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PA31Ho said:
Folks... what's up with the discriminating against total time? If somebody gets hired with 300 hours, then obviously the HR/Chief Pilot/whatever, found that individual capable of doing the job. I only have 700 hours and I got a phone call from 2 airlines within a week of each other, if they want to hire a 300 hour pilot over me, go for it... but that doesn't necessarily mean he's more qualified than me, and in the same token, that doesn't mean I'm more qualified than him.... lighten up... it's just a bunch of jealousy I think.

With all due respect, you'll feel differently in another 1000 or so hours. Guaranteed.

HMM
 
Yup, total time is always a direct indication of awesomeness. I believe it's a mathematical equation. I'll have to look it up.

By the way, you do know there are 5000+ hr captains that aren't worth a @#$% and rely solely on the FO to get by. Yet they don't know it. That's the scary part. At least the 300hr newbies will be open to criticism and learning something new. Flying a jet isn't rocket science.
 
Look to those who dog the lower time guys,

Its all in the attitude of the individual. High time or low time, if you are and a$$hole your an a$$hole. If you work hard and you bring a pretty good instrument background then you should do fine. When you say that a new guy is a burden on every captain then you are just full of yourself. Not everyone is born with the professionalism of you. New guys learn buy having good training and good captains. Just remember you were the new guy a one point so dont forget that. I have seen that the lower time guys are more open to suggestons than a high time guy who thinks he knows everything like yourself. We are all in the same boat here, lets help one another out. Good luck to everyone. It definitly beats working behind a desk.
 
I beleive these new posted minimums for ASA will only be applicable to the PFT wonders coming from those Florida Direct Hire programs...........I'm gonna shoot'em a fresh resume just for sh&t's and giggles, but I doubt their gonna be grabin folks up that are right there at 600tt and 100, unless you know folks who can walk your resume straight in...................




"Why Ike,.....We Cross???
-Val Kilmer, Tombstone
 
I thought I knew everything at 500 hours.

I thought I knew everything at 1000 hours and felt like I didn't really know anything at 500 hours after all.

I thought I knew everything at 1500 hours and felt like I didn't really know anything at 1000 hours after all.

I wonder what will happen in a couple months when I hit 2000. Any guesses?
 
I will have to honestly say that when I had 350 to 600 hours I was applying to every airline I could think of. Of course, I never received a call from any of them. After flying as A contract pilot in a BE58 and a PA31, I thought back and realized how much I truly learned while flying another 600 hours or so. I took my first 121 job with 1350TT and 450 Multi. There again, everything I learned throughout my extra 600 hours I apply in class for the JS32.
Looking back, I personally feel I was not ready to fly anything in a 121 setting and I'm glad that I had time to fly Charter in a BE58 and PA31; But I feel that if a person comes into an interview with 400, 600, or 1000 hours and they do well in the eyes of that company, they deserve a shot at the class. I hope that ASA won't just hire non-qualified people and that they would screen those that were interviewed very closely. I worked for ASA for about 4 years as a Station Agent during college and was fortunate enough to meet and get to know JS , RL, LB (I miss her)and even ole Skip. I would hope they pick the cream of the crop no matter what their TT is.
Just my Take.
Good Luck to the Candler boys and grls in their contract and Good Luck to those interviewing!
 
FCNelson said:
Stop acting like $25k is a lot of money (as a yearly salary). If you get hired at ASA, let me tacitly assure you, you are going to be POOR POOR POOR on first year pay, irregardless of whether its $19k/yr or $25k/yr. Understood?

This man is correct. I am nearing the end of my stay in first-year hell, and let me tell you that it has been a rotten experience for one reason only: pay. Everything else about the company has been OK by me, but the pay has been brutal. I've been working a second job on my off days for the last 2 months, and that has helped, but it's still offends me that I find that necessary. Make no mistake, a year is a long time when you're being hazed and forced to subsist on minimal cashflow, not to mention the fact that it'll probably take another 6 months to dig myself out of this morass. At least I haven't increased my debt, though. Good luck to all of my fellow purgatorians. Josh M.
 
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B190Captain said:
Granted, there are those that are sharp and adapt quickly but there is always the ones that aren't worth a sh!t.

the same could be said about 1,000 hour pilots, or 5,000hour pilots etc....
 
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jetflier said:
Where are the bases for ASA located? What bases are the most senior?

ATL: new hires only choice currently

SLC: Unless there's huge growth there, forget about it as a newhire. Super senior, a number of Captains displaced themselves to FO just to hold SLC. Junior reserve FO is currently 2 or 3 years I think.
 
I agree with those who say that another 500 (or 1000... or 2000...) hours dual given is probably not going to prepare you for Part 121.

But you know, there was a time when even those minimum times weren't enough to get hired by a commuter.

MOST of us went from CFI to either single pilot night freight, or charter, before interviewing with a commuter.

It was during that time -- flying single pilot, IMC, at night -- that I really learned. Decision making. Confidence. Real-world IFR experience. And the ability to say "No" when asked to do something unreasonable or unsafe.

So add me to the group that thinks that 600TT just isn't enough. Sorry guys.
 
A friend of mine at ASA was telling me how a guy with 320hrs (went through the Flight Safety Program) was pissed because he got assigned the ATR, mind you he's 23 yrs old!
 
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I beleive these new posted minimums for ASA will only be applicable to the PFT wonders coming from those Florida Direct Hire programs...........

Nope. 600/100 applies to anyone. They also want 100 in the last 6 months and prefer 121 or advanced aircraft experience or training according to a flyer that they passed out to pilots.

SLC: Unless there's huge growth there, forget about it as a newhire.

Also not true. If you want to bid to CRJ700 you can possibly hold SLC pretty quick. The 700 is actually the junior airplane due to the schedules. SLC is a 700 base only right now.
 
Baronman said:
A friend of mine at ASA was telling me how a guy with 3200hrs (went through the Flight Safety Program) was pissed because he got assigned the ATR, mind you he's 23 yrs old!

Man, I'd hate to have a job flying an ATR. :rolleyes:
 
Baronman said:
A friend of mine at ASA was telling me how a guy with 320hrs (went through the Flight Safety Program) was pissed because he got assigned the ATR, mind you he's 23 yrs old!

The ATR training department is stuffed full of top notch guys.

Like Rumple stated, other people out there would love to have that opportunity.
 
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