Air Force Academy Welfare Pilots

[pkober]

Pkober,

I certainly didn't mean any disrespect to the guard and reserve. I was enlisted in the reserve for 3 years. (My Dad was not a SWA captain) When I was an airline pilot, I was a reservist for 2 years also.

I'm just kidding around about the scam artist thing. There are plenty of war heros in the guard and reserve. In fact, probably more than the active duty.

Carpe Per Diem

None taken.

 

[Big Slick]

$83,000 + per month. Holy sh!t.

How many hours are flown (a/c + sim) during the year? Just curious how much that works out to per flight hour...

Just the year of pilot training costs over a million dollars. I know for a fact.

The military has to build a base. You have to have hangers, barracks, a dentists office, supply, security forces, etc. Then, you have to purchase a fleet of T-37s, T-6s, T-38s, T-1s, etc. A single T-1 (Beech Jet 400) costs about 4.5 million.

Next, you have to pay for maintenance, logisitics, fuel, etc. You have to train and equip hundreds of maintenance personnel and aircrews. If you assign 500 pilots to your pilot training base, your payroll is several million dollars. You have to buy a zillion pencils, overhead projectors, computers, etc.

When we say it costs a million bucks to train a military pilot, we are not just talking about the cost of books, jet fuel and flight suits. There is a lot of overhead at one of these operations.

When I was a T-38 student, they told us it cost the government about $10,000 per flight hour.

 

[Tids01]

There is no 5 year "early out" for AF pilots. It's either 8 or 10 minimum dependng on your year group. Secondly, your don't "bid" whatever airplane you want. It's assigned in large on a merit system which takes into account your desires.

Either a really bad egg, or just urban legend.

There is no free lunch.

 

[SWA/FO]

I am just stereotyping. Kind of like SWA F/U does

thanks dude, can someone take this knife out of my back!

Sorry to burst everyones bubble... The SWA/FO's DAD is a Construction Worker and his MOM is a Nurse.

The SWA/FO worked along side of his Father, for a masonry company before/during & after college. This is where he got his strong work ethic and muscles. The SWA/FO is one hansome fella.

 

[pilotyip]

All this time I thought you got your work ethic from working with me. I am disappointed.

 

[RedDogC130]

it's not a knife in your back it is something else stuck a little lower that needs to be pulled out

 

[mdf]

For crying out loud Bally!!!!

You take a dump in the room, and then leave....nice

 

[warbirdfinder]

TO BALLY:

You really are a low piece of scum.

Perhaps you would like to explain your views to the widow.

We are sad to announce that NYC based MD-88 First Officer Kevin Sonnenberg died while piloting his F-16 in Iraq during a close air support mission on June 15th. He is survived by his wife and stepson. Funeral arrangements are pending. In lieu of flowers, please send donations payable to the Kevin Sonnenberg Memorial Fund in care of: Lorin Sonnenberg, P459 County Road 3A, McClure, OH 43534

 

[HarryShadow]

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[HarryShadow]

Dam, looks like I'm a welfare pilot. After 13 years hard work to qualify for an appointment to the zoo, after 4 years of busting my butt there, after one year of hard work at UPT, another year at RTU, and 8 years of working and studying my a** off in AFSOC to be a good copilot, Aircraft commander, evaluator pilot, weapons school grad, IDE selectee, 500 hours of combat time and five deployments, I decided to get out and join the airlines. I'd like to thank the American taxpayer for funding my type ratings, experience, and hours. Man, I never saw that coming. Me! A welfare case! Thanks, America, and thank you too, Mr. Disgruntled Civilian Airline Pilot Guy!

Ditto brother...(it's been a while, I know)

 

[HarryShadow]

"Chump change" usless YOU have to pay for it yourself. You guys are hitting all the cherry spots that piss the SWA/FO off.

First off, respect is earned, I don't have to respect anyone. I make up my own mind. I don't care what club you're in.... There are a lot of Mil/Civ guys I respect. There are tons of Civ/Mil guys I admire. There are some I hate.

Don't cheapen my aviation experience cus, I didn't have uncle sam's blank check or get TDYed somewhere.

Dude, I'm embarrassed we work for the same company. It's easy to talk smack in some online chat room...but I doubt you have the b@lls to walk into your pilot lounge and flap your sewer the same way you flap it here!!!

It's easy not to "have to respect anyone" when no one obviously respects you!!!

 

[SWA/FO]

Dude your a tool. If you have nothing to say....shut the F6ck up...We get it your superb civilian experience got you to SWA....good on you. but quit the mil bashing....it is getting old...your experience is like mine before I got into the military..... You look like an a$$. I would love to meet you. You are probably an AM'er...right....spot on. Get a life dude.

I didn't see this before................ My personality got me hired on the first try at Southwest Airlines. I am a hansome dude. You can come see me anytime, I'm based in MDW...fly Tue, Wed & Thu. Maybe we can buddy bid.

I actually said something nice about the Mil guys in this thread, guess you can't read? :crying: But who cares what the SWA/FO thinks anyway? - I guess you do, which makes me laugh. :laugh:

 

[SWA/FO]

Dude, I'm embarrassed we work for the same company. It's easy to talk smack in some online chat room...but I doubt you have the b@lls to walk into your pilot lounge and flap your sewer the same way you flap it here!!!

It's easy not to "have to respect anyone" when no one obviously respects you!!!

I guess none of you mil types can read? let me highlight it for you:

There are a lot of Mil/Civ guys I respect. There are tons of Civ/Mil guys I admire.

I can't believe you guy are so stupid.

 

[HarryShadow]

I guess none of you mil types can read? let me highlight it for you:

There are a lot of Mil/Civ guys I respect. There are tons of Civ/Mil guys I admire.

I can't believe you guy are so stupid.

Hiding behind a few "nice" comments about military flyers doesn't change your true colors/beliefs that you commonly share on this thread.

It's like me saying that you are acutally a good representative for our company...no one would believe me!!!

 

[SWA/FO]

It's like me saying that you are acutally a good representative for our company...no one would believe me!!!

but some would.

Remember the SWA/FO does not make policy, is not runnning for political office, is not in management, is not a check airman and is not involved in the hiring process at SWA. So I guess, you chumps are safe.

Correction to the post above: You can come see the SWA/FO anytime, He is based in MDW...he flies Tue, Wed & Thu. Maybe you two can buddy bid once you get off probation.

* highlighted for effect.