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While this is true, the system can also make you work five or six days in a row if there is nothing but low credit trips left to choose from by the time it is your turn. Lamentably, there is no language to requiring the Company to build efficient pairings. Given the Company's love for 30 hour overnights, junior guys that want TLV plus some should expect to work more than four in a row.

I never thought I would find something positive to say about integration, but at least you could only work 6 in a row at the beginning of the month.


Not true. Again, if there is nothing left but low credit trips when your turn comes around, even a thoroughly commanding knowledge of the system, software, and loopholes can't save you from 6 day trips built of low credit pairings.



I thought most of the members that posted on the ALPA board were pro-PBS. Only 196 folks voted against it, which isn't that many, honestly. I'm curious how many of those railing against it really voted against it.


This is amazingly true, and something that needs to be remembered. ASA, overall, is a good place to work. I like the crews, and I like the flying. I like the "whoever dat callin' Atlanta no change" culture that is unique to the ASA experience. For all its faults, ASA is still a great place to work, particularly compared to other regional carriers.

Look, the PBS genie is out of the bottle. It is likely never going away. The People have spoken, for better or worse. For all you pro-PBS types, take your victory without malice. Nay voters, accept the defeat gracefully. PBS is here. There is no point belaboring the issue, particularly as we head into the long winter of negotiation. This is an exceptionally good time to work towards a unified pilot group. PBS specifically, and the Union's handing of it, have proven to be surprisingly emotional issues. Both sides need to make amends and peace as the Company has us in disadvantageous position: divided.
Thank you, Speedtape while preaching the workings of pbs in a perfect scenario does not under stand how this will work the ASA way unless your senior.
 
Excellent synopsis. ASA pilots have arguably the best contract in the fee for departure segment yet carry one as though they have it worse than everyone else. The complainers that generally go overboard seem to have only ASA as their sole experience in the real world. Let them all go get some perspective elsewhere and come back and see how bad it really is. I got news you little crying candy a$$es, it ain't that bad.

Well said!
 
Excellent synopsis. ASA pilots have arguably the best contract in the fee for departure segment yet carry one as though they have it worse than everyone else. The complainers that generally go overboard seem to have only ASA as their sole experience in the real world. Let them all go get some perspective elsewhere and come back and see how bad it really is. I got news you little crying candy a$$es, it ain't that bad.

Ahhh couldn't have said it better myself. We do have so many clueless whiners here, it's embarrassing.
 
Thank you, Speedtape while preaching the workings of pbs in a perfect scenario does not under stand how this will work the ASA way unless your senior.

Obviously, you are Junior. If you learn to use it, you will get a better schedule than you are getting today. If you are Senior, and don't learn to use it, you will get a worse schedule than you get today.

If you let the software default to its settings and give it authority to award your pairings--you are hosed no matter what your seniority.

In a year, you will be a disciple of Prefbid. But then again, you like to complain, and no bidding system can fix that!
 
Speed I hope your right and in six to nine months if you are I will man up and say so. But if your wrong I expect a big fat I'm sorry from you ok? LOL. I don't like to complain but get fed up and forced into it.
 
Speed I hope your right and in six to nine months if you are I will man up and say so. But if your wrong I expect a big fat I'm sorry from you ok? LOL. I don't like to complain but get fed up and forced into it.

Ditto, speed, ditto....
 
You don't have Prefbid. If you did, you would get the days off you wanted. What is your system?

Yep, Speed-

You just save this post and get back to me around Sept. We will see how many of the "days off you wanted" you wound up with. I hope you are in the top 10% in seniority-you sure are not up there in smarts.
 

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