Comair FO awakens

[Matty4me]

Prayer can help

Are you saying the FO needs prayer in order to survive? Will god kill him/let him die if people don't pray for him? Is survival just one big popularity contest?

We pray for him and ask god that his life be recoverable and that he would then gain the understanding that he alone survived and that he might believe in the anointing of god's grace and mercy.

 

[bvt1151]

No but they represent it and at about an 85% majority

Then you're just as guilty at over-generalizing as they are.

[sacriligous sermon]
The thing that always makes me chuckle is the people who use the radical "Christians" as an excuse to deny God's existence. Don't confuse "church" with "religion" with "God." The first two are basically a sham to make people feel better, while the third is laughing his ass off at the first two (yes, He has quite a sense of humor. ). The popular view of God is that He's this ultra-protective mother-type who'll do anything from "letting" his kids get hurt. This parallels the rediculous trend you see in America now with over-protective parents wanting to do (and buy) anything for their kids. Even parts of the Bible have been sterilized to meet these preconceptions. Take Genesis 32 verse 25. It talks about a man named Jacob who meets a stranger in a dark ally and wrestles him for hours. The man ends up being God (this story is obviously a spiritual interpretation of some other event).

"When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacon's hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the man."

The original Hebrew that this was written in mentions nothing of a hip and socket. In fact a direct translation from Hebrew reveals that God actually kicked Jacob right square in the nuts!

What do you think those radical "Christians" would say if you told them God kicked Jacob in the nuts?

And that's my point. "Christians" may be missing the point entirely, but Jacob still got nailed in the twig and berries. Just because they're wrong about who He is, doesn't mean He isn't.

[/sacriligious sermon]

 

[skyslug]

Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing
in a garage makes you a car.

That being said Jim will need all our good Juju's/Karma/prayers sent his way...

 

[Ultra Grump]

People just don't want to be responsible whether good or bad.

So true, and the whole point of the discussion about "why did God do this to me?" People are always looking for someone else to blame for the things they do, refusing to take personal responsibility for screwing up.

Hey dingushead, who started it? Your fellow athiest. Now don't make this tragedy any worse.

Actually, TheRaven started it here in post #3:

Did anyone else get a different read on what he was asking about "Why did God do this to me".....his mother seemed to indicate that she thought he was asking why God caused the accident, but when i read it, it seemed like he was asking why God spared only him in this horrible accident.

You bible-thumpers can feel sorry for me all you want, just keep it to yourselves. I've also found the most God-fearing to be the biggest hypocrites.

 

[CFIse]

Are you not reading? Fatigue can be caused and related to more things than just time and rest periods. Even humidity levels can cause fatigue!

You have no reason to believe that any of those factors are related to this accident. Even if both pilots had only got 5 hours sleep that night they should still not have been fatigued 3 hours after they woke up.

I say again - this is not a fatigue accident, and trying to make it one just undermines all the issues that really exist around pilot fatigue.

 

[bvt1151]

You have no reason to believe that any of those factors are related to this accident. Even if both pilots had only got 5 hours sleep that night they should still not have been fatigued 3 hours after they woke up.

I say again - this is not a fatigue accident, and trying to make it one just undermines all the issues that really exist around pilot fatigue.

Circadian rythms have EVERYTHING to do with fatigue. Search long enough and you'll find a study of German Air Force pilots. One group was studied the same time each day, and the other was studied at various times, but with legal rest between each time. The obvious reason was to test the affect of circadian rythms.

The performance of the crews that went into the sim the same time each day had a slight increase in performance. The other crew had a drastically different issue. While performance didn't decrease uniformly, it was very irratic, and never exceeded the other (control) group. Their performance trended worse as the study went on. The interesting thing was that at times, their performance wasn't that much better than when they did the same study with drunk crews.

Circadian rythms have been proven to have a drastic affect on pilots.

 

[Motown]

Take Genesis 32 verse 25. It talks about a man named Jacob who meets a stranger in a dark ally and wrestles him for hours. The man ends up being God (this story is obviously a spiritual interpretation of some other event).

"When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacon's hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the man."

The original Hebrew that this was written in mentions nothing of a hip and socket. In fact a direct translation from Hebrew reveals that God actually kicked Jacob right square in the nuts!

Well, I certainly don't want to get into a religious discussion... I can't stand people who proselytize-- I don't bring up religion with others unless they ask, and don't appreciate when others try to convince me of their religious beliefs.

Having said that, you mentioned the text as written in the original Hebrew. As Jews read Torah in it's original language and form (handwritten scrolls in Hebrew), I thought you might appreciate knowing what is actually written.

The following link discusses the section you referenced: Genesis 32:15. (Genesis is called Bereishis in Hebrew. Observant Jews all over the world read the same Parshah (section) of the Torah (Bible) on the same day, and each week's Parshah is named... The second section of the Parsha (weekly section to be read) "Vayishlach" on December 4th this year will be Bereishis (Genesis) 32:11 to 32:30. The English translated text is on the left, and commentary is on the right.)

http://www.chabad.org/Parshah/Rashi/default.asp?tDate=12/4/2006&src=ds

More in-depth:

http://www.chabad.org/parshah/in-depth/default.asp?AID=35877

A variety of other links (including a link to the original Hebrew):

http://www.chabad.org/parshah/default.asp?AID=15554

 

[bvt1151]

Having said that, you mentioned the text as written in the original Hebrew. As Jews read Torah in it's original language and form (handwritten scrolls in Hebrew), I thought you might appreciate knowing what is actually written.

The translation came to me directly from a Doctoral Seminary Professor of Hebrew who was translating directly from the original scripts.

In your translation (which seems to stick to the literal meaning of "thigh"), the translator even concedes in the commentary that: "When the angel of Esau injured Jacob's hip-joint, he injured his righteous descendants."

Sounds like a shot to the family jewels to me.

 

[MCDU]

Some of you guys think like the taliban. I guess I am an infidel because this talk about God is really getting on my nerves.
Tell me this. Who created God? What was before God?
This crap with Allah (God) is getting old and is dragging the United States back in to the middle ages. The more advanced a nation, the less need for Allah. Comair guys screwed up. Sh$t happens. I feel for all those affected. Good luck to all the guys at Comair and a speedy recovery for the FO.

Peace

Marty

 

[Matty4me]

GOD Correction

Some of you guys think like the taliban. I guess I am an infidel because this talk about God is really getting on my nerves.
Tell me this. Who created God? What was before God?
This crap with Allah (God) is getting old and is dragging the United States back in to the middle ages. The more advanced a nation, the less need for Allah. Comair guys screwed up. Sh$t happens. I feel for all those affected. Good luck to all the guys at Comair and a speedy recovery for the FO.

Peace

Marty

You are totally getting things crossed about GOD. allah is a god and not the GOD. allah (name not worthy of capitalizing) was a god (of the moon) of many gods approx. 400-600 years ago that was made known by, then , a young man named mohammed.

 

[The_Russian]

Jesus Christ!

 

[Beanie]

To the posting above:
You sir/ma'am are an idiot. The one individual that needs prayer is you. The F/O is getting the prayer that he needs from others. What is ashame is that you believe that evolution is beginning, man is supreme, we did this...
The problem is that you have not been touched by the Holy Spirit. Hell needs people like you.

It makes me physically ill that someone would wish hell on another person under the pretense of Christianity. I am sure that these statements were not made by the direction of the Holy Spirit, but rather by the direction of someone who does nothing but try to warp the true nature of God. I sincerely apologize to the person that these comments were directed to. It is my prayer that comments like this do not push you farther away. This is not the how God feels about you.

 

[buscap]

What a bunch of idiots.

How about we all just hope/pray for the poor guy.

Then let's all thank whomever we please, we're not in his shoes.

 

[Aerosurfer]

Amen to that brother. I believe that God will be glorified in his life in the future. Word is, he had been reading the Bible regularly in the recent past. God regularly uses tragedy to bring Glory to himself. Remember the cruxifixion of Jesus Christ? (tragedy) How about his resurrection? (Glory!)

Anyway, what or who created the Universe? That entity was and is Almighty God. One of Newton's laws supposes to prove it, 'The cause of every reaction is an equal and opposite reaction'. You say "who created God?" Well, who created who created God, and on to infinity. That reasoning has to stop somewhere, and logically, it stops at God. So, God created the universe, and our galaxy, solar system, planet, and us humans by default, at the very least.

The question really to be asked is "Is God a personal or impersonal God?" And the answer is found in the person of Jesus Christ.

All this Is according to Uncyclopedia.org

Ummmm hello............ Both Pirate Ninja Jesus and Chuck Norris were responsible for the creation of the Milky Way

Poof, There It Is Theory is one of the most popular theories used to explain the creation of the universe. The theory is quite complex but it can be simplified to something like this: In the beginning, there was no universe, and then; POOF!
There it was.


The Universe

Science fiction writers argue contentiously about the origin and structure of the Universe. Many authors posit other "dimensions" which exist parallel to work-a-day reality, claiming that these unseen forces somehow kickstarted the Universe. However, quantum physicists studying subatomic particles (entities smaller than regular particles) conclude that the Universe must have been created. As Dr. Waingirth of New Sudsbury said, "With all our accelerators and colliders, we cannot make a single quark[1] unless we call upon God Himself."
This finding comes nearly 2,500 years after the Greek philosopher Idiocrates figured out that something must have gotten the ball rolling. Indeed, the Greek Word for this universal "prime mover" is primum mobile, or Premium Mobil Gasoline.
Remarkably prescient, those Greeks.
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Poof, There It Is!


Premise

Everything exists. Everything is. How did it get to be so? Poof: There It Is.
This explanation might seem very simple to some people. Well, it is simple! But others, troublemakers and doubting Thomases, ask "What causes a Poof?" and "What are a Poof's inner workings?"
However, there is nothing more to the Poof than the Poof itself. As the poet put it, "A poof is a poof is a poof." In a word, a Poof is. In two words, it is self-sufficient.
And yet...a Poof is not a spontaneous event. Far from it. We must understand a Poof as a meticulously-planned random event. If you understand that concept, then you have come one step closer to knowing the Poof. If not, try your luck here.
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Why is the Theory Called Poof, There It Is? Wouldn't Big Bang Sound Better?

No, it wouldn't. And besides, "Big Bang Theory" was already taken. The fallacious BB theory states that everyone wants to go out with a bang (or in layman's terms, die whilst getting laid.) Poof, There It Is Theory allows far more complexity than ordinary Big Bang Theory since it is the framework that holds the universe together, while the Big Bang just concerns sex. Poof, There It Is constitutes the cement — the rock-solid concrete — of the cosmos. Some people call Poof, There It Is "the new causation."
However, there is no way to apply the scientific method to Poof, There It Is. Academics dispute the validity of the premise, bickering, shouting, spilling tea down their shirtfronts. This works out well for Poof, There It Is: its universal framework explains the pedagogical academics and their sniveling as well.
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Consequences of Poof, There It Is

We know nothing of consequences in Poof, There It Is Theory. As we wrote previously, everything is and has been since the Poof. Quite simple, really. The theory negates cause and effect because everything is explained by Poof, There It Is.
Magictology is the only earthly religion that recognizes the validity of Poof, There It Is, and professional magictologists are sometimes called "poofters" for this very reason. In the realm of Poof There It Is, imagination rules, because everything bursts into existence through the mental faculties of the original Poofter.

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Several books have been released on the topic of Poof, There It Is, most notably this fictionalization of the matter by L. Ron Hubbard.


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How Did The First Poofter Poof?

We know nothing about the first Poof, except that it must have happened. If it hadn't happened, we would have never been Poofed, wouldn't be here, and therefore couldn't ask the question "How Did The First Poofer Poof?" Our existence proves that there must have been a first Poof. Most Poofters accept this "primum mobile" aspect of the theory, since it's true. Also, the competing "Blammo the Clown Theory" is just plain stupid, since balloon animals are so 1987
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Poofs and Dates

We have compiled a short list of things poofed into the Universe. A mighty Poof created the Universe itself, of course, so subsequent Poofs are second derivatives which exist only because of the First Poof.

• June 16, 2816 BC 6:15 PM Chinese Poofter Mai Tai poofs gunpowder into existence to make fireworks.
• August 4, 1101 4:28 AM Turkish Poofter Saladin poofs a trade route between Eastern Asia and Constantinople into existence.
• October 27, 1897 7:44 AM Jesus poofs His Second Coming into existence. However, unlike the previous Poofs, few people notice, and Jesus goes home to Kathmandu bitterly dissapointed.

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Hybrid Theory

Most recently in 2006, quantum poofologists have proposed a hybrid model known as the "Big Poof There It Is Theory", which is just like the regular Poof There It Is Theory, but adds the bigness associated with the classical Big Bang. It goes like this:
In the beginning, there was no universe, and then;

POOF!

There it was.

 

[Aerosurfer]

And as for God......


God (born Herschel Godstein) is possibly the best known fictional entity on Earth after The Beatles. He was elected to be our god for the 2006th year running this year, barely beating the Egyptian sun god Ra, Omnipotent Odin, and the Almighty Zeus (still recovering from alcoholism). He is also dog spelled backwards. As of the 3rd Qtr of 2005, the Republican Party claimed the largest share of ownership of God. It should be noted that God has been under the investigation of the SEC several times, because of the attempted claiming of two dependents, a supposed "Holy Spirit" and a "Son", who have never been seen by authorities. However, God has made the argument that as they exist on the same plane as himself, he can list them as dependents if he "damn well pleases".