ASA PBS Passes

[Cpt Oveur]

I am all for the furloughs coming back. Someone was complaining about a 40% paycut and not want to reduce down to guarantee. I was just trying to point out that there are 136 fine guys and gals in a much worse position.

If you want to do your part to getting them back, then don't take calls at 3 am unless you're on call at 3 am. Don't help the company out by letting them abuse you on reserve. I'll loan you the money if you need it for a house payment, with interest of course. Hold scheduling's feet to the fire if they call you out of bucket. I'm sure you want to fly on reserve and not sit at home or in a crash pad, but if you're letting scheduling take advantage of you, just remember they're also taking advantage of the furloughed pilots.

 

[LazyLightnin']

There is no bright side to pilots getting furloughed. How far are you from the bottom?

He is the bottom.. "El Enchufe"..

translation...

"The Plug"

I'm glad you're in the position to be loaning out money in times like these. Must be nice.

 

[asayankee]

Why the paycut?? Was that a downgrade?
Honest question....

Yes I "took" a downgrade... And that's fine. I'm not bitter and realize there is not much I can do about that. I want the furloughs back as much as the next person, but my loyalty resides with my wife and family first and foremost. It has to.

An no I would never pick up any of the "premium" flying...

 

[LazyLightnin']

AirTran is hiring. You could help a furloughee out and go there.

 

[777forever]

AirTran is hiring. You could help a furloughee out and go there.

Im sure he would go there as long as he can outshine the other 3,000 regional captains competing for 150 spots. Here's to hoping that AirTran REALLY likes ASA pilots!

 

[LazyLightnin']

i sure he would go there as long as he can outshine the other 3,000 regional captains competing for 150 spots. Here's to hoping that airtran really likes asa pilots!

I'm sure he's got what it takes.

And it's 159

 

[777forever]

I'm sure he's got what it takes.

And it's 159

Sweet, that's 9 more chances to hire ASA captains!

 

[Speedtape]

AirTran is a lateral move.

 

[79%N1]

AirTran is a lateral move.

Semi-agree, but if can can get on there early on you can make a lot more money eventually. I would be making nearly double there at my longevity. Now, though, it would take me too long to recoup my pay over there.

 

[Poppa Hodax]

PBS Sucks

In a year, you will be a disciple of Prefbid.

It has been a year, and I am not a disciple of PrefBid, although in fairness we haven't had nearly as many bid cycles as we were to have by this time.



I don't like PrefBid because:

• I have to bid below guarantee to hold consistent days of the week off. This is instruction from a PBS trainer. I have to bid low to hold the same days of the week off from week to week (working Monday through Friday), the idea being to plus up my schedule from open time after the final award.
• The pairings I get are crappier, and I get a lot more of the 24 hour plus overnights in outstations. These gems used to be spread around a lot more, but now they are a bite of the crap sandwich that senior guys aren't afflicted with.

Basically, I work the same number of day for less pay, and the trips suck more. To make what I used to under line bidding, I have to work for free since I am already below guarantee.
Overall, PBS has cost me money and quality of life.

 

[LazyLightnin']

AirTran is a lateral move.

Doh!!

 

[badog]

ding ding ding

It has been a year, and I am not a disciple of PrefBid, although in fairness we haven't had nearly as many bid cycles as we were to have by this time.



I don't like PrefBid because:

• I have to bid below guarantee to hold consistent days of the week off. This is instruction from a PBS trainer. I have to bid low to hold the same days of the week off from week to week (working Monday through Friday), the idea being to plus up my schedule from open time after the final award.
• The pairings I get are crappier, and I get a lot more of the 24 hour plus overnights in outstations. These gems used to be spread around a lot more, but now they are a bite of the crap sandwich that senior guys aren't afflicted with.

Basically, I work the same number of day for less pay, and the trips suck more. To make what I used to under line bidding, I have to work for free since I am already below guarantee.
Overall, PBS has cost me money and quality of life.

This guy hits it on the nose.
No pbs at the SUPER DUPER regional jcba
Not at express and not at asa

 

[ohplease!]

AirTran is a lateral move.

LOL! ummmm, not so much.....

 

[COOPERVANE]

Well it looks like the MEC is starting to figure out the crap storm they pushed on us will be a big pay cut for the top 50%. They are figuring out that the company can set the line value at 60hrs and with the +/- 15 that is a top of 75hrs for the month every month not just Sept and Jan. Add to that no open time with pbs and no language for trip pairings you will fly 4 crap trips for 70-75hrs. Everyone at min pay, brilliant! Now the company is fighting the Mec on intent so bad they may have to put the PBS back out for a new vote. Like I said before look at the red arrow BS, and now they can't even agree on what they agreed on for pbs to get it even started.
Speedtape may have to apologize sooner than I thought!

Nobody listened to you..

 

[centralpilot]

[*]The pairings I get are crappier, and I get a lot more of the 24 hour plus overnights in outstations. These gems used to be spread around a lot more, but now they are a bite of the crap sandwich that senior guys aren't afflicted with.
[/LIST]

What is your seniority in your seat/base?

FWIW, if I have to do 4-days I love 24+ hour overnights, especially in ORD, CVG, MEM, etc. I'll bid those ahead of other 4-days even if the credit is less.