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Yes I remember the testimonial dispelling the myth that B19 is Tyler ;) ... It's just when you've spent so much time in the same room around the table with the man (term used loosely) you pick up on things ...

Once the contract is signed ... I bet he goes away until the ammendable date and negotiations begin again.
 
"I have repeatedly watched the so called “educated” pilots on the board whine and complain about management without stepping up to the plate and trying to fix it."

When is the last time you took advice or an idea from a subordinate for the betterment of the company??

What I’ve clearly stated over and over is if you don’t like something, do something about it. Don’t go and unionize to be a bully, the union won’t fix “bad management”, what it will do is make a bad situation worse.

So when a manager, such as yourself, will not listen to anybody elses idea what should the employee do? Should they run away or do they organize to try to get a schmuck like you listen. I too have been in this industry a long time and have tried to pass on ideas to managers, such as yourself, to no avail. Not even so much as an acknowledgement. Sorry your philosophy is full of holes. If you will not listen you leave employees no other choice. People like you B are a dime a dozen and the products you produce are unions. Next time one of your subordinates throws out a plan, cost savings, etc.. acknowledge it, use it, maybe even give some credit. Please don't blow it off with the canned answer used by many managers, "you don't have the big picture".

I have tried to listen to, your ideas, your arguments, for a long time. This is a public board, you do not have to agree with anyone, I am not a rah rah union guy. There have been many times when a union has over stepped its boundaries. But your theories are full of crap, your just as bad as those that think the only way is a union!!

For that, you are now blocked! The sad thing is, is that you are the only one (have no doubt youll post something childish, because thats who you are, truly sad). I believe that everyone should have their say, but you are out of control. Take care, respond, don't respond, don't really care.
 
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If management would pay me what the job pays, and treats me fairly, there would be no need for a union.

You have to have evil in order to have goodness.
 
Ooooh. Philosophisicationism...

If management would pay me what the job pays, and treats me fairly, there would be no need for a union.

You have to have evil in order to have goodness.


So, are you reasoning that evil brought goodness or that goodness brought evil and therefore, commensurate goodness?

Who's on 1st?
 
the company needed to screw things up first in order to have a union come in.


Yeah, but who's on 1st now? Who will be.

If you have answers to those questions, you'd be labeled as a liability by some.

I'd say, "Welcome to the club of those who pay attention".
 
It's not a joke.

It's a statement of awareness, or lack thereof.

No worries bud.

No, there are many companies that have a union because a group feels that for the job they do they should have an "industry leading contract" that pays more than anybody else in the industry and places the entire company at risk.


If what you were saying were true, industry leading contracts would never be negotiated.

Even when the company is profitable, unions suck all the extra cash out of it and remove the ability to provide long term stability. It's really sad. There will be a major correction in union contracts later this year...
 
Even when the company is profitable, unions suck all the extra cash out of it and remove the ability to provide long term stability. It's really sad. There will be a major correction in union contracts later this year...

You know B19 you are like some sort of lame fortune teller. You make all these perdictions and when they don't come true you change your story.

If you were really as smart as you think you are, you would be running a fortune 500 company or doing something better with your time then posting your dribble on FI.
 
No, there are many companies that have a union because a group feels that for the job they do they should have an "industry leading contract" that pays more than anybody else in the industry and places the entire company at risk.


If what you were saying were true, industry leading contracts would never be negotiated.

Even when the company is profitable, unions suck all the extra cash out of it and remove the ability to provide long term stability. It's really sad. There will be a major correction in union contracts later this year...

Your drivel is 2004 19.

I'm close to ignoring you if you continue to repeatedly ignore in your posts what we have accomplished here as a company (management and pilots) together.

You cannot talk about the union here at NetJets without mentioning management in the same light. Positive:Positive. Negative:Negative.

We're doing fine here.... Nut Sack.
 
You are Correct Bob19!!!!!

No, there are many companies that have a union because a group feels that for the job they do they should have an "industry leading contract" that pays more than anybody else in the industry and places the entire company at risk.


If what you were saying were true, industry leading contracts would never be negotiated.

Even when the company is profitable, unions suck all the extra cash out of it and remove the ability to provide long term stability. It's really sad. There will be a major correction in union contracts later this year...

There will be a MAJOR correction over the next year. It will be Congress passing the "Free Choice Act" which will allow employee groups to vote in a Union onto the property by simply sending in Union Cards, rather than have to hold a secret ballot election after 35% have sent in Cards.

This will indeed affect the Balance of Power between the Haves (Management) and the Have Nots (Pilots).

Get ready Bob19. Its coming. And I can't wait til it passes so I can rub it in your Scab face BOB!


Freedom is Not Free!
 

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