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I agree with those statements UAL-GSO!! It "funny" (in a sad way) to read these LCC pilots criticizing the hourly rates, work rules, retirement, etc., of ANY legacy carrier. It wasn't too long ago that we had an industry leading contract yet we didn't see ANY Airtran, Frontier, JetBlue, etc., pilots doing ANYTHING to come up and meet that bar. In fact, they used their extremely low, total compensation packages to help subsidize their growth and undercut our fares. It's kind of hard to maintain $240/hr. Airbus Captains with awesome work rules and a high 5 figure pension upon retirement when you have pilots at the competition (including Lear's airline none the less) willing to do the job for $120/hour (or less in JetBlue's case when they first started up), FAR work rules, and no pension.
And now we have an Airtran pilot, a member of a pilot group that MASSIVELY undercut DAL pilot scales to help subdize their growth in ATL, telling us legacy guys we need to do something about our payscales after the damage of such behavior has already been done to legacy pay scales, work rules, and retirement? Sorry man, you're way late to the dance. You should have been preaching that 6 years ago.
I agree with those statements UAL-GSO!! It "funny" (in a sad way) to read these LCC pilots criticizing the hourly rates, work rules, retirement, etc., of ANY legacy carrier. It wasn't too long ago that we had an industry leading contract yet we didn't see ANY Airtran, Frontier, JetBlue, etc., pilots doing ANYTHING to come up and meet that bar. In fact, they used their extremely low, total compensation packages to help subsidize their growth and undercut our fares. It's kind of hard to maintain $240/hr. Airbus Captains with awesome work rules and a high 5 figure pension upon retirement when you have pilots at the competition (including Lear's airline none the less) willing to do the job for $120/hour (or less in JetBlue's case when they first started up), FAR work rules, and no pension.
And now we have an Airtran pilot, a member of a pilot group that MASSIVELY undercut DAL pilot scales to help subdize their growth in ATL, telling us legacy guys we need to do something about our payscales after the damage of such behavior has already been done to legacy pay scales, work rules, and retirement? Sorry man, you're way late to the dance. You should have been preaching that 6 years ago.
Does anyone have the instructions (or better yet a link) for UA employees to write a rec on behalf of an applicant? I saw them when I filled out the app but can't seem to find them now.
I was a 29-year old 727 Captain at a shady 121 Cargo airline 6 years ago... wasn't here then to protest, but I understand the general gist of what you're saying...And now we have an Airtran pilot, a member of a pilot group that MASSIVELY undercut DAL pilot scales to help subdize their growth in ATL, telling us legacy guys we need to do something about our payscales after the damage of such behavior has already been done to legacy pay scales, work rules, and retirement? Sorry man, you're way late to the dance. You should have been preaching that 6 years ago.
I got a psych test but no phone call (yet). 6000TT, 2000 turbine PIC, three types (one heavy jet, one corp jet one turboprop) and a degree.Could the guys and gals that are getting the Psych Test and Phone calls could please post their general experience levels and wether or not they had internal recs? Thanks!