came from the NWA contract....It is very real.....

Please post it then.

 

[DoinTime]

If you're talking about the flowback that is forced on you if you take 900s....It's in the new DAL JPWA and it came from the NWA contract....It is very real.....

Nice try! Maybe next time you check the facts.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Nice try! Maybe next time you check the facts.

We'll see if he can produce the facts.

 

[DX Rick]

We'll see if he can produce the facts.

And if just happens to be true, in every sense of the new definition of the word SCAB. This would make NWA pilots scabs, since they're flying furloughed work.

 

[wmuflyguy]

And if just happens to be true, in every sense of the new definition of the word SCAB. This would make NWA pilots scabs, since they're flying furloughed work.

uh no...scabs fly struck work.

 

[DX Rick]

uh no...scabs fly struck work.

I know this. But people have come up with their own definition of scabs, and flying furloughed work now falls under the "new millenium" definition.

 

[wmuflyguy]

I know this. But people have come up with their own definition of scabs, and flying furloughed work now falls under the "new millenium" definition.

Then almost all regional pilots are scabs as we are/were flying routes that were once flown by mainline planes while those pilots were furloughed.

That is why I can't get on board with the RJDC. They were pissed about scope and saying it restricts their job opportunities while Delta was furloughing. They wanted bigger airplanes that would have resulted in more furloughs from the majors.

Now they are bent that we are shrinking and mainline may add bigger aircraft, thus creating more mainline jobs. Even though they could apply for the higher paying jobs.

 

[DX Rick]

Then almost all regional pilots are scabs as we were flying routes that were once flown by mainline planes while those pilots were furloughed.

Agreed, but that's how stupid people have gotten with the definition.
My first post about the NWA guys was loaded with sarcasm.

 

[sweptback]

We'll see if he can produce the facts.

He never does. He makes inflammatory statements, claims to have some sort of damning information, but when people call him on his BS he goes and hides until everybody forgets.

The thing is, he makes some good points from time to time... he just doesn't do it in the right way.

 

[DX Rick]

He never does. He makes inflammatory statements, claims to have some sort of damning information, but when people call him on his BS he goes and hides until everybody forgets.

The thing is, he makes some good points from time to time... he just doesn't do it in the right way.

Unless this guy AF, is completely insane. He has to have some kind of source where he got all these accusations of what's going to happen...NWA flowback to Comair, Compass and MEsaba.
His memo was pretty big and detailed. Not just something you can lie about and continue to show your face at work every day.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Please post it then.

I have a copy of it....It is NWA LOA 2006-10 and it was included in the new DAL JPWA....It is an Adobe document so I can't cut and paste it.....If anyone wants a copy, you can PM with an email address and I will send you a copy.

On Oct. 24, RJDC sent ALPA a letter requesting clarification on whether or not it includes ASA or CMR....There has been no response from ALPA...I have a copy of that letter too if anyone wants it....

 

[JoeMerchant]

Nice try! Maybe next time you check the facts.

.....check out NWA LOA 2006-10 that was incorporated into the DAL JPWA....

 

[JoeMerchant]

He never does. He makes inflammatory statements, claims to have some sort of damning information, but when people call him on his BS he goes and hides until everybody forgets.

The thing is, he makes some good points from time to time... he just doesn't do it in the right way.

I have produced the LOA before...I have a copy of it and I'm sure you have access to it also.....It is NWA LOA 2006-10 and it was incorporated into the DAL JPWA.....

What way would you prefer my "good points" to be made? I'm not a politician....I don't sugar coat things or tell people what they want to hear.....

Tell me what "the right way" is?

 

[SSDD]

Oh Noooooo. You just mentioned RJDC! Even if everything you said is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, that acronym alone will generate at least a dozen posts.