America West pilots to the pokey

[Ty Webb]

And people incable of rational thought (i.e., not knowing to put the bottle down before flying) have no business in the cockpit. Maybe jail will sober these guys up and send a message to others who are contemplating doing the same.

Sheesh. OK, Clyde, let's hear your story . . . I know you're dying to tell it. When did you hit "rock bottom" and when did you find Jesus? We're all waiting.

 

[castle bravo]

I had no problem pressing 400 this am ... so if you'd like to puff your scrawny chest out, I won't feel bad about teaching you some manners.

BBB[/QUOTE]


Sounds like you have been hanging around Jason Giambi and Barry Bonds a little too much lately.

 

[Clyde]

Sheesh. OK, Clyde, let's hear your story . . . I know you're dying to tell it. When did you hit "rock bottom" and when did you find Jesus? We're all waiting.

I hit "rock bottom" when AirTran turned me down and I ended up getting a job with a real airline.

 

[Clyde]

I've seen plenty of professional pilot not doing Checklist, What should we do to them???

August 16, 1987.
Northwest Airlines flight 255
MD-82

Aircraft crashed on takeoff from DTW killing 149 people. Flaps and slats were NOT extended.

CVR data shows that the After-start, Taxi, and Before Take-off checklists WERE NOT completed nor called for. Had the checklists have been called for, they would have reminded the crew to extend the flaps and slats.

Most who omit checklists usually end up taking care of themselves AND others. Think about that next time you observe "plenty of professional" pilots not doing checklistls.

 

[Big Beer Belly]

Ok Mr. Big Beefy, you go ahead and keep being beefy

Mr. Big Beefy ... LOL! ... I like it.

Your two drunk buddies you keep crying for are gunna experience someone else's "Mr. Big Beefy" (DOH!) soon enough!! LOL!!!!

 

[FN FAL]

Mr. Big Beefy ... LOL! ... I like it.

Your two drunk buddies you keep crying for are gunna experience someone else's "Mr. Big Beefy" (DOH!) soon enough!! LOL!!!!

400 is pretty good...don't sweat these guys, they never met anyone that could bench three regional FO's before.

 

[semperfido]

August 16, 1987.
Northwest Airlines flight 255
MD-82

Aircraft crashed on takeoff from DTW killing 149 people. Flaps and slats were NOT extended.

CVR data shows that the After-start, Taxi, and Before Take-off checklists WERE NOT completed nor called for. Had the checklists have been called for, they would have reminded the crew to extend the flaps and slats.

Most who omit checklists usually end up taking care of themselves AND others. Think about that next time you observe "plenty of professional" pilots not doing checklistls.

...i think a contributing factor was the T/O warning system for flaps was inop. Had that system worked the accident most probably wouldn't have ocurred. Obviously, pro pilots should do the checklists.

 

[Ty Webb]

400 is pretty good...don't sweat these guys, they never met anyone that could bench three regional FO's before.

Maybe you two should get together and shave each other's backs.

My personal theory is that once you get past a certain size, you don't look good to females anymore . . . it becomes a turn-off to them. The only people that are attracted to plateheads are other plate-heads, and that's just a little too gay for me.

 

[Big Beer Belly]

The only people that are attracted to plateheads are other plate-heads, and that's just a little too gay for me.

Now settle down my scrawny little friend (lol) ... you've had your sensitive feelings hurt again. What's really gay is some pencil-neck whining for days because a Cessna cut him off on a taxiway ... LOL!! Oh man ... now I've done it ... you're gunna tell us (AGAIN!) how mean and dangerous that was and how a lesser aviator wouldn't have been able to handle such an evasive ground maneuver! We'll all be subjected to hearing the harrowing account (AGAIN!) of how you depressed the brake pedals to slow your taxi speed ... LOL!

BBB

 

[Ty Webb]

If that's the best you can do, you really are a ball-waxin', pillow-bitin' Nancy-Boy.

Don't you have a pack of 'boros to crush in some niece's pocket somewhere?

 

[Big Beer Belly]

If that's the best you can do, you really are a ball-waxin', pillow-bitin' Nancy-Boy.

Don't you have a pack of 'boros to crush in some niece's pocket somewhere?

Now Ty ... this is about the tenth time in as many posts that you have made an explicit reference to homosexuality (not that there's anything wrong with that!) I'm sure you'll find your Airtran family just as accommodating to your preference as they've shown for the numerous SCABS they employ.

 

[G4G5]

...i think a contributing factor was the T/O warning system for flaps was inop. Had that system worked the accident most probably wouldn't have ocurred. Obviously, pro pilots should do the checklists.

I believe that the CB's were pulled, that's why the syst was disabled.

Going deep into the memory banks, form what I was told the over speed horn was tied into the T/O warning horn. Pulling the CB's disabled both systems. Maybe someone with a little more DC9 time can verify this.

 

[semperfido]

I believe that the CB's were pulled, that's why the syst was disabled.

Going deep into the memory banks, form what I was told the over speed horn was tied into the T/O warning horn. Pulling the CB's disabled both systems. Maybe someone with a little more DC9 time can verify this.

from the ntsb summary,


The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable
cause of the accident was the flightcrew's failure to use the taxi
checklist to ensure that the flaps and slats were extended for takeoff.
Contributing to the accident was the absence of electrical power to the
airplane takeoff warning system which thus did not warn the flightcrew
that the airplane was not configured properly for takeoff. The reason
for the absence of electrical power could not be determined.

 

[G4G5]

"The reason for the absence of electrical power could not be determined."

That's because the crew on the prior leg denied ever pulling the overspeed warning horn CB. Since the NTSB could not track down which leg the CB was pulled, or who pulled it, they could not determine the reason for the absence of elect power.

Or at least that's what I was told.

 

[Clyde]

Maybe you two should get together and shave each other's backs.

My personal theory is that once you get past a certain size, you don't look good to females anymore . . . it becomes a turn-off to them. The only people that are attracted to plateheads are other plate-heads, and that's just a little too gay for me.

Personal theory? Hmmmm. My personal theory is that you just spend a lot of time thinking about men. How do you know what turns-on women? Did you hear this on Oprah? Read it in Glamour? What is that certain size Ty, you failed to mention that. (I'm guessing anyone bigger than you fits into that "certain size")

My wife would disagree with you on your "personal theory". Now given, I can only bench 205 and I weigh 185# at 5'8". But, my wife likes that I'm a lot bigger than the average guy for my height. She (and a lot of her girlfriends) don't like the skinny-stick dudes, which sounds like the category you fit into.

Don't worry Ty. One of these days you might be able to bench maybe half of your weight.