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Superpilot92 said:
I am a believer and at no time have i or will i hate anyone that doesnt believe. To each there own i say. I dont think you will find a true believer and follower of Christ ever say they HATE a nonbeliever. Again thats my opinion.

You are showing how small minded you are by that post. Out of the entire Population of Priests, Pastors, Holy men/Woman etc, that because of a few bad ducks the whole religion is bad? So i suppose than since some one murdered someone today somewhere in the world that you yourself are a murderer? Because someone does something wrong, Which i totally agree is wrong, does not mean that everyone is like that.

Few? Do you read much?
 
FlyBunny said:
You have no idea, friend, how much I read it growing up. It was imposed on me at home, in the church, in school...every where.

Wow...I never knew Carlin was a comedian...oh my...what was I thinking...I must not have been born, raized, and lived in the US...or other English speaking countries.

Do you think you rebel against it because it was forced on you as a child? See it wasnt forced on me, my parents took us to church every now and again growing up. I choose to believe as an adult was in no way forced into my beliefs. I am sorry that it was forced on you. I for one dont believe that it should be forced on anyone. People need to believe on their own not because others tell them they should. Just my thoughts.:)
 
FlyBunny said:
Oh...so it's OK for 'God believing' folks to HATE other people created by the same god?

Of course having sex with young boys in churches has nothing to do with Christianity either, right?

Get it...they are not even ordinary mortals like you and me, but specially chosen priests...who teach god's word.

Interesting!

The point foofigher is making is that most people who vehemently preach their belief in god and Christianity (and other religions; Islam, Judaism, etc.) are the ones who are some of the most flagrant violators of the same values they teach.

So what?

Hitler believed in gravity. So did Stalin. They are arguably the worst people in recent history. Because bad people believed in gravity does that mean it doesn't exist?

US mililtary personell fire-bombed Dresden and killed hundreds of thousands in Hiroshima and Nagasaki all to protect the American way of life. Do those horrific attacks make the US a figment of our imagination?

Of course not.

Both the Allies and the Axis claimed God was on their side and that they were acting according to his will. Obviously somebody was wrong. The point is that just saying you're doing what God wants doesn't make it true, and it definitely doesn't mean He doesn't exist.

So why would you base the existence of God on what other people say or do? If God really does exist, do you think He would change dependent upon what people said He was like, or what people said He wanted them to do? If everyone said the sky is red, would that make it red? It's a rediculous notion.

What people say about God or what they do in His name is entirely irrelevant to whether or not God actually exists and what He's really like.

George says Paul wants him to go on a shooting spree. That's bad. I guess Paul doesn't exist.

Now that's some screwed-up reasoning.
 
FlyBunny said:
Few? Do you read much?

So you imply that all Pastors, and priests are that way? Hardly. Besides you hear about the bad apples on the news not so much about the good ones. The news is that 90% bad things To Generalize Religion based on those bad priests is a pretty lame stance if you ask me.
 
This is nonsense, it seems we are divided about 50/50 and nobody is really going to change their feelings on the matter based upon something they read at a pilot forum.
Some people think other people are crazy to believe in God, other people think people are crazy not to. I happen to be one of the former, but I've spent countless hours of my life trying to impose my thoughts on others and I've probably spent 4 or 5 hours in this THREAD ALONE, and I'm not spending any more...

So, GOOD DAY TO YOU ALL

;)
 
Flybunny,

Never mind about Carlin. You'd probably be offended by much of his comedy because it deals with the proper use of the English language.
Carry on, everyone. Would someone please start a new thread if you can actually definitively answer the God question? Thanks.
Also, good luck to the FO, as his pain is only just beginning.

-Blucher:rolleyes:
 
All.
This thread is about the condition of the FO, not your personal religious beliefs. Lets all try to get this thread back on track.....please.
 
"I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the kind that we experience in ourselves. Neither can I nor would I want to conceive of an individual that survives his physical death; let feeble souls, from fear or absurd egoism, cherish such thoughts. I am satisfied with the mystery of the eternity of life and with the awareness and a glimpse of the marvelous structure of the existing world, together with the devoted striving to comprehend a portion, be it ever so tiny, of the Reason that manifests itself in nature."
[Albert Einstein,_The World as I See It_]
 
mynameisjim said:
Are you saying the FO survived because he recently read the bible? I guess the other 49 people haven't read it recently. I bet they wish they were airline pilots with a free bible in every room. Had they read it they would have survived as well.

No, smarty pants Jim, I'm NOT saying that, you're getting squirelly on me {c;. One of the Columbine killers asked a girl classmate who was an active Christian if she still believed in God, she replied "Yes" and got a fatal bullet for it.

Bad things happen to good people all the time, and vice-versa. Where is the justice in this world? This common lament expressed by humanity is found in many books of the Bible.

I'm just presuming that James was and is in at least a period of spritual searching. I'm not even stating as fact that he is a Christian, just hoping and presuming so.
 
I love the age old "I'm not going to be a Christian because everyone that I know who are Christians are hypocrites". What does everyone else have to do with you? Good luck explaining that one when the day comes.
 
We'll all find out soon enough.....
 
2012?

Got it, kids. Maybe we won't have to worry about bank accounts and credit card balances anymore. Bring it on and let it end.
 
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SkyBoy1981 said:
Good luck explaining that one when the day comes.

Well, since it is said that God is all forgiving, I guess he/she will forgive me for being an agnostic "when the time comes"
 
Superpilot92 said:
All i can say is god bless you and people like me are here to pray for people like you. You still have time to at least try and understand instead of thinking you are smarter than everyone else. What if you are wrong? That sure is the wrong thing to be wrong about if you know what i mean. I used to be skeptical myself, ever since i put my life into christ and the church my life has totally changed. Good luck

Well said....I second that.
 
capt. megadeth said:
Well, since it is said that God is all forgiving, I guess he/she will forgive me for being an agnostic "when the time comes"

MEGA...

I do find interesting that people that push Jesus and God seem to lack the very pateince, understanding and compassion that they are pushing...
 
405 said:
2012?

Got it, kids. Maybe we won't have to worry about bank accounts and credit card balances anymore. Bring it on and let it end.

So the Rapture happens in 2012? That means we have to put up with all of the religious wackos for another SIX YEARS?!

Gad, the thought is almost enough to drive one to religion. Does God hear prayers from agnostics?

C
 
Corona said:
Does God hear prayers from agnostics?

All I know is agnostics come knocking on your door, but they just aren't sure why.

ANY NEWS ON THE FO's RECOVERY?
 
Rez O. Lewshun said:
MEGA...

I do find interesting that people that push Jesus and God seem to lack the very pateince, understanding and compassion that they are pushing...

I like the bumper sticker "God save me from your followers" :confused:
 
I can tell that there are many people on this site who are very knowledgeable about the Bible . . . interesting that those who know nothing about it are the first to discredit it.

For those who don't know, Romans 1 tells us that through conscience, a brain, eyes, reason, and being able to use those looking at the world around us, God has GIVEN us the ability to discover who he is - so much so that we are WITHOUT EXCUSE.

Therefore, there is no point in arguing whether God exists - you have had it planted in your brain to a degree that God will hold you accountable for it. Sorry, I didn't invent that - Paul simply declares this.

If you still are not able to admit that God exists, that is because you have, on your own, SUPPRESSED (is the language of the text, not mine) that truth IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS. That is to say, there is a point beyond which, by choosing not to believe, you no longer can believe.

You have chosen to poke your own spiritual eyes out. You are still accountable with the talents you were given before the Master went away.
 
Turtlesfly said:
I can tell that there are many people on this site who are very knowledgeable about the Bible . . . interesting that those who know nothing about it are the first to discredit it.

For those who don't know, Romans 1 tells us that through conscience, a brain, eyes, reason, and being able to use those looking at the world around us, God has GIVEN us the ability to discover who he is - so much so that we are WITHOUT EXCUSE.

Therefore, there is no point in arguing whether God exists - you have had it planted in your brain to a degree that God will hold you accountable for it. Sorry, I didn't invent that - Paul simply declares this.

If you still are not able to admit that God exists, that is because you have, on your own, SUPPRESSED (is the language of the text, not mine) that truth IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS. That is to say, there is a point beyond which, by choosing not to believe, you no longer can believe.

You have chosen to poke your own spiritual eyes out. You are still accountable with the talents you were given before the Master went away.
All this drivel from a guy with "need a room check?" under his name? typical. thanks for the f'ing sermon. now piss off.

turning a thread asking about an injured guy into a bible thumping session that NOBODY asked for or cares about.....typical self righteous BS!
 
Sig said:
All I know is agnostics come knocking on your door, but they just aren't sure why.

ANY NEWS ON THE FO's RECOVERY?

It's to get you to turn down the accordion music.

The FO has survived this far; looks like he'll make it. I don't envy him the next few years, though.

C
 
Turtlesfly said:
You have chosen to poke your own spiritual eyes out. You are still accountable with the talents you were given before the Master went away.

Sorry, Turtledude; religion has little to do with spirituality. Opposite ends of the spectrum, actually.

C
 
FORESTGUMP said:
All this drivel from a guy with "need a room check?" under his name? typical. thanks for the f'ing sermon. now piss off.

Exactly! Typical.

It's like blah blah blah blah blah
 
FORESTGUMP said:
All this drivel from a guy with "need a room check?" under his name? typical. thanks for the f'ing sermon. now piss off.

turning a thread asking about an injured guy into a bible thumping session that NOBODY asked for or cares about.....typical self righteous BS!

CHEAP SHOT! Your dirty mind interpreted that wrongly, and you just found his statement as a poor excuse to label him unfairly as a hyprocrite. He's innocent.

Room checks are a good thing to do, they ensure a little more security and safety for female crew members. In the past a Pinnacle FA was attacked and raped from inside her hotel, and this year AWAC switched hotels in MKE after an FA was attacked by a hotel employe who was a registered and convicted sexual offender.
 

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