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Well it looks like the MEC is starting to figure out the crap storm they pushed on us will be a big pay cut for the top 50%. They are figuring out that the company can set the line value at 60hrs and with the +/- 15 that is a top of 75hrs for the month every month not just Sept and Jan. Add to that no open time with pbs and no language for trip pairings you will fly 4 crap trips for 70-75hrs. Everyone at min pay, brilliant! Now the company is fighting the Mec on intent so bad they may have to put the PBS back out for a new vote. Like I said before look at the red arrow BS, and now they can't even agree on what they agreed on for pbs to get it even started.
Speedtape may have to apologize sooner than I thought! :)
 
Told ya, now wait till Brad turns the skrew skeduling morons loose!
I would laugh if it wasn't so pathetic.
PBR
 
maxcackel said:
Well it looks like the MEC is starting to figure out the crap storm they pushed on us will be a big pay cut for the top 50%. They are figuring out that the company can set the line value at 60hrs and with the +/- 15 that is a top of 75hrs for the month every month not just Sept and Jan. Add to that no open time with pbs and no language for trip pairings you will fly 4 crap trips for 70-75hrs. Everyone at min pay, brilliant! Now the company is fighting the Mec on intent so bad they may have to put the PBS back out for a new vote. Like I said before look at the red arrow BS, and now they can't even agree on what they agreed on for pbs to get it even started.
Speedtape may have to apologize sooner than I thought! :)
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Haven't heard anything about this so can't validate if its true. However if it is true that is huge cost savings for the company. Basically eliminating the disadvantage ASA has of being a more senior pilot group. Save money, gain more flying, then bring back the furloughs. Nobody flies over 75 hrs until the furloughs come back. Thats how it should be. If somebody doesn't like it because of the pay, tell your reps to negotiate higher monthly guarantee.
 
So I already took a 40% paycut and now you want me to bring myself down to guarantee? I'm sorry but I just can't do that....
 
maxcackel said:
Well it looks like the MEC is starting to figure out the crap storm they pushed on us will be a big pay cut for the top 50%. They are figuring out that the company can set the line value at 60hrs and with the +/- 15 that is a top of 75hrs for the month every month not just Sept and Jan. Add to that no open time with pbs and no language for trip pairings you will fly 4 crap trips for 70-75hrs. Everyone at min pay, brilliant! Now the company is fighting the Mec on intent so bad they may have to put the PBS back out for a new vote. Like I said before look at the red arrow BS, and now they can't even agree on what they agreed on for pbs to get it even started.
Speedtape may have to apologize sooner than I thought! :)
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maxcackel,

Who is your source from the MEC?
 
asayankee said:
So I already took a 40% paycut and now you want me to bring myself down to guarantee? I'm sorry but I just can't do that....
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Welcome to my nightmare. Jump in while the water is warm!
 
Cpt Oveur said:
There is no bright side to pilots getting furloughed. How far are you from the bottom?
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I am all for the furloughs coming back. Someone was complaining about a 40% paycut and not want to reduce down to guarantee. I was just trying to point out that there are 136 fine guys and gals in a much worse position.
 
777forever said:
I am all for the furloughs coming back. Someone was complaining about a 40% paycut and not want to reduce down to guarantee. I was just trying to point out that there are 136 fine guys and gals in a much worse position.
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If you want to do your part to getting them back, then don't take calls at 3 am unless you're on call at 3 am. Don't help the company out by letting them abuse you on reserve. I'll loan you the money if you need it for a house payment, with interest of course. Hold scheduling's feet to the fire if they call you out of bucket. I'm sure you want to fly on reserve and not sit at home or in a crash pad, but if you're letting scheduling take advantage of you, just remember they're also taking advantage of the furloughed pilots.
 
Full of LUV said:
Why the paycut?? Was that a downgrade?
Honest question....
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Yes I "took" a downgrade... And that's fine. I'm not bitter and realize there is not much I can do about that. I want the furloughs back as much as the next person, but my loyalty resides with my wife and family first and foremost. It has to.

An no I would never pick up any of the "premium" flying...
 
Speedtape said:
AirTran is a lateral move.
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Semi-agree, but if can can get on there early on you can make a lot more money eventually. I would be making nearly double there at my longevity. Now, though, it would take me too long to recoup my pay over there.
 
PBS Sucks

Speedtape said:
In a year, you will be a disciple of Prefbid.
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It has been a year, and I am not a disciple of PrefBid, although in fairness we haven't had nearly as many bid cycles as we were to have by this time.



I don't like PrefBid because:
  • I have to bid below guarantee to hold consistent days of the week off. This is instruction from a PBS trainer. I have to bid low to hold the same days of the week off from week to week (working Monday through Friday), the idea being to plus up my schedule from open time after the final award.
  • The pairings I get are crappier, and I get a lot more of the 24 hour plus overnights in outstations. These gems used to be spread around a lot more, but now they are a bite of the crap sandwich that senior guys aren't afflicted with.
Basically, I work the same number of day for less pay, and the trips suck more. To make what I used to under line bidding, I have to work for free since I am already below guarantee.
Overall, PBS has cost me money and quality of life.
 

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