Comair FO awakens

[mynameisjim]

Word is, he had been reading the Bible regularly in the recent past. God regularly uses tragedy to bring Glory to himself.

Are you saying the FO survived because he recently read the bible? I guess the other 49 people haven't read it recently. I bet they wish they were airline pilots with a free bible in every room. Had they read it they would have survived as well.

 

[capt. megadeth]

Why don't you take 2 minutes tomorrow, and everyday thereafter, to read the Bible.

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ROTFLMAO! Yeah....I'll be right on that.

Foofighter: great post! Some of the biggest "religious" people I have met have been THE BIGGEST F'ING HIPPOCRITES IN THE WORLD.

 

[The_Russian]

I take two minutes a day to whack it!

 

[bvt1151]

There is a God, as said before

Your opinion....

Even Steven Hawking has admitted that some intelligent force had to have started the big bang.

 

[capt. megadeth]

I think you meant to say, all we can do is stay current, get enough rest, and avoid complacency at all costs and understand that mistakes happen and we should learn from this one and hope this pilot can live a somewhat normal life

Amen bro!

 

[Sig]

Umm, yeah. What if he was reading the USAToday that morning instead? What if that newspaper had something un-christian somewhere in the op-ed section, and the capricious big man upstairs opened up a can of smite-all on these poor folks and used the FO as an instrument of His Will?

Yup, just as stupid to think he's alive for reading the Good Book earlier that day.

My favorite letter of all time:
Dear Dr. Laura:

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the other specific laws and how to follow them:

When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15:19- 24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.

Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we
do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Jim


Ya know, it's just absurd. This guy has one HECK of a tough life ahead of him, and he has to find peace. I hope he recovers.

 

[CFIse]

You are beyond ignorant...take your argument to NASA, who conducted so darn many studies on this issue that the evidence is conclusive. Fatigue goes beyond how much rest you were scheduled for. Circadian rhythmms, time zone changes, light, and other factors make the equation...not a determined amount of "rest".
But I guess in all your 1250 hours that you know more than NASA....

You're kidding me - you're really going to argue that these guys were fatigued at the time of the accident? I don't deny fatigue exists, I categorically deny that it was a factor in the Comair accident.

They *MIGHT* have been fatigued by noon, but they never got to noon, so we'll never know.

 

[The_Russian]

You're kidding me - you're really going to argue that these guys were fatigued at the time of the accident? I don't deny fatigue exists, I categorically deny that it was a factor in the Comair accident.

They *MIGHT* have been fatigued by noon, but they never got to noon, so we'll never know.

Are you not reading? Fatigue can be caused and related to more things than just time and rest periods. Even humidity levels can cause fatigue!

 

[The_Russian]

BTW, we are not kidding you.

 

[foofighter145]

ROTFLMAO! Yeah....I'll be right on that.

Foofighter: great post! Some of the biggest "religious" people I have met have been THE BIGGEST F'ING HIPPOCRITES IN THE WORLD.

I hear you, most guys I fly with talk all holy roller christian sh$t and I sit back and don't say anything...then they start bashing the Jews, Blacks, - only they use the K and N words oggling the ass on the flight attendant and flirting while they have a wife and kid at home....I'm not impressed at all by this so called "religious" group...

 

[bvt1151]

I hear you, most guys I fly with talk all holy roller christian sh$t and I sit back and don't say anything...then they start bashing the Jews, Blacks, - only they use the K and N words oggling the ass on the flight attendant and flirting while they have a wife and kid at home....I'm not impressed at all by this so called "religious" group...

That's got nothing to do with Christianity.

 

[foofighter145]

No but they represent it and at about an 85% majority

 

[voetsak]

Joe Cespedes has let me down.....

Joe Pesci.....Never!!!

Carlin is by far one of the best modern philosophers in our day, and if people would quit hiding behind thier crosses, and prayer mats...they might actually see the light in something else and quit wasting time for an afterlife to never come...

And no one needs to pray for me......Im fine, football season is starting!!

the funny ironic thing with you "non-believers" is how LOUDLY you scream when someone mentions their faith, all the while pointing fingers at them. seems like the actions of someone who has a pretty big question mark in their lives.......enjoy football

 

[Matty4me]

Are you kidding me? Are you that ignorant?

There is no god. Why can't people undestand that things/accidents just happen due to error? The 4 year old little girl was run over by a car because of the driver not because it's a god's will. The crash in LEX happened because a mistake was made not because of a god's will. Did s god plan to kill all those folks? Ridiculous! It has nothing to do with a god. Belief in a god goes back thousands of years just to explain things that could not be explained at that time but we are smarter now and know better. People just don't want to be responsible whether good or bad.

How many of you god fearing people are really angry at this post at this moment? Just think about it for 2 minutes tomorrow......

To the posting above:
You sir/ma'am are an idiot. The one individual that needs prayer is you. The F/O is getting the prayer that he needs from others. What is ashame is that you believe that evolution is beginning, man is supreme, we did this...
The problem is that you have not been touched by the Holy Spirit. Hell needs people like you.

 

[mynameisjim]

The F/O is getting the prayer that he needs from others.

Are you saying the FO needs prayer in order to survive? Will god kill him/let him die if people don't pray for him? Is survival just one big popularity contest?

 

[Matty4me]

Prayer can help

Are you saying the FO needs prayer in order to survive? Will god kill him/let him die if people don't pray for him? Is survival just one big popularity contest?

We pray for him and ask god that his life be recoverable and that he would then gain the understanding that he alone survived and that he might believe in the anointing of god's grace and mercy.

 

[bvt1151]

No but they represent it and at about an 85% majority

Then you're just as guilty at over-generalizing as they are.

[sacriligous sermon]
The thing that always makes me chuckle is the people who use the radical "Christians" as an excuse to deny God's existence. Don't confuse "church" with "religion" with "God." The first two are basically a sham to make people feel better, while the third is laughing his ass off at the first two (yes, He has quite a sense of humor. ). The popular view of God is that He's this ultra-protective mother-type who'll do anything from "letting" his kids get hurt. This parallels the rediculous trend you see in America now with over-protective parents wanting to do (and buy) anything for their kids. Even parts of the Bible have been sterilized to meet these preconceptions. Take Genesis 32 verse 25. It talks about a man named Jacob who meets a stranger in a dark ally and wrestles him for hours. The man ends up being God (this story is obviously a spiritual interpretation of some other event).

"When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacon's hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the man."

The original Hebrew that this was written in mentions nothing of a hip and socket. In fact a direct translation from Hebrew reveals that God actually kicked Jacob right square in the nuts!

What do you think those radical "Christians" would say if you told them God kicked Jacob in the nuts?

And that's my point. "Christians" may be missing the point entirely, but Jacob still got nailed in the twig and berries. Just because they're wrong about who He is, doesn't mean He isn't.

[/sacriligious sermon]

 

[skyslug]

Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing
in a garage makes you a car.

That being said Jim will need all our good Juju's/Karma/prayers sent his way...

 

[Ultra Grump]

People just don't want to be responsible whether good or bad.

So true, and the whole point of the discussion about "why did God do this to me?" People are always looking for someone else to blame for the things they do, refusing to take personal responsibility for screwing up.

Hey dingushead, who started it? Your fellow athiest. Now don't make this tragedy any worse.

Actually, TheRaven started it here in post #3:

Did anyone else get a different read on what he was asking about "Why did God do this to me".....his mother seemed to indicate that she thought he was asking why God caused the accident, but when i read it, it seemed like he was asking why God spared only him in this horrible accident.

You bible-thumpers can feel sorry for me all you want, just keep it to yourselves. I've also found the most God-fearing to be the biggest hypocrites.

 

[CFIse]

Are you not reading? Fatigue can be caused and related to more things than just time and rest periods. Even humidity levels can cause fatigue!

You have no reason to believe that any of those factors are related to this accident. Even if both pilots had only got 5 hours sleep that night they should still not have been fatigued 3 hours after they woke up.

I say again - this is not a fatigue accident, and trying to make it one just undermines all the issues that really exist around pilot fatigue.

 

[bvt1151]

You have no reason to believe that any of those factors are related to this accident. Even if both pilots had only got 5 hours sleep that night they should still not have been fatigued 3 hours after they woke up.

I say again - this is not a fatigue accident, and trying to make it one just undermines all the issues that really exist around pilot fatigue.

Circadian rythms have EVERYTHING to do with fatigue. Search long enough and you'll find a study of German Air Force pilots. One group was studied the same time each day, and the other was studied at various times, but with legal rest between each time. The obvious reason was to test the affect of circadian rythms.

The performance of the crews that went into the sim the same time each day had a slight increase in performance. The other crew had a drastically different issue. While performance didn't decrease uniformly, it was very irratic, and never exceeded the other (control) group. Their performance trended worse as the study went on. The interesting thing was that at times, their performance wasn't that much better than when they did the same study with drunk crews.

Circadian rythms have been proven to have a drastic affect on pilots.

 

[Motown]

Take Genesis 32 verse 25. It talks about a man named Jacob who meets a stranger in a dark ally and wrestles him for hours. The man ends up being God (this story is obviously a spiritual interpretation of some other event).

"When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacon's hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the man."

The original Hebrew that this was written in mentions nothing of a hip and socket. In fact a direct translation from Hebrew reveals that God actually kicked Jacob right square in the nuts!

Well, I certainly don't want to get into a religious discussion... I can't stand people who proselytize-- I don't bring up religion with others unless they ask, and don't appreciate when others try to convince me of their religious beliefs.

Having said that, you mentioned the text as written in the original Hebrew. As Jews read Torah in it's original language and form (handwritten scrolls in Hebrew), I thought you might appreciate knowing what is actually written.

The following link discusses the section you referenced: Genesis 32:15. (Genesis is called Bereishis in Hebrew. Observant Jews all over the world read the same Parshah (section) of the Torah (Bible) on the same day, and each week's Parshah is named... The second section of the Parsha (weekly section to be read) "Vayishlach" on December 4th this year will be Bereishis (Genesis) 32:11 to 32:30. The English translated text is on the left, and commentary is on the right.)

http://www.chabad.org/Parshah/Rashi/default.asp?tDate=12/4/2006&src=ds

More in-depth:

http://www.chabad.org/parshah/in-depth/default.asp?AID=35877

A variety of other links (including a link to the original Hebrew):

http://www.chabad.org/parshah/default.asp?AID=15554

 

[bvt1151]

Having said that, you mentioned the text as written in the original Hebrew. As Jews read Torah in it's original language and form (handwritten scrolls in Hebrew), I thought you might appreciate knowing what is actually written.

The translation came to me directly from a Doctoral Seminary Professor of Hebrew who was translating directly from the original scripts.

In your translation (which seems to stick to the literal meaning of "thigh"), the translator even concedes in the commentary that: "When the angel of Esau injured Jacob's hip-joint, he injured his righteous descendants."

Sounds like a shot to the family jewels to me.

 

[MCDU]

Some of you guys think like the taliban. I guess I am an infidel because this talk about God is really getting on my nerves.
Tell me this. Who created God? What was before God?
This crap with Allah (God) is getting old and is dragging the United States back in to the middle ages. The more advanced a nation, the less need for Allah. Comair guys screwed up. Sh$t happens. I feel for all those affected. Good luck to all the guys at Comair and a speedy recovery for the FO.

Peace

Marty

 

[Matty4me]

GOD Correction

Some of you guys think like the taliban. I guess I am an infidel because this talk about God is really getting on my nerves.
Tell me this. Who created God? What was before God?
This crap with Allah (God) is getting old and is dragging the United States back in to the middle ages. The more advanced a nation, the less need for Allah. Comair guys screwed up. Sh$t happens. I feel for all those affected. Good luck to all the guys at Comair and a speedy recovery for the FO.

Peace

Marty

You are totally getting things crossed about GOD. allah is a god and not the GOD. allah (name not worthy of capitalizing) was a god (of the moon) of many gods approx. 400-600 years ago that was made known by, then , a young man named mohammed.

 

[The_Russian]

Jesus Christ!

 

[Beanie]

To the posting above:
You sir/ma'am are an idiot. The one individual that needs prayer is you. The F/O is getting the prayer that he needs from others. What is ashame is that you believe that evolution is beginning, man is supreme, we did this...
The problem is that you have not been touched by the Holy Spirit. Hell needs people like you.

It makes me physically ill that someone would wish hell on another person under the pretense of Christianity. I am sure that these statements were not made by the direction of the Holy Spirit, but rather by the direction of someone who does nothing but try to warp the true nature of God. I sincerely apologize to the person that these comments were directed to. It is my prayer that comments like this do not push you farther away. This is not the how God feels about you.

 

[buscap]

What a bunch of idiots.

How about we all just hope/pray for the poor guy.

Then let's all thank whomever we please, we're not in his shoes.

 

[Aerosurfer]

Amen to that brother. I believe that God will be glorified in his life in the future. Word is, he had been reading the Bible regularly in the recent past. God regularly uses tragedy to bring Glory to himself. Remember the cruxifixion of Jesus Christ? (tragedy) How about his resurrection? (Glory!)

Anyway, what or who created the Universe? That entity was and is Almighty God. One of Newton's laws supposes to prove it, 'The cause of every reaction is an equal and opposite reaction'. You say "who created God?" Well, who created who created God, and on to infinity. That reasoning has to stop somewhere, and logically, it stops at God. So, God created the universe, and our galaxy, solar system, planet, and us humans by default, at the very least.

The question really to be asked is "Is God a personal or impersonal God?" And the answer is found in the person of Jesus Christ.

All this Is according to Uncyclopedia.org

Ummmm hello............ Both Pirate Ninja Jesus and Chuck Norris were responsible for the creation of the Milky Way

Poof, There It Is Theory is one of the most popular theories used to explain the creation of the universe. The theory is quite complex but it can be simplified to something like this: In the beginning, there was no universe, and then; POOF!
There it was.


The Universe

Science fiction writers argue contentiously about the origin and structure of the Universe. Many authors posit other "dimensions" which exist parallel to work-a-day reality, claiming that these unseen forces somehow kickstarted the Universe. However, quantum physicists studying subatomic particles (entities smaller than regular particles) conclude that the Universe must have been created. As Dr. Waingirth of New Sudsbury said, "With all our accelerators and colliders, we cannot make a single quark[1] unless we call upon God Himself."
This finding comes nearly 2,500 years after the Greek philosopher Idiocrates figured out that something must have gotten the ball rolling. Indeed, the Greek Word for this universal "prime mover" is primum mobile, or Premium Mobil Gasoline.
Remarkably prescient, those Greeks.
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Poof, There It Is!


Premise

Everything exists. Everything is. How did it get to be so? Poof: There It Is.
This explanation might seem very simple to some people. Well, it is simple! But others, troublemakers and doubting Thomases, ask "What causes a Poof?" and "What are a Poof's inner workings?"
However, there is nothing more to the Poof than the Poof itself. As the poet put it, "A poof is a poof is a poof." In a word, a Poof is. In two words, it is self-sufficient.
And yet...a Poof is not a spontaneous event. Far from it. We must understand a Poof as a meticulously-planned random event. If you understand that concept, then you have come one step closer to knowing the Poof. If not, try your luck here.
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Why is the Theory Called Poof, There It Is? Wouldn't Big Bang Sound Better?

No, it wouldn't. And besides, "Big Bang Theory" was already taken. The fallacious BB theory states that everyone wants to go out with a bang (or in layman's terms, die whilst getting laid.) Poof, There It Is Theory allows far more complexity than ordinary Big Bang Theory since it is the framework that holds the universe together, while the Big Bang just concerns sex. Poof, There It Is constitutes the cement — the rock-solid concrete — of the cosmos. Some people call Poof, There It Is "the new causation."
However, there is no way to apply the scientific method to Poof, There It Is. Academics dispute the validity of the premise, bickering, shouting, spilling tea down their shirtfronts. This works out well for Poof, There It Is: its universal framework explains the pedagogical academics and their sniveling as well.
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Consequences of Poof, There It Is

We know nothing of consequences in Poof, There It Is Theory. As we wrote previously, everything is and has been since the Poof. Quite simple, really. The theory negates cause and effect because everything is explained by Poof, There It Is.
Magictology is the only earthly religion that recognizes the validity of Poof, There It Is, and professional magictologists are sometimes called "poofters" for this very reason. In the realm of Poof There It Is, imagination rules, because everything bursts into existence through the mental faculties of the original Poofter.

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Several books have been released on the topic of Poof, There It Is, most notably this fictionalization of the matter by L. Ron Hubbard.


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How Did The First Poofter Poof?

We know nothing about the first Poof, except that it must have happened. If it hadn't happened, we would have never been Poofed, wouldn't be here, and therefore couldn't ask the question "How Did The First Poofer Poof?" Our existence proves that there must have been a first Poof. Most Poofters accept this "primum mobile" aspect of the theory, since it's true. Also, the competing "Blammo the Clown Theory" is just plain stupid, since balloon animals are so 1987
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Poofs and Dates

We have compiled a short list of things poofed into the Universe. A mighty Poof created the Universe itself, of course, so subsequent Poofs are second derivatives which exist only because of the First Poof.

• June 16, 2816 BC 6:15 PM Chinese Poofter Mai Tai poofs gunpowder into existence to make fireworks.
• August 4, 1101 4:28 AM Turkish Poofter Saladin poofs a trade route between Eastern Asia and Constantinople into existence.
• October 27, 1897 7:44 AM Jesus poofs His Second Coming into existence. However, unlike the previous Poofs, few people notice, and Jesus goes home to Kathmandu bitterly dissapointed.

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Hybrid Theory

Most recently in 2006, quantum poofologists have proposed a hybrid model known as the "Big Poof There It Is Theory", which is just like the regular Poof There It Is Theory, but adds the bigness associated with the classical Big Bang. It goes like this:
In the beginning, there was no universe, and then;

POOF!

There it was.

 

[Aerosurfer]

And as for God......


God (born Herschel Godstein) is possibly the best known fictional entity on Earth after The Beatles. He was elected to be our god for the 2006th year running this year, barely beating the Egyptian sun god Ra, Omnipotent Odin, and the Almighty Zeus (still recovering from alcoholism). He is also dog spelled backwards. As of the 3rd Qtr of 2005, the Republican Party claimed the largest share of ownership of God. It should be noted that God has been under the investigation of the SEC several times, because of the attempted claiming of two dependents, a supposed "Holy Spirit" and a "Son", who have never been seen by authorities. However, God has made the argument that as they exist on the same plane as himself, he can list them as dependents if he "damn well pleases".