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Big Beer Belly said:
Another drunk ... oh great. Put the bottle down and push your fingers away from the keyboard big fella. I had no problem pressing 400 this am ... so if you'd like to puff your scrawny chest out, I won't feel bad about teaching you some manners.

BBB

My God dude, you have to be the biggest dork in the world!! Ok Mr. Big Beefy, you go ahead and keep being beefy and all tough guy, and the rest of us will cower when we see your big beefyness coming down the concorse. Dork. I have a ROC overnight tonight. You are more than welcome come to the hotel and beat me up. Dork. LMAO!!!! At you!!! Not with you.
 
RDG said:
Ya see Clyde? You just did it again. Trying to apply what a rational human being would do to a person who is incapable of rational thought. You will never get it.

And people incable of rational thought (i.e., not knowing to put the bottle down before flying) have no business in the cockpit. Maybe jail will sober these guys up and send a message to others who are contemplating doing the same.
 
RDG said:
My God dude, you have to be the biggest dork in the world!! Ok Mr. Big Beefy, you go ahead and keep being beefy and all tough guy, and the rest of us will cower when we see your big beefyness coming down the concorse. Dork. I have a ROC overnight tonight. You are more than welcome come to the hotel and beat me up. Dork. LMAO!!!! At you!!! Not with you.

RDG's profile:

24 yrs old.
American Idol haircut.
Likes to tell "the chicks" he flies for the mainline he is actually feeding for.
i.e., leaves out the word "express", "connection", whatever.
Drives around town with his hat in the back window of his car.
Can't bench press even half of his weight.
Still has to sound out the big words when he reads.
Envies Big Beer Belly.
Has a habit of getting himself beat-up. (usually by freight dawgs)

RDG, you really need to chill out. Now, put the binkie back in your mouth and be quiet. Someone will be in shortly to change your diaper.
 
Clyde said:
And people incable of rational thought (i.e., not knowing to put the bottle down before flying) have no business in the cockpit. Maybe jail will sober these guys up and send a message to others who are contemplating doing the same.

Clyde, Clyde, Clyde. Leaving your attempt at humor behind, lets focus on this "send a message" crap.

Insanity, doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results. Northwest pilot to jail. Do incidents of drunken pilots stop? Nope. Still happens. And it will happen again. Count on it. If losing your career, your income, probably most everything you own isn't enough of a "message", what makes you think jail would be? It already has a track record of being a miserable failure at "sending a message". If it worked, there would be no repeat offenders in prison. But the fact is, most prisoners have been there, done that, usually more than once. Jesus Clyde, its like you hear that stupid line in some political speach and actually believe it, even though all evidence is to the contrary.

A high school teacher once told me that if the hangover came first, almost no one would drink. But the fact is, most people do not contemplate the consequences of their actions, unless the consequences are staring them in the face, right now. As a small example, tell me, if you were late for your show, driving to the airport, would you cruise through a "yellowish" light? Do you think you still would if a Cop was right behind you?

These guys lives are ruined. Jail is overkill, and a waste of my $$.
 
Clyde said:
And people incable of rational thought (i.e., not knowing to put the bottle down before flying) have no business in the cockpit. Maybe jail will sober these guys up and send a message to others who are contemplating doing the same.

Sheesh. OK, Clyde, let's hear your story . . . I know you're dying to tell it. When did you hit "rock bottom" and when did you find Jesus? We're all waiting.
 
I had no problem pressing 400 this am ... so if you'd like to puff your scrawny chest out, I won't feel bad about teaching you some manners.

BBB[/QUOTE]


Sounds like you have been hanging around Jason Giambi and Barry Bonds a little too much lately.
 
Ty Webb said:
Sheesh. OK, Clyde, let's hear your story . . . I know you're dying to tell it. When did you hit "rock bottom" and when did you find Jesus? We're all waiting.

I hit "rock bottom" when AirTran turned me down and I ended up getting a job with a real airline.
 
olympus593 said:
I've seen plenty of professional pilot not doing Checklist, What should we do to them???

August 16, 1987.
Northwest Airlines flight 255
MD-82

Aircraft crashed on takeoff from DTW killing 149 people. Flaps and slats were NOT extended.

CVR data shows that the After-start, Taxi, and Before Take-off checklists WERE NOT completed nor called for. Had the checklists have been called for, they would have reminded the crew to extend the flaps and slats.

Most who omit checklists usually end up taking care of themselves AND others. Think about that next time you observe "plenty of professional" pilots not doing checklistls.
 
RDG said:
Ok Mr. Big Beefy, you go ahead and keep being beefy

Mr. Big Beefy ... LOL! ... I like it.

Your two drunk buddies you keep crying for are gunna experience someone else's "Mr. Big Beefy" (DOH!) soon enough!! LOL!!!!

:eek:
 
Big Beer Belly said:
Mr. Big Beefy ... LOL! ... I like it.

Your two drunk buddies you keep crying for are gunna experience someone else's "Mr. Big Beefy" (DOH!) soon enough!! LOL!!!!

:eek:
400 is pretty good...don't sweat these guys, they never met anyone that could bench three regional FO's before.
 
Clyde said:
August 16, 1987.
Northwest Airlines flight 255
MD-82

Aircraft crashed on takeoff from DTW killing 149 people. Flaps and slats were NOT extended.

CVR data shows that the After-start, Taxi, and Before Take-off checklists WERE NOT completed nor called for. Had the checklists have been called for, they would have reminded the crew to extend the flaps and slats.

Most who omit checklists usually end up taking care of themselves AND others. Think about that next time you observe "plenty of professional" pilots not doing checklistls.

...i think a contributing factor was the T/O warning system for flaps was inop. Had that system worked the accident most probably wouldn't have ocurred. Obviously, pro pilots should do the checklists.
 
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FN FAL said:
400 is pretty good...don't sweat these guys, they never met anyone that could bench three regional FO's before.

Maybe you two should get together and shave each other's backs.

My personal theory is that once you get past a certain size, you don't look good to females anymore . . . it becomes a turn-off to them. The only people that are attracted to plateheads are other plate-heads, and that's just a little too gay for me.
 
Ty Webb said:
The only people that are attracted to plateheads are other plate-heads, and that's just a little too gay for me.


Now settle down my scrawny little friend (lol) ... you've had your sensitive feelings hurt again. What's really gay is some pencil-neck whining for days because a Cessna cut him off on a taxiway ... LOL!! Oh man ... now I've done it ... you're gunna tell us (AGAIN!) how mean and dangerous that was and how a lesser aviator wouldn't have been able to handle such an evasive ground maneuver! We'll all be subjected to hearing the harrowing account (AGAIN!) of how you depressed the brake pedals to slow your taxi speed ... LOL!

BBB
 
If that's the best you can do, you really are a ball-waxin', pillow-bitin' Nancy-Boy.

Don't you have a pack of 'boros to crush in some niece's pocket somewhere?
 
Ty Webb said:
If that's the best you can do, you really are a ball-waxin', pillow-bitin' Nancy-Boy.

Don't you have a pack of 'boros to crush in some niece's pocket somewhere?


Now Ty ... this is about the tenth time in as many posts that you have made an explicit reference to homosexuality (not that there's anything wrong with that!) I'm sure you'll find your Airtran family just as accommodating to your preference as they've shown for the numerous SCABS they employ. :D
 
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semperfido said:
...i think a contributing factor was the T/O warning system for flaps was inop. Had that system worked the accident most probably wouldn't have ocurred. Obviously, pro pilots should do the checklists.

I believe that the CB's were pulled, that's why the syst was disabled.

Going deep into the memory banks, form what I was told the over speed horn was tied into the T/O warning horn. Pulling the CB's disabled both systems. Maybe someone with a little more DC9 time can verify this.
 
G4G5 said:
I believe that the CB's were pulled, that's why the syst was disabled.

Going deep into the memory banks, form what I was told the over speed horn was tied into the T/O warning horn. Pulling the CB's disabled both systems. Maybe someone with a little more DC9 time can verify this.

from the ntsb summary,


The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable
cause of the accident was the flightcrew's failure to use the taxi
checklist to ensure that the flaps and slats were extended for takeoff.
Contributing to the accident was the absence of electrical power to the
airplane takeoff warning system which thus did not warn the flightcrew
that the airplane was not configured properly for takeoff. The reason
for the absence of electrical power could not be determined.

 
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"The reason for the absence of electrical power could not be determined."

That's because the crew on the prior leg denied ever pulling the overspeed warning horn CB. Since the NTSB could not track down which leg the CB was pulled, or who pulled it, they could not determine the reason for the absence of elect power.

Or at least that's what I was told.
 
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Ty Webb said:
Maybe you two should get together and shave each other's backs.

My personal theory is that once you get past a certain size, you don't look good to females anymore . . . it becomes a turn-off to them. The only people that are attracted to plateheads are other plate-heads, and that's just a little too gay for me.

Personal theory? Hmmmm. My personal theory is that you just spend a lot of time thinking about men. How do you know what turns-on women? Did you hear this on Oprah? Read it in Glamour? What is that certain size Ty, you failed to mention that. (I'm guessing anyone bigger than you fits into that "certain size")

My wife would disagree with you on your "personal theory". Now given, I can only bench 205 and I weigh 185# at 5'8". But, my wife likes that I'm a lot bigger than the average guy for my height. She (and a lot of her girlfriends) don't like the skinny-stick dudes, which sounds like the category you fit into.

Don't worry Ty. One of these days you might be able to bench maybe half of your weight.
 

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