Cactus73 said:
Where did I ever say I expected to fly the A330/A350? Currently AWA doesn't have the A330. I have no/zero career expectation of every flying this airplane. The A350 will be a new type to both airlines, so yes I guess I can have a small expectation if I'm around long enough. .
The A350 is simply an outgrowth of the A330. Same type rating, just spruced up to compete with the B787. Enjoy it! It should be a nice ride. Training on it will most likely be in CLT, as that's where the sim is. (the sim is convertible, even to the A340, as our options included A340's as well.....little known fact.) Believe it or not, great Mexican food very close to the hotel.
Cactus73 said:
By most accounts, including the road show given to you guys before the merger was announced, it was find a partner or liquidate. I believe ALPA and the Unions did their own economic analysis and knew too that the writing was on the wall.
News Flash: This holds true for almost all airlines today save for the true "discounters." Your airline is no different, buddy. It's the much talked about "Industry Consolidation," and America West would have been freekin' toast had consolidation left it out in the cold. You are so arrogant (naive, really) to think differently.
Cactus73 said:
I don't have any crazy career expectations. In fact, I'll be happy to keep my job. But I don't think that I should go to the street for some guy that has given six years flying a CRJ for a wholly owned. We have guys here that put in 10 years at US Air wholly owned regionals. Should they get a jump in seniority to honor their time?
First off, I was mainline, and most of my time at US Airways was in the Airbus. The CRJ thing is through Jets-4-Jobs, a little thing set up by those AAA Union guys that you and your buddies have been trashing.
Next, and most importantly, I don't think you or anyone else should "go to the street." I've never said that, and never will. Perhaps you've not worked for a carrier with huge retirements in the forecast, so I'll fill you in: it
does affect career expectations, and it
is a real force that moves people up the list in a big hurry. That's one thing that "my" group is bringing to the table, and is the reason why no one should have to see the street.
Cactus73 said:
The line has to be drawn in the sand at some point. I don't want to fly your precious A330 and I don't want you bumping me out of PHX.
Oh, OK.....fine. Sheeze, what are we arguing about then? I thought you said I was never going to be recalled, that my expectations were......how did you say........ZERO. Now you say my career is still on track, minus about eight years of messing around? OK, good......we agree then. Hell, I've lived in PHX.....you can have it!
Cactus73 said:
It's funny, the only sounds of anger are coming from the USAir furloughed guys.
Really? I think Whiskey Driver sounds pretty angry. PHXFLYR is getting a little bent out of shape. WD ain't even coherent.....he's talkin' major trash and swinging at the fences. Ever since this thing was announced the first thing out of anyone's mouth is "well those go*&^%med US Air fourloughees anin't getting anything! Period!" That's what every AWA guy on here has spewed, more or less (Exception: TWA Dude, because he's got some seasoning and some maturity.)
Cactus73 said:
Most of the current flying guys on here seem great and they seem all for letting ALPA merger policy run its course. They also seem like stand-up guys that will be great to fly with once the dust settles.
Yeah, well, you'll have to trust on this one, but the US Air guys are great to fly with too. Oh, I know, I know.....someone rode in a van once and so and so said......But really, US Air was a great place to work. It will be again.
Cactus73 said:
As I said before, I think it sucks you were furloughed. But you were furloughed for reasons that had nothing do to with AWA. I'm not willing to give up my job to bring you back - nothing personal.
And, as I've said before, I wouldn't think of asking you to. What none of you guys seem to want to admit is that there's a potential
windfall for you. You keep saying things like "you were never going to be recalled" and "your career expectations were zero" and it certainly seems like your trying to take something that never belonged to you. Listen close: US Air's demise has been the favorite USA Today story for as long as anyone can remember. They've been crying wolf since before Wolf worked here, and have been doing it ever since. But year after year, we keep paying the employees and hauling the pax. We haven't lost as much since 9/11 as Delta lost last year! And I say this not to flame or incite, but to tell you that US Air brings a lot more than debt and unwanted employees to the table. You and Whiskey D and PHXFLYR ought to give your CEO a little more credit than that.
