AAI to SWA Training Schedule

[madjack]

Hey dumba$$, we all know what mgmt wants, the public negotiating is the new twist...

 

[Daddy]

You guys are so funny. Management hands everyone here a big fat turd and all you can do is fight amongst yourselves while we are actively negotiating our contract. Even an idiot like VDV can be made go look like a genius when you do that. Why the hostility between each other? The company has pretty much dictated the game so far....we are powerless as individuals. Our company is making record profits and we have the worst retirement and reserve of the majors. Its contract time. FOCUS!

 

[Ty Webb]

You guys are so funny. Management hands everyone here a big fat turd and all you can do is fight amongst yourselves while we are actively negotiating our contract. Even an idiot like VDV can be made go look like a genius when you do that. Why the hostility between each other? The company has pretty much dictated the game so far....we are powerless as individuals. Our company is making record profits and we have the worst retirement and reserve of the majors. Its contract time. FOCUS!

Sorry, Man, but you don't insult me, threaten me, steal from me, lie to me and then ask me for my help. I traded 3.5 years of seniority and my seat for this great contract and pay rates, I should be satisfied, right?

SWAPA and this pilot group have a LONG way to go if they expect to get any solidarity out of many of us.

 

[Tripower455]

Sorry, Man, but you don't insult me, threaten me, steal from me, lie to me and then ask me for my help. I traded 3.5 years of seniority and my seat for this great contract and pay rates, I should be satisfied, right?

So, a bad contract would somehow make your lot in life better?

SWAPA and this pilot group have a LONG way to go if they expect to get any solidarity out of many of us.

That goes for the RSW guys too...... and it goes back WAY before the AT debacle was even a glimmer in GK's eyes.

 

[HowardBorden]

Sorry, Man, but you don't insult me, threaten me, steal from me, lie to me and then ask me for my help. I traded 3.5 years of seniority and my seat for this great contract and pay rates, I should be satisfied, right?

SWAPA and this pilot group have a LONG way to go if they expect to get any solidarity out of many of us.

That is the most ridiculous post I have read in a long time.

Like it or not you will be a part of SWAPA soon. If you want to attempt to screw everyone-including yourself and all FAT pilots-in order to show your discontent, then go right ahead and promote as much chaos as possible.

Grow up! It's over. I know that is hard to accept but you can't change the past.

Going forward any disunity you spread will adversely affect you as much as anyone else. If that's the road you feel you need to take to remedy the grievance offenses you were shouldered with than so be it.

The alternative would be to get involved and promote us all receiving an industry leading contract and improving your quality of life and compensation package instead of actively attempting to divide the group that you are now involved with and making your own life more miserable.

 

[Ty Webb]

Think what you want, Howie, but- newsflash- pilots are people, and people remember. You want solidarity? Should have thought of that before you took 3.5 YEARS of my seniority that I earned. You can argue semantics all you want, but it's all just chin music.

As for me . . . . I will show up, do my job well, as I always have, and go home. I don't owe any of you anything other than that.

 

[madjack]

QOL and pay is what counts...no one should have to take a big hit on either because their company was acquired....many SWA pilots understand...but there is not much sympathy for the AAI pilots because we all wanted to be at SWA...

 

[HowardBorden]

Think what you want, Howie, but- newsflash- pilots are people, and people remember. You want solidarity? Should have thought of that before you took 3.5 YEARS of my seniority that I earned. You can argue semantics all you want, but it's all just chin music.

As for me . . . . I will show up, do my job well, as I always have, and go home. I don't owe any of you anything other than that.

I really don't want anything but an industry leading contract, you should want the same. All the rest is "chin music." I agree you don't owe anyone anything, but the smart play is to improve your lot in life as much as possible, if you can't see that you are blinded by things that cannot be changed.

 

[Tripower455]

As for me . . . . I will show up, do my job well, as I always have, and go home. I don't owe any of you anything other than that.

You're a real SWA pilot then, since that's what the vast majority do. Will you also vote yes on every single thing that SWAPA puts forth, if you bother to vote at all?

 

[Citrusflyer]

You're a real SWA pilot then, since that's what the vast majority do. Will you also vote yes on every single thing that SWAPA puts forth, if you bother to vote at all?

Since my whole life seems to be promulgated off of Airtran 2001 rates, voting "no" will still be a raise. So, no, I wont be voting 'yes' just because SWAPA says to ...

 

[Tripower455]

Since my whole life seems to be promulgated off of Airtran 2001 rates, voting "no" will still be a raise. So, no, I wont be voting 'yes' just because SWAPA says to ...

GOOD!

Hopefully you'll bring 1699 more of you like this......

 

[humveedriver]

Think what you want, Howie, but- newsflash- pilots are people, and people remember. You want solidarity? Should have thought of that before you took 3.5 YEARS of my seniority that I earned. You can argue semantics all you want, but it's all just chin music.

As for me . . . . I will show up, do my job well, as I always have, and go home. I don't owe any of you anything other than that.

Unfortunately the SWA posters on FI didn't actually take your 3.5 years of seniority away. And BTW that number doesn't tell the story, your 30% seniority loss is what keeps you up at night. You will see very quickly when you transition over what has happened at SWA and what is currently happening. This anger will quickly dissipate as you realize that to a union and member the kool aid is all but gone. You will and should expect more than a bag tag from SWAPA and when the learn how to stick up for their pilots they will have our support. Advertising that your a former pissed off AT pilot sounds cool here. But doesn't translate well into reality. Otherwise you would quit, because you strike me as someone who enjoys the job and people, and just haven't ha the opportunity to move past the acquisition.

 

[Ty Webb]

Unfortunately the SWA posters on FI didn't actually take your 3.5 years of seniority away. And BTW that number doesn't tell the story, your 30% seniority loss is what keeps you up at night. You will see very quickly when you transition over what has happened at SWA and what is currently happening. This anger will quickly dissipate as you realize that to a union and member the kool aid is all but gone. You will and should expect more than a bag tag from SWAPA and when the learn how to stick up for their pilots they will have our support. Advertising that your a former pissed off AT pilot sounds cool here. But doesn't translate well into reality. Otherwise you would quit, because you strike me as someone who enjoys the job and people, and just haven't ha the opportunity to move past the acquisition.

Thanks, Man.

I'm usually OK with it, until some a@@hole who has never even walked a picket line once starts in with the "thank us for your pay rates" or some newly-upgraded toolbag like MJ forgets where that seat he is sitting in actually came from.

Other than that, I'm OK.

 

[FlyinGuy]

Ty, quit blaming the SWA pilots for your loss. No one on the SWA side cares about your upset cart when most of our fo's got jacked in this deal. Also, if your precious seat was so important, why did you give it away?

 

[Ty Webb]

Ty, quit blaming the SWA pilots for your loss. No one on the SWA side cares about your upset cart when most of our fo's got jacked in this deal. Also, if your precious seat was so important, why did you give it away?

That's like asking why you guys voted for it. Dumb question. Dumber still, if you think that I voted for it.