Air Force Academy Welfare Pilots

[Buckeye]

Early Out = Palace Chase, Commitment was 6 years in the early 90's then 8 years, then 10 years. My friends in AFROTC have incurred both the 8 and 10.

 

[DLax85]

Wait....stop....it's very tempting, but just not gonna do it.

Once again, my sincerest "thank you" and "respect" to any/all who served honorably during their lives.

...my regrets to any pure civilian that doesn't understand they should do the same.

Aloha

 

[BMD]

I suspect Bally is really Dave Griffin's alter ego. Perhaps it's the one in drag. Loser.

 

[MsFan]

Don't hate the player, hate the game . . .

 

[RedDogC130]

I guess I am the real idiot. I paid....o wait daddy paid... big bucks to go to a flight school in FL....just to go into the AF 5 years later and do it all again...or I should say real AF...go GUARD!!!! I have landed more times in Iraq/Afstanistan...more times than I have landed at my local airport. Flying tankers takes a person without ADD like me. I could not sit there for 8-10 hours. They fill the guys/gals who are protecting me as I bring the real fighters...the men and women on the ground.....into these strange places. So they are protecting me. Thank you. Being an airline pilot was my number one goal for me since I did not wear dipers...no offense fighter guys. Guess you don't want to fly with me then. What is your employee number. I will put you on my avoidance list then and do you a favor. I guess I am as bad as your FO for getting my ticket punched on your tax dollar.....wait...wait...I pay taxes to...how wierd...I guess I was paying myself to go though AF flight school. I think of getting out of the Guard....but when I hear an a$$ like you....nevermind it is not worth it....good night

 

[BLUE BAYOU]

Yeah, and I'm sure this guy got to go home on his Thanksgiving, Christmas, Spring, and Summer breaks and didn't miss his brother's wedding either... Thank you to all who humbly served and sacrificed...

 

[Diesel-9]

This post deserved no response.

 

[SWA/FO]

sucking off the Government nipple

Serving his Country and defending your freedom is what its called!! Your lucky he did it or else you might be speaking German.................... oh, I mean,........ Iraqi right now. :crying:

 

[Oh-ryan]

Shouldn't this been in the "Regionals" forum?

 

[Big Slick]

Oh my God, I agree with something the SWA F/U posted. Never thought that would happen. Did hell just freeze over?

 

[Murphy]

Oh my God, I agree with something the SWA F/U posted. Never thought that would happen. Did hell just freeze over?

he must have forgot to logoff

 

[Diesel-9]

We better be thankful we still get people to serve when the media, hollywood and the libs bash everything without having a clue what all is involved. There are many reasons we are in Iraq. Most can't comprehend everything involved here. Iran is going for the Nukes ASAP and are about ready to GO FOR IT! in the region and control the oil and drive prices up probably $100-$200 or more to hit us hard. It ain't going to be pretty sooner than later most likely and this industry/profession will suffer most.

 

[Scrapdog]

Oh my God, I agree with something the SWA F/U posted. Never thought that would happen. Did hell just freeze over?

LOL!!!!!! Dude, I was thinking the exact same thing. This from a guy that constantly craps on military pilots at SWA and called me a VFR only F-teen pilot (note my signature - which I still believe is classic)...of course he has no clue that we take instrument checkrides in fighters every year and shoot multiple instrument approaches down to mins, usually in a 2 or 4 ship radar trail formation.

But hey, maybe old SWA/FU realized there is actually something else in aviation besides being an F/O at southwest airlines and reading the Wall Street Journal on a transcon. If so, good on him...SWA/FO welcome to that wonderful thing called sanity.

 

[capt. megadeth]

My only problem with fighter pilots is that one time in Springfield....

We were on approach behind an F16 and the pr!ck rolled it to the end
S-L-O-W-L-Y knowing full well we were behind him which caused us to have to go around.

Oh yeah, and the time I was an FE and the ex-fighter guy FO was freaking out about flying within 50 miles of a thunderstorm line.



That's it....other than that I completely respect anyone that has the guts to serve.

P.S. For anyone that can't see the fact that I am joking around.....I am.

 

[crashpad]

Sounds like smart career decisions to me. BTW, you don't get into the AFA with a winning smile or hot body like you do at the majors...this guy had a lot going for him and has earned your respect.

 

[Scrapdog]

My only problem with fighter pilots is that one time in Springfield....

We were on approach behind an F16 and the pr!ck rolled it to the end
S-L-O-W-L-Y knowing full well we were behind him which caused us to have to go around.

Oh yeah, and the time I was an FE and the ex-fighter guy FO was freaking out about flying within 50 miles of a thunderstorm line.



That's it....other than that I completely respect anyone that has the guts to serve.

P.S. For anyone that can't see the fact that I am joking around.....I am.

BTW Capt Megadeth, I'm still waiting for your retort on the regional forum from my post on the Lanyard Police thread...anxiously awaiting.

P.S. I know you secretly have the hots for us fighter guys deep down...it's so obvious. Please hold yourself back ok? :nuts:

 

[SWA/FO]

BTW, you don't get into the AFA with a winning smile or hot body like you do at the majors...this guy had a lot going for him and has earned your respect.

You talk'in about the SWA/FO, right?

 

[big_al]

while I am thankful to the people who served, we really shouldn't be calling it "defending your freedom" especially with the big war going on right now...

 

[DLax85]

while I am thankful to the people who served, we really shouldn't be calling it "defending your freedom" especially with the big war going on right now...

?????????????

 

[Big Slick]

So, back in the day I'm a Tweet instructor pilot. About 4 years later I get out and go to work at one of the "Big Three." (Pre 9/11) Anyway, one of my students is in the same class.

When I taught this guy how to fly the mighty T-37, he had about 40 hours in a Cessna 152. After pilot training, he became a C-5 co-pilot at an Air Guard unit. He was young and single, so he signed up for every trip that came down. He flew back and forth to the desert A LOT and upgraded to aircraft commander in about 1.5 years.

He kept this pace up for another couple of years and got about 1000 hours PIC in the C-5. Anyhow, he went from a 40 hour Cessna 152 pilot to an FO at a legacy airline in about 4 years total. He was about 26 when he got hired.

If you are going to slam someone, don't slam the academy guys. They go to the zoo for 4 years. Then have one year of flight school followed by 10 years of active duty. That is not exactly "scamming the system."

BTW, an education at the Air Force Academy costs the government about $250,000. Paying for a civilian college or a 737 type rating is chump change to Uncle Sam. A year of military pilot training costs well over a million dollars.

The guard and reserve guys are the real scam artists. Good on 'em!

 

[big_al]

?????????????

why ????

its quite simple. how are you defending freedom in the current situation in Iraq? This isn't WWII, that was the last time we literally defended freedom

 

[pilotyip]

Freedom was defended in Korea, Vietnam, and the Gulf I. In the big picture to preserve your right to be almost anything you want to be, do what you want to do, and live under the constitution of the United States of America these battles were fought. To do that millions of citizens raised their right hands and “swore to defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic, so help me God”. 1,000’s lost their lives in these conflicts. We won the cold war, the Soviets quit, and the Korea and Vietnam were hot points in that long struggle. The Gulf I was to preserve our right to burn Jet A in airplanes and pursue our careers.

 

[Benhuntn]

I guess unless they are shooting in your backyard they aren't defending you-Big Al. If you think you can find a better defense system somewhere else move there and send me a post card.

 

[Phaedrus]

while I am thankful to the people who served, we really shouldn't be calling it "defending your freedom" especially with the big war going on right now...

Thank you Ms. Sarandon.
Sincerely,
Alec Baldwin
F.A.G.

 

[Wingsweep]

No lie big enough, no failed logic too small in pursuit of liberalism

I guess unless they are shooting in your backyard they aren't defending you-Big Al. If you think you can find a better defense system somewhere else move there and send me a post card.

Hat's off to you Ben for your quiet restraint. All I can think of to tell them is, "KMAYWKAH's." Anyway, except for ending slavery, Fascism, Nazism, and Communism, war never solved a thing...

 

[SWA/FO]

BTW, an education at the Air Force Academy costs the government about $250,000. Paying for a civilian college or a 737 type rating is chump change to Uncle Sam. A year of military pilot training costs well over a million dollars.

"Chump change" usless YOU have to pay for it yourself. You guys are hitting all the cherry spots that piss the SWA/FO off.

First off, respect is earned, I don't have to respect anyone. I make up my own mind. I don't care what club you're in.... There are a lot of Mil/Civ guys I respect. There are tons of Civ/Mil guys I admire. There are some I hate.

Don't cheapen my aviation experience cus, I didn't have uncle sam's blank check or get TDYed somewhere.

 

[rickair7777]

. To top it off, he then got 90% of his Type Rating paid for by the US taxpayer since he was a veteran. Seems to me that the taxpayer donated about about two million dollars to his endevor to become an airline pilot.


Academy grads are not eligible to have GI Bill pay any portion of the type rating. If you want to stir the pot, at least get your facts correct.

Not 100% true. If, and only if, you get an early out for reasons that benefit the government (not misconduct), academy grads get full GI Bill eligibility...but you have to pony up the lump-sum equivalent of the GI Bill monthly contributions when you get out.

Also as was mentioned, prior enlisted or post-active duty reserve service can qualify for the GI Bill.

 

[rickair7777]

He served,end of story

Yeah, he did. If the governemnt let him get off easy in the end, not really his fault.

 

[DLax85]

Thank you Ms. Sarandon.
Sincerely,
Alec Baldwin
F.A.G.

Spot on!

Dirka, Dirka....jihad, jihad!

 

[RedDogC130]

"Chump change" usless YOU have to pay for it yourself. You guys are hitting all the cherry spots that piss the SWA/FO off.

First off, respect is earned, I don't have to respect anyone. I make up my own mind. I don't care what club you're in.... There are a lot of Mil/Civ guys I respect. There are tons of Civ/Mil guys I admire. There are some I hate.

Don't cheapen my aviation experience cus, I didn't have uncle sam's blank check or get TDYed somewhere.

Dude your a tool. If you have nothing to say....shut the F6ck up...We get it your superb civilian experience got you to SWA....good on you. but quit the mil bashing....it is getting old...your experience is like mine before I got into the military..... You look like an a$$. I would love to meet you. You are probably an AM'er...right....spot on. Get a life dude.