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I think before any of you jump down my throat, you should do a little research as to their business practices. I passed every class like everyone else. I graduated the program. I did my part. They didn't fulfill their part.

What you all don't know is the promises (read: lies) that they made before you walked into the door. They were pretty damn good at selling.

And no, I don't suck as a pilot. I was right up there with the rest of the other graduates. And the REASON I had high time was because I brought over 100 hours into the program. I already had my Private...but they wanted me to repeat it so that I can do it "their way". While I was there, I decided to fly more outside of the program, to distinguish myself above and beyond the photocopy resumes that every other cadet had. Believe me, I knew that their 225 hours of loggable total time wasn't going to impress any airline...I wanted more on my logbook.

Mickey,

They promised that the program was going to be completed in 10-12 months. I budgeted and based on my decision on 12 months. It took over 18 months.

They promised 7-9 "guaranteed interviews" and that "if you could graduate from CAPT, you are a sure hire"...those were THEIR words to us. It wasn't until we got there that we all realized that they got our money, had a $20,000 withdrawal fee, and they had NO airline affiliations. They managed to convince ASA and Pinnacle...and shorted a good handful of graduates into some cargo start-up (Focus Air) out of Ft. Lauderdale promising them FO positions on 747-200's after 2 years of service. Everyone that went there lost a lot of time to discover that was a lie.

They promised us G1000 trainers and G1000 Twin Stars for multi-engine training. We ended up getting steam gauges (which isn't the end of the world but it also wasn't what was promised), and the DA-42 was another exaggeration.

We all saw the writing on the wall, but what can you do when they got your money, and they were stringing you along with lies and empty promises? In that position, you shut up, don't make enemies, don't stir up the pot, and do as they say. After all, they got your balls in their hands. You'd be an idiot to stir up problems when they had your future in their hands.

They also promised us airline interview preparation class which was 3-days long. We got a 30 minute version with a pat on the ass that says, "be yourself". Yeah, I already knew that part...tell me something I don't know. Oh wait, they promised that they would, but didn't.

They didn't send out my resume to any airline until 5 months after graduation. Why? Because the program director at the time is incompetent. I have e-mails to prove this. Not that it matters since my career in aviation was effectively destroyed the minute they went over 12 months.

Anyway, I'm not going to convince any of you anything. You already made up your minds about me. It's okay, I'm happy that this program is going down. And all you need to know is that they are now playing the same song and dance with 160 souls who don't deserve the CAPT treatment any more than I or anyone else.

Mickey, today, I am working to pay my loan off. This is how I am taking ownership for the risk and chance and whatever else you guys want to call it with the CAPT Program. Some suggested I run out of the country and skip the loan. But no, I'm working to pay it off. Why? Because unlike CAPT, I have a sense of honor and integrity.

Max Q, you are absolutely correct. And I'm making a life mission to tell as many people as I can that CAPT is not the place to do your flight training.

Quite honestly, you all need to understand one thing. I have no intentions to pursue a career in aviation. Not that I don't want to, but I can't financially, and I'm not getting any younger.

My goal in life now with aviation is to tell people to avoid CAPT. That's it. End of story. Everything else you can speculate and judge without all the facts all you want. I really don't care. All I care is that people don't suffer any more at the hands of CAPT. It's just that simple with me now.
 
I ask again:

So they didn't give you flight time?
You didn't pay for and receive a DC-9 type?
 
I ask again:

So they didn't give you flight time?
You didn't pay for and receive a DC-9 type?

A whore can give you sex but I wouldn't exactly call it a relationship either.

But to answer your question, yes, they gave me 225 hours of loggable time in my logbook. Yes, I got a DC-9 type rating.

I could care less about the DC-9 type rating. It's a perpetual embarrassment to me when people see it on my certificate. The question you have to ask is, would you pay $101,000 for 225 hours of flight time and a DC-9 type rating? I was paying for their ability to show me the door to airlines with the low time I have. I could have gotten flight training anywhere, and plenty of people have gotten jobs at airlines without a type rating in a DC-9.
 
Thats nuts 101g's. Sorry bro you coulda got a college degree and all your ratings for that price and even thats on the highside.
 
A whore can give you sex but I wouldn't exactly call it a relationship either.

The irony is staggering.

But to answer your question, yes, they gave me 225 hours of loggable time in my logbook. Yes, I got a DC-9 type rating.
So you're peeved that you didn't get a job by buying one? Because you just admitted you got what you paid for.

I could care less about the DC-9 type rating.
Bollocks. You sure as hell did when you signed up, didn't you?

The question you have to ask is, would you pay $101,000 for 225 hours of flight time and a DC-9 type rating?
When I ask myself the question, I hear crickets. In fact, I hear echoing crickets. No, I don't have to ask myself anything. Why didn't you?


I could have gotten flight training anywhere, and plenty of people have gotten jobs at airlines without a type rating in a DC-9.
That's true. That was true before you paid for your training, was true while you paid for your training, and is true now.

I get thoroughly pissed when I read your rants about this program. You got fleeced, to be sure- BUT YOU GOT FLEECED. Not I, not the airlines, not Riddle, not CAPT. So you didn't get a job by paying out the wazzoo for a shortcut- boohoo.

What you also failed to do was get a frickin' job using what you spent a ton of money for! You could have, you did not.


STFU. Box o' Kleenex to the cockpit, please...
 
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The more 'pilot factories' close up shop, the better.

Don't forget Riddle, UND and a host of other U's that propagate students into the "dream" life of an airline pilot. They are not bad places, just sources where they promote the "dream". When the airlines only hire out of the military, then we will be back in the glory days. But that will likely never happen again.:crying:
 
All this angry chatter about CAPT.

Why don't you go out and do something with your existing ratings? You can easily get the CFI for $3K somewhere.

You *could* be furthering your aspirations, you know.
 
Ninja, don't listen to Sig. I get what you are trying to say. CAPT was a higher priced program than the local FBO because it came with promises for interviews, G1000, etc. They failed to come through with those promises. Sounds like false advertising to me.
 
Am I the only one that doesn't need to be smacked in the face with a hammer for me to realize that it's going to hurt?

-Brett
 
Ninja, don't listen to Sig. I get what you are trying to say. CAPT was a higher priced program than the local FBO because it came with promises for interviews, G1000, etc. They failed to come through with those promises. Sounds like false advertising to me.

CAPT has benefited many pilots who went on to career positions. It's quite telling when someone doesn't finish the program, doesn't bother to procure any employment even with a COMM/MEL, constantly complains about the programs failings and not their own, etc.

All Ninja posts on several boards is how awful CAPT is. He's got a vendetta against them, plain and simple. He wanted to jump to the head of the line by spending over 100K on a program.

There's nothing preventing him from continuing a career in aviation. For those who want it, it can be had. He just didn't want to and now to save face amongst his peers, he comes up with this ruse as to how it's all CAPTs fault that he's not a DC-9 FO somewhere.


A DC-9 rating, 225 hours and a MEL/COMM for $100K+?!?!? :laugh: :laugh:
 
Just another example of the instant-gratification entitlement generation.
 
Whatever Amish... I had no money to go further in case you haven't paid attention to all my past posts. Today, I could care less about pursuing a career in aviation. What is important is that CAPT has ruined lives. Period, end of story. Perhaps you should read all the comments on that article out of Flagler and see that their own employees are outraged! CAPT hasn't paid their instructors for services rendered! But according to your view, I guess we're all just ranting and raving about nothing huh?

Get a clue pal. I didn't sign up to be screwed by CAPT and neither did these current students and instructors. What amazes me is that some of you just can't see past my personal experience and take a look at what is happening TODAY with the program.

I'm done with you Amish. You'll always be a dick.
 
Ninja, don't listen to Sig. I get what you are trying to say. CAPT was a higher priced program than the local FBO because it came with promises for interviews, G1000, etc. They failed to come through with those promises. Sounds like false advertising to me.

Thank you for seeing what I am trying to convey. :)
 
Way back when, people were dispensing very helpful advice and offers to you help you out. All you did was complain and find reasons why nothing further would work. The problem is YOU not CAPT, per se. Believe what you want but your actions and words speak otherwise.

Even I had offered you many plausible and viable options in light of your plight. This was a long while ago. Now, all you do is come on and degrade this program because it didn't work for you.

BTW, if I were in your position, I'd have skipped on that ridiculous bill, got my CFI's and instructed. Things *could* have worked out. You just didn't want them to.

...and I'm not a dick, unless you deserve it. Your so-called travesties with CAPT are getting old.
 

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