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The_Russian said:
What becomes of you, believer? You can't answer that, can you? I respect your religious path. However, you can never know if one is wrong or right about such things. The human mind cannot fathom existence at this time in history.

What becomes of me? Well i would go to heaven. So there you have it, I answered your question. The deal is I dont have any problem with non believers, if you dont want to believe than dont. However, some people like to tell us not to pray for this FO and that i have a problem with.

Secondly you say i can never know if i am right or wrong about this, well i respectfully disagree. You see I am a Believer in Christ, therefor whether you think I am wrong or not, that doesnt change that i believe, which in turn makes me not wrong in my mind because i Believe. Hopefully that makes sense in some way.

Good Night:beer:
 
skiandsurf said:
I go with my wife to her Catholic Church. A couple of things there make me laugh.

First. When they pass the bucket for money, they take MY money regardless if I am Catholic or not. But one time, some how, I got in the line for "crackers and punch". I obviously didnt know the "seceret hand shake", and was told I couldnt get my crackers. They didnt have a problem taking my money though.

Second. The church we go to has a terrible parking problem. So during the service, they do the "peace be with you" and shake hands with everyone as if they care about each other. Then after church they go in the parking lot and honk horns and yell at each other.


Mr. Polehinke, we are thinking about you. Get well soon.

Uh, yeah...the Catholic church is the only one that takes your money. It is to laugh. Dingbat....
 
Arguements like this one is why we are under attack by terrorist. People thinking they have all the right answers, and anyone with a different opionion should change it or die. All peolple should live in accordance with one thought, are my actions resulting negative outcomes in myself or another person. If the answer is no, then the lifestyle should be justified pure. Why care what another chooses to believes in, as long as what they choose promotes moral character in themselves and others. Why do we always get hung up on a certain 'path' to attaining our moral goals. I only ask that we end up there together. Why care what 'path 'gets you there. Some of us need a structured 'path', that's great, but others of us don't.

Drink and live responsibly.
 
Wow, some of you guys must be a blast to fly with. I am waiting for someone to explain that dinasours never existed because there is no reference of them in the "good book". The intolorence of other view points by some "believers" never ceases to amaze me.
 
There's some evidence of dinosaurs in the Bible. Regardless, it never says there wasn't. More interstingly there's some who believe the Bible refers to an alien visitation in one of its passages.

Please get the facts before you try to stir the pot.
 
How exactly has this thread gotten to an arguement about religion? It is about the CMR FO waking up. Wish him your best. Pray for him if that's what you believe in. Pray to God, the sun, the moon, a rock, or a blade of grass. If you don't believe, then say a kind work for him before you go to bed. Keep him in your thoughts, and wish him well. He has a terrible time ahead of him, both physically and emotionally. He needs all the support that he can get, from ALL of us.
 
StaySeated said:
Wow, some of you guys must be a blast to fly with. I am waiting for someone to explain that dinasours never existed because there is no reference of them in the "good book". The intolorence of other view points by some "believers" never ceases to amaze me.

Lots of non-believers show plenty of intolerance of the other peoples view points.
 
Jetz said:
I pity you and your soul.

Why don't you take 2 minutes tomorrow, and everyday thereafter, to read the Bible.

I would not say it was God's will that the crash happened. I would, however, say that it was God's will that Polehinke survived.

Hhhmm...I'm a slow reader...this way I'd never even get through the first chapter.

What makes you think Bible is right though?

And if it were God's will that Polehinke survived, why didn't 'your' god allow him to survive that accident wihout pain and every bone broken in his body, and why did your God allowed others to 'burn beyong recognition'?

Of course your answer would be '...God is mysterious' since you can't really answer this questions logically, can ya?

And please, I ask you, request you NOT to pity me and my soul. Thank you!
 
Where have you been?

foofighter145 said:
From George Carlin

In the Bullsh$t Department, a businessman can't hold a candle to a clergyman.
'Cause I gotta tell you the truth, folks. When it comes to bullsh$t,
big-time, major league bullsh$t, you have to stand in awe of the all-time
champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No
contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullsh$t story ever told.
Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an
invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute
of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does
not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special
place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he
will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry
forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money!
He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't
handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and
they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullsh$t story.
Holy Sh$t

But I want you to know something, this is sincere, I want you to know, when
it comes to believing in God, I really tried. I really, really tried. I tried
to believe that there is a God, who created each of us in His own image and
likeness, loves us very much, and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried
to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look
around, the more you realize, something is f$cked up.

Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth,
poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is
definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am
not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme
Being. This is the kind of sh$t you'd expect from an office temp with a bad
attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy
would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I
say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if
there is a God, it has to be a man.

No woman could or would ever f$ck things up like this. So, if there is a God,
I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent,
and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a sh$t. Doesn't give a sh$t, which I
admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.

So rather than be just another mindless religious robot, mindlessly and
aimlessly and blindly believing that all of this is in the hands of some
spooky incompetent father figure who doesn't give a sh$t, I decided to look
around for something else to worship. Something I could really count on.

And immediately, I thought of the sun. Happened like that. Overnight I became
a sun-worshipper. Well, not overnight, you can't see the sun at night. But
first thing the next morning, I became a sun-worshipper. Several reasons.
First of all, I can see the sun, okay? Unlike some other gods I could
mention, I can actually see the sun. I'm big on that. If I can see something,
I don't know, it kind of helps the credibility along, you know? So everyday I
can see the sun, as it gives me everything I need; heat, light, food, flowers
in the park, reflections on the lake, an occasional skin cancer, but hey. At
least there are no crucifixions, and we're not setting people on fire simply
because they don't agree with us.

Sun worship is fairly simple. There's no mystery, no miracles, no pageantry,
no one asks for money, there are no songs to learn, and we don't have a
special building where we all gather once a week to compare clothing. And the
best thing about the sun, it never tells me I'm unworthy. Doesn't tell me I'm
a bad person who needs to be saved. Hasn't said an unkind word. Treats me
fine. So, I worship the sun. But, I don't pray to the sun. Know why? I
wouldn't presume on our friendship. It's not polite.

I've often thought people treat God rather rudely, don't you? Asking
trillions and trillions of prayers every day. Asking and pleading and begging
for favors. Do this, gimme that, I need a new car, I want a better job. And
most of this praying takes place on Sunday His day off. It's not nice. And
it's no way to treat a friend.

But people do pray, and they pray for a lot of different things, you know,
your sister needs an operation on her crotch, your brother was arrested for
defecating in a mall. But most of all, you'd really like to f$ck that hot
little redhead down at the convenience store. You know, the one with the
eyepatch and the clubfoot? Can you pray for that? I think you'd have to. And
I say, fine. Pray for anything you want. Pray for anything, but what about
the Divine Plan?

Remember that? The Divine Plan. Long time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave
it a lot of thought, decided it was a good plan, put it into practice. And
for billions and billions of years, the Divine Plan has been doing just fine.
Now, you come along, and pray for something. Well suppose the thing you want
isn't in God's Divine Plan? What do you want Him to do? Change His plan? Just
for you? Doesn't it seem a little arrogant? It's a Divine Plan. What's the
use of being God if every run-down shmuck with a two-dollar prayerbook can
come along and f$ck up Your Plan?

And here's something else, another problem you might have: Suppose your
prayers aren't answered. What do you say? "Well, it's God's will." "Thy Will
Be Done." Fine, but if it's God's will, and He's going to do what He wants to
anyway, why the f$ck bother praying in the first place? Seems like a big
waste of time to me! Couldn't you just skip the praying part and go right to
His Will? It's all very confusing.

So to get around a lot of this, I decided to worship the sun. But, as I said,
I don't pray to the sun. You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Two reasons:
First of all, I think he's a good actor, okay? To me, that counts. Second, he
looks like a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn't f$ck around. In
fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that God was having
trouble with.

For years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the
barking dog, Joe Pesci straightened that cocksucker out with one visit. It's
amazing what you can accomplish with a simple baseball bat.

So I've been praying to Joe for about a year now. And I noticed something. I
noticed that all the prayers I used to offer to God, and all the prayers I
now offer to Joe Pesci, are being answered at about the same 50% rate. Half
the time I get what I want, half the time I don't. Same as God, 50-50. Same
as the four-leaf clover and the horseshoe, the wishing well and the rabbit's
foot, same as the Mojo Man, same as the Voodoo Lady who tells you your
fortune by squeezing the goat's testicles, it's all the same: 50-50. So just
pick your superstition, sit back, make a wish, and enjoy yourself.

And for those of you who look to The Bible for moral lessons and literary
qualities, I might suggest a couple of other stories for you. You might want
to look at the Three Little Pigs, that's a good one. Has a nice happy ending,
I'm sure you'll like that. Then there's Little Red Riding Hood, although it
does have that X-rated part where the Big Bad Wolf actually eats the
grandmother. Which I didn't care for, by the way.

And finally, I've always drawn a great deal of moral comfort from Humpty
Dumpty. The part I like the best? "All the king's horses and all the king's
men couldn't put Humpty Dumpty back together again." That's because there is
no Humpty Dumpty, and there is no God. None, not one, no God, never was. In
fact, I'm gonna put it this way. If there is a God, may he strike this
audience dead! See? Nothing happened. Nothing happened? Everybody's okay? All
right, tell you what, I'll raise the stakes a little bit. If there is a God,
may he strike me dead. See? Nothing happened, oh, wait, I've got a little
cramp in my leg. And my balls hurt. Plus, I'm blind. I'm blind, oh, now I'm
okay again, must have been Joe Pesci, huh? God Bless Joe Pesci. Thank you all
very much. Joe Bless You!

Oh my, oh my, oh my.

You have no idea how long I have waited for someone like you! Thank you, thank you, thank you! What a post! I read it and I HAVE to tell you I have not laughed this hard in about over a year. I'm sitting here in my office laughing like a mad women reading your incredible post. For so long, I was looking for a good 'argument' and you covered it all. So very well said!

Beautiful logic, incredible sense of humor, and pure facts.
Thank you!

This is one post I will copy and keep it for those who try to impose their religion on me. This is the one I will keep forever. Thanks!

Sorry to cut this reply short, I need to go back to your post and read it again.

You have got to have your own page somewhere...PM me if you do.
Keep up the good job. Welcome to the club!

I have become a 'Sun Worshiper'!
Bunny
 
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Superpilot92 said:
HOW IS THE FO?

That is exactly what this thread needs to be about. Not an attack on him for speaking of God.[/quote]

No body attacked the F/O for speaking or mentioning 'God'.
Where did you get that?
 
acaTerry said:
You are beyond ignorant...take your argument to NASA, who conducted so darn many studies on this issue that the evidence is conclusive. Fatigue goes beyond how much rest you were scheduled for. Circadian rhythmms, time zone changes, light, and other factors make the equation...not a determined amount of "rest".
But I guess in all your 1250 hours that you know more than NASA....

And with your 5,500 (unverified) hours, Sir/Ma'am, you know more than NASA, right?
 
FlyBunny said:
Oh my, oh my, oh my.

You have no idea how long I have waited for someone like you! Thank you, thank you, thank you! What a post! I read it and I HAVE to tell you I have not laughed this hard in about over a year. I'm sitting here in my office laughing like a mad women reading your incredible post. For so long, I was looking for a good 'argument' and you covered it all. So very well said!

Beautiful logic, incredible sense of humor, and pure facts.
Thank you!

This is one post I will copy and keep it for those who try to impose their religion on me. This is the one I will keep forever. Thanks!

Sorry to cut this reply short, I need to go back to your post and read it again.

You have got to have your own page somewhere...PM me if you do.
Keep up the good job. Welcome to the club!

I have become a 'Sun Worshiper'!
Bunny

Perhaps you ought to try going to Google and typing in "George Carlin." If you like that one, you'll love a whole lot more of his 'teachings.'

-Blucher
 
mynameisjim said:
Are you saying the FO survived because he recently read the bible? I guess the other 49 people haven't read it recently. I bet they wish they were airline pilots with a free bible in every room. Had they read it they would have survived as well.

Right on!

:)
 
capt. megadeth said:
ROTFLMAO! Yeah....I'll be right on that.

Foofighter: great post! Some of the biggest "religious" people I have met have been THE BIGGEST F'ING HIPPOCRITES IN THE WORLD.

Indeed one of the 'best' posts I have ever read anywhere on any forums.

I agree with you about the 'BIGGEST F'ING HIPPOCRITES' thing. You couldn't have said it better!

Thanks,
Bunny
 
FlyBunny said:
Oh my, oh my, oh my.

You have no idea how long I have waited for someone like you! Thank you, thank you, thank you! What a post! I read it and I HAVE to tell you I have not laughed this hard in about over a year. I'm sitting here in my office laughing like a mad women reading your incredible post. For so long, I was looking for a good 'argument' and you covered it all. So very well said!

Beautiful logic, incredible sense of humor, and pure facts.
Thank you!

This is one post I will copy and keep it for those who try to impose their religion on me. This is the one I will keep forever. Thanks!

Sorry to cut this reply short, I need to go back to your post and read it again.

You have got to have your own page somewhere...PM me if you do.
Keep up the good job. Welcome to the club!

I have become a 'Sun Worshiper'!
Bunny

I also nearly wet my pants reading that post.

The way it's written made me think of someone like Jeff Goldblum reading it or something :)
 
Sig said:
Umm, yeah. What if he was reading the USAToday that morning instead? What if that newspaper had something un-christian somewhere in the op-ed section, and the capricious big man upstairs opened up a can of smite-all on these poor folks and used the FO as an instrument of His Will?

Yup, just as stupid to think he's alive for reading the Good Book earlier that day.

My favorite letter of all time:
Dear Dr. Laura:

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the other specific laws and how to follow them:

When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15:19- 24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.

Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we
do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Jim


Ya know, it's just absurd. This guy has one HECK of a tough life ahead of him, and he has to find peace. I hope he recovers.

Loved your post.

Better watch out though, you don't have 'enough' Total Flight Time mentioned in your profile to be taken serioulsy on this forum.
 
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FlyBunny said:
Oh my, oh my, oh my.

You have no idea how long I have waited for someone like you! Thank you, thank you, thank you! What a post! I read it and I HAVE to tell you I have not laughed this hard in about over a year. I'm sitting here in my office laughing like a mad women reading your incredible post. For so long, I was looking for a good 'argument' and you covered it all. So very well said!

Beautiful logic, incredible sense of humor, and pure facts.
Thank you!

This is one post I will copy and keep it for those who try to impose their religion on me. This is the one I will keep forever. Thanks!

Sorry to cut this reply short, I need to go back to your post and read it again.

You have got to have your own page somewhere...PM me if you do.
Keep up the good job. Welcome to the club!

I have become a 'Sun Worshiper'!
Bunny

First off I will say to each their own but,

isnt it odd that you get so excited about a post of Carlins thoughts and you state them as PURE FACTS!! Yet have you taken any time to educate yourselve on the bible? I truley hope that some day you do take the time to seek meaning and truth in the bible and get excited about that.


Disclaimer: Again I dont think down apon anyone who doesnt share my beliefs, I am simply sharing my opinions. ;)
 
aussieflyboy said:
I also nearly wet my pants reading that post.

The way it's written made me think of someone like Jeff Goldblum reading it or something :)

All right, seriously guys and gals, you've got to get out more. This is some classic comedy from George Carlin. Perhaps you've heard of him? He's been performing since the 1960's, I believe. Go rent yourself some videos of his stand-up. The man is nothing short of a comic genius. If you youngin's still don't know who he his, perhaps you saw him playing the role of the Catholic Preist in "Dogma," I believe he was also in one of the "Scary Movies" as well, or perhaps you've seen him in "Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure." He is perhaps 70+ years old at this point, and still just as sharp as ever.

www.georgecarlin.com

-Blucher:beer:
 
bvt1151 said:
That's got nothing to do with Christianity.


Oh...so it's OK for 'God believing' folks to HATE other people created by the same god?

Of course having sex with young boys in churches has nothing to do with Christianity either, right?

Get it...they are not even ordinary mortals like you and me, but specially chosen priests...who teach god's word.

Interesting!

The point foofigher is making is that most people who vehemently preach their belief in god and Christianity (and other religions; Islam, Judaism, etc.) are the ones who are some of the most flagrant violators of the same values they teach.
 
Matty4me said:
To the posting above:
You sir/ma'am are an idiot. The one individual that needs prayer is you. The F/O is getting the prayer that he needs from others. What is ashame is that you believe that evolution is beginning, man is supreme, we did this...
The problem is that you have not been touched by the Holy Spirit. Hell needs people like you.

You Ma'am are an epitome of someone who preaches their beliefs on other and of if this conversation were taking place few hundred years before, you'd be the first one to 'burn' me (us - non believers) because we don't agree with you.

The compassion your (and other religions) religion show is astonishing!

And what did I do not to get 'touched by the Holy Spirit? I was born in to a devout Catholic family?
 
MCDU said:
Some of you guys think like the taliban. I guess I am an infidel because this talk about God is really getting on my nerves.
Tell me this. Who created God? What was before God?
This crap with Allah (God) is getting old and is dragging the United States back in to the middle ages. The more advanced a nation, the less need for Allah. Comair guys screwed up. Sh$t happens. I feel for all those affected. Good luck to all the guys at Comair and a speedy recovery for the FO.

Peace

Marty

Right on!
 
FlyBunny said:
Oh...so it's OK for 'God believing' folks to HATE other people created by the same god?

Of course having sex with young boys in churches has nothing to do with Christianity either, right?

Get it...they are not even ordinary mortals like you and me, but specially chosen priests...who teach god's word.

Interesting!

The point foofigher is making is that most people who vehemently preach their belief in god and Christianity (and other religions; Islam, Judaism, etc.) are the ones who are some of the most flagrant violators of the same values they teach.

I am a believer and at no time have i or will i hate anyone that doesnt believe. To each there own i say. I dont think you will find a true believer and follower of Christ ever say they HATE a nonbeliever. Again thats my opinion.

You are showing how small minded you are by that post. Out of the entire Population of Priests, Pastors, Holy men/Woman etc, that because of a few bad ducks the whole religion is bad? So i suppose than since some one murdered someone today somewhere in the world that you yourself are a murderer? Because someone does something wrong, Which i totally agree is wrong, does not mean that everyone is like that.
 
FlyBunny said:
Right on!

i would love to hear some of your thoughts on this subject, would you mind expressing some instead of reposting what others have said. I love a good discussion.:beer:
 
Superpilot92 said:
First off I will say to each their own but,

isnt it odd that you get so excited about a post of Carlins thoughts and you state them as PURE FACTS!! Yet have you taken any time to educate yourselve on the bible? I truley hope that some day you do take the time to seek meaning and truth in the bible and get excited about that.


Disclaimer: Again I dont think down apon anyone who doesnt share my beliefs, I am simply sharing my opinions. ;)

You have no idea, friend, how much I read it growing up. It was imposed on me at home, in the church, in school...every where.

Wow...I never knew Carlin was a comedian...oh my...what was I thinking...I must not have been born, raized, and lived in the US...or other English speaking countries.
 

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