Air France Flight Missing

[Fly91]

A fire in flight would lead to bus failure and depressurization very quickly.

Its pretty obvious that a fire will LEAD to bus failure. It will also LEAD to the person sitting in row 40 to get his feet burned.

If there's a fire onboard a plane, warning systems almost immediately detect it and warn the crew. The crew would have plenty of time to make MANY radio calls. Just like ValueJet in the Everglades did, and that thing turned into a roman candle at 11,000 feet in 1 minute.

Unless you want to throw into the mix that a flame-thrower behind the captains seat accidentally went off in the cabin. Then I'll go along that the bus failed from the fire........... lol

 

[Monster Buck]

Lightning damages electrical equipment...heavy turbulence damages airframes.

Heavy thunderstorms produce both.

They had electrical problems and loss of cabin pressure.

Two pilots made horrible decisions to fly into HEAVY thunderstorms.

Chaulk another crash up to "pilot error." We're never gonna reverse this damn trend.

Feel bad for all those people that died because of a stupid decision.

I have had idiots like you in the sim. Mr quick to take in what they can quickly, with limited info and make that snap decision when you didn't need to rush to judgment. The same a-hole that grabs the wrong handle because they are in a rush to judge the cause. The worst kind of pilot out there. And here you are doing the same thing about an accident that you heard about in the news with.....drumrole.....exptremely limited info.
Nice job LEROY!

 

[StaySeated]

Both Air France Maintenance Control (or whatever they call their version) and Airbus receive continuous data from every operating aircraft. They may never find the CVR or FDR, but they already have an insane amount of data. In fact, mx control receives aircraft malfunctions that do not appear as an ECAM or warnings to the flight crew. I have experienced this personally on more than one occastion. Big Brother is always watching when you fly the 'bus.

 

[Fly91]

How can you be so sure of the cause there Fly91? I heard on the news on the way in to work about 8 hours after the disappearance that the authorities have ruled out sabotage already-and they still haven't found the plane! So many conclusions without even a bit of the aircraft found.

Not one radio call from 35,000 feet all the way down. Electrical issues and a loss of cabin pressure. Well, lets see.....what causes electrical issues IN A THUNDERSTORM? What causes loss of cabin pressure when IN A THUNDERSTORM with reported SEVERE TURBULENCE?

Lightning and a breach in the fuselage somewhere.

If they lost both engines and had to ditch in the dark they would have been better off....rather than have electrical issues on a fly-by-wire aircraft and loss of cabin pressure in heavy turbulence. At least they would have been able to talk on the radio all the way down.

No radio calls from a plane that crashes, 99% of the time means something VERY BAD and/or SUDDEN happened. Pretty simple. Does it really take an experienced accident investigator to figure that out? NO.

And like I said yesterday.....today they will find a debris field....and they did.

That plane came apart. There's all kinds of crap floating around.

Doesn't mean the beginning wasn't from massive hail, or a friggin meteor even. Maybe a mid air collision with a military aircraft. Maybe a flock of Condors were out for a stroll in a thunderstorm at 35,000 feet.

Whatever it was, it was catastrophic. What causes that...catastrophies.

And talk about jumping to conclusions....why would they rule out sabotage. What moron would rule that out this early?

 

[Fly91]

I have had idiots like you in the sim. Mr quick to take in what they can quickly, with limited info and make that snap decision when you didn't need to rush to judgment. The same a-hole that grabs the wrong handle because they are in a rush to judge the cause. The worst kind of pilot out there. And here you are doing the same thing about an accident that you heard about in the news with.....drumrole.....exptremely limited info.
Nice job LEROY!

And I've had wat too many azzholes in the sim like you who can't think for themselves and figure things out using common sense and logic. Very sad.

 

[Monster Buck]

You are one of the biggest idiots I have seen on here. In the first part of your last post you use bold print to show THE OBVIOUS CAUSE and by the end of the post "What moron would rule that out!" I know one.

 

[HA25]

You are nothing more than a Piece of TIHS!

I've had multiple people report this thread for being uncivil and containing language that is disallowed by the forum rules.

I know what Flyboyike said was out of line for this type of thread, but I have to remind you that foul language (even in disguise) is prohibited, however you are not going to be issued a warning because you're correct in admonishing him for his comment.. I am inches away however from giving flyboy a short term ban for a combination of reasons not the least of which is inappropriate language.

If I have to get involved in moderation here again, the thread will be closed, and the offender issued a citation.

 

[SennaP1]

I'm 34. And I wasn't at ORD today.

You deserve the airline you are flying for.

 

[OneBadLT123]

I wonder if we got anyone with some decent amount of A330 time here that could chime in? Just for discussion sake.

 

[Dornier 335]

Big Brother is always watching when you fly the 'bus.

More than that. It has become commen practice in Euroland. Even smaller airlines flying the E145 and Dash 8 have systems that either tell in real-time what you are doing or it'll be downloaded by the end of each day. It's called Flight Data Monitoring.