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[FlyinGuy]

Who cares what "you" did! You still have to live with what your group did, just like we do. I know you are not thrilled with what happened and I am sure I would feel the same way if I was in your shoes. Don't forget that you would be pissed if you were on our side. I guess that's why mergers/acquisitions suck. The best we can do is move forward and make our careers/contract the best we can because we each have a limited number of days to make the most we can for our families. That is where the common ground will be. We all have to move forward because I will bet GK's buying days are not over and we better have a stronger union next time because that fight will be more difficult. So kiss off!! And welcome aboard...

 

[waveflyer]

Sorry, Man, but you don't insult me, threaten me, steal from me, lie to me and then ask me for my help. I traded 3.5 years of seniority and my seat for this great contract and pay rates, I should be satisfied, right?

SWAPA and this pilot group have a LONG way to go if they expect to get any solidarity out of many of us.

You got a good deal because air tran was a good company

Grow up dude you miserable wreck-

You're an airline pilot- M&A's happen and everybody's fighting for what they can-

Babies hold onto grudges

At my seniority AT pilots lost less than 3 years- it took me 4 years to get in at SWA from the date I turned down air tran to stay at my regional-

There were a dozen of us at that air inc conference- we got interview offers without applying or showing any interest in the job- it's the way the market was- and if I didn't have business interests out west I'd have taken it-

And I would've been ahead if I had taken the job vs now- luck and timing are never not part of life

Get over it- it's really not a competition-
It's flat out impossible to be fair to everyone in this deal and that's all we have

 

[FlyinGuy]

I thought babies held on to t...oh never mind.

 

[waveflyer]

The rates on the day of purchase, where(sic).....irrelevant.

You know that's not true at all, but go on keeping on with that same tired line

Pilots make life choices and give up seniority ALL THE TIME for a pay rate
Change companies, change aircraft, upgrade- only an idiot thinks money isn't the primary driver for adult career decisions. It's a career. It's work. Flying isn't a hobby for me. It's what I do for money.

Stupidest argument ever

 

[madjack]

Cry Webb, "your" seat went to DL...unlike u I earned my place at SWA, and every raise you ever got or will get is because SWA bought you, get over you bitter a-hole....and once more genius you could have kept "your" seat in SL9, and with the SWA pay rates...

 

[HowardBorden]

That's like asking why you guys voted for it. Dumb question. Dumber still, if you think that I voted for it.

That's just it Ty, you disassociate yourself from having any culpability in what transpired then in the next breath say we (SWAPA pilots) are ultimately to blame for: stealing your seat, your seniority and your QOL. How is it, you the individual pilot is blameless , but we individuals perpetrated all this on you. Can you see the disconnect?

 

[scoreboardII]

Babies hold onto grudges

I plan to incorporate this into my lexicon, thank you.

 

[Mk3tm]

Yeah, they're getting kicked out of their captain seats, but they're being handed a "gold bar." Go f%^& yourself.

This from the guy who helped make sure those captain seats got pissed away when SWA and SWAPA were telling you they were available to hold onto until 2020 and according to ALPA would have held those slots even with the 717 sublease. That's your "own it" moment. Way to go. I'd quit too.

My $2 says those FAT guys who are sitting at home in 2015 will be collecting SWA FO pay. From what I hear, people who have crossed over get their badge on Day 1, and their position is "DAL FO". So, come 12/28 you'll be classified as a SWA FO.

 

[PCL_128]

This from the guy who helped make sure those captain seats got pissed away when SWA and SWAPA were telling you they were available to hold onto until 2020 and according to ALPA would have held those slots even with the 717 sublease. That's your "own it" moment. Way to go. I'd quit too.

If you had listened to me, no one would have lost a seat, and you probably wouldn't have lost more than 5-10% relative seniority. But you were too much of a coward to fight for what was yours, so "own it" yourself.

 

[redflyer65]

The rates on the day of purchase, where(sic).....irrelevant.

From the guy where the company was paying SW FO rates to their Captains and regional pay rates to the AirTran FO's.

I'm sure you'd like it to be irrelevant, but it isn't. It's very relevant. Pay, QOL and work rules are what each carrier brings to the table.

 

[Mk3tm]

We DID listen to you. When an ALPA executive vice president is the communications chairman, lots of people listen. After the status reps voted for it unanimously, ALPA told us to take this deal or you're likely to just wither away.

The people you're always calling "cowards" had a choice to make for their families, and it was a crappiest one thanks to you and your ALPA pals. You waited til you had let the best deal slip away.

I also remember while you were peddling your "don't worry, you'll get relative" nonsense, you were pretty vocal about how you didn't care cuz you'd just quit and go to DAL or UAL. When you're single and under 30, maybe that's a choice for you. A helluvalot of people didn't have that luxury.

 

[PCL_128]

Yeah, just keep it up spreading lies and shirking responsibility for the results of your own cowardice. Whatever makes you feel better.

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

Cry Webb, "your" seat went to DL...unlike u I earned my place at SWA, and every raise you ever got or will get is because SWA bought you, get over you bitter a-hole....and once more genius you could have kept "your" seat in SL9, and with the SWA pay rates...

Hey window licker, some of us never wanted a place at SWA and are now forced to accept it because we've got too much time invested that it makes more sense to stay than start over. BTW, every bankruptcy (and every lower pay scale prior) since 911 is a result of WN and the current situation we find ourselves in is a result of SWAPA. No thanks to you. Keep doing it cheaper and mgmt. will expect it. Time to pay the piper, please prove me wrong.

BTW, fewer and fewer believe anything in SL1 would have come to pass. There are more no voters now than actually voted on SL2. All the fo's I fly with say they voted no, it's not worth arguing about now except "I told you so".

 

[Mk3tm]

Haven't lied at all, son. Don't need to. Calling AT pilots cowards seems to make you feel better. Now that's rich.

 

[scarlet]

If you aren't in DAL by 12/31 and badged, you will be paid your current SWAPA position until you are crossed over, oh and yeah you can bid capt too.

Have a feeling Cpt is going to go Junior. Cause you going to be RESERVE for a long long time. Why Reserve needs to changing in the contract...dropping, trading, bucket list,